Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[robobobo]

I'll grant you the bread, we definitely don't have the whole European corner bakery thing going, which is a shame. I don't think it's so dire as saying the bread is all made out of styrofoam or anything, but it's mass-produced at central bakeries out of doubtless the cheapest-possible ingredients. For the meat... eh? I'm not sure that a steak out of a slaughterhouse forty miles away is fundamentally distinct from a steak lovingly massaged off of the cow by farmer Joe down the road. There are definitely better and worse meat products out there, but I've yet to see much evidence that a slaughterhouse worker is providing an inferior product to a butcher. For cheese I'll simply disagree. There are scores of cheeses at the grocery down the road from me, and I mean blocks and wheels of real cheese, not bags of shredded shit.

 

[Metabolic Melody]

I love this thread, hahah. I am having a fun time reading it.
*pours myself a shot of Frank's Red Hot sauce*

 

[DavidS877]

That's an exception and not the rule. I think Missouri's model of in-state steak is brand new, I remember hearing the news that MO was looking at implementing this into law around the time I first chimped out about USDA slaughterhouses.

I don't know that I'd call 29 states and 1900 plants an 'exception':

The program as a whole started somewhat before 1978, but that's the date of the current regulations.


Warning, evil US Government website: https://www.fsis.usda.gov/inspection/state-inspection-programs

Don't worry though, all your commercial eggs are still federally inspected.

 

[Lord Moopy]

See above. Whenever people correct me they indicate they live in a city of 30,000+ people that has pretentious organic stores offering what is the baseline level of standards expected in even former SFRY.

I grew up in the far north of Wisconsin, in a town of about 3000 people, just about 10min drive from a city of 10,000.

We had easy access to many fresh delicious cheeses from a specialty store just outside of that small city. There was a local grocery store that baked their own bread, and had a very nice deli department.

It was pretty much the only place to get decent food without going to Green Bay, until Walmart built a super center there. Even after that, they were the place everyone would go for bread and other stuff that wasn't just your standard packaged stuff. (Veggies, meats, breads, ect.)

There was also a local butcher. I can't vouch for where he got his meat from, sure. but it was a local guy cutting it up himself.

Everywhere I've lived since has had access to much better stuff than Walmart Tier trash, to varying levels of quality.

 

[BikeLock]

Food is literally the only thing that the Eurocucks get right.

We're not gonna win this one Ameribros, thanks to our FDA and the USDA.

 

[Judge Holden]

I love this thread, hahah. I am having a fun time reading it.
*pours myself a shot of Frank's Red Hot*

Gotta be real, having sampled Franks Red Hot in a variety of dishes including its native hot wings I am extremely unimpressed at the lack of flavor. Its like a mildly hot red vinigger

 

[Ghostse]

I haven't had a positive USA restaurant experience in 10+ years. The food suuuuuucks and the waitstaff is always miserable. It's gotten so much worse after COVID. Prices are jacked up and portions are smaller. But most Americans I know don't know how to cook but one or two dishes, and don't bother to try to learn more, so they don't even know that the restaurant food has gotten so bad.

Every time I'm invited out to a restaurant, I heavily consider hanging myself instead.

And yet, there seems to be this stigma around home-cooking being unsanitary and/or for poor people. I've met people who brag about "not eating leftovers" like it's some sort of flex. (????) It's like people go to restaurants for the sole experience to masquerade as rich retards with servants.

Only thing worth while at restaurants is deep fried stuff because fuck trying to maintain & cleanup after a deep fryer.

 

[Deckard Bane]

I live in rural New England, a lot of stuff is local - if not from the local towns then almost certainly from the Northern New England Region. We have some bakeries spread out (at least one per town) but most people just do what I do and bake their own bread. There are more houses with little wooden stands outside of them selling fresh baked goods then there are actual bakeries. Some farms sell fresh beef as well, but they are limited in my immediate area. If I go to the supermarkets they will have local stuff marked, but if I want to get the 100% local stuff that I know isn't mass produced I just go to the local Co-Op grocery store where just about everything is from Vermont and New Hampshire.

This is not the norm across the country though. I've lived in different cities across more than a few states and New England puts way more emphasis on shopping local, especially outside the cities. I don't know 100% how the meat stuff works here or if the local farmers just don't give a fuck about the laws, but given the general feelings of government around here I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

I'll grant you the bread, we definitely don't have the whole European corner bakery thing going, which is a shame. I don't think it's so dire as saying the bread is all made out of styrofoam or anything, but it's mass-produced at central bakeries out of doubtless the cheapest-possible ingredients.

My favorite local bakery makes the best dark German rye I've ever had, not to mention competition-winning pastries

 

[Null]

America is the biggest superpower in the world we could fuck every single army at the same time into the ground and completely dominate anything we wanted to. We currently have a literal corpse as the President of the United States and the world trembles when we move our Navy around that polices the entirety of the ocean.

man I can't wait for China to start killing Amerimutt mercenaries

 

[PeggieBigCock]

I live in an area I can get fresh mozzarella and feta in their brines at many places but I’m very lucky

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

I'll grant you the bread, we definitely don't have the whole European corner bakery thing going, which is a shame.

There’s a solid bakery on the corner of Main Street in my town of like 2000.

 

[Big Fat Frog]

Dude moved to some European shithole and just memoryholed everything.

 

[Cardinal Cardinal]

because I clicked the button i wrote the code for my-fucking-self so i can click it any time i want retard

Alright, let's all calm down and come to a realization. We're all unwillingly scouting an area for Josh to live when he returns to the States. Let's take this opportunity to gaslight him into believing some ghetto infested area has the best meats and cheese.

 

[bile demon]

You will never eat real food. You have no dairy farms, you have no butchers, you have no bakeries. You are an obese monstrosity malformed by soybean oil and HFCS into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

All the “locally made food” you get is mass-produced and heavily processed. Behind your back Europeans mock you. Your ancestors are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “online friends” laugh at your soygolem appearance in private discord servers.

Non-americans are utterly repulsed by your food. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed us to sniff out goyslop with incredible efficiency. Even your organic produce with a “bio” label looks artificial and unnatural to us. The laundry list of additives is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get something fresh from a local farmer, it'll turn out to be full of glyphosate and industrial fertilizers.

You will never be healthy. You make yourself a bowl of sugar-loaded cereal with milk full of antibiotics every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel your glucose serum levels creeping up like a weed, ready to crush what's left of your insulin sensitivity.

Eventually it’ll be too much for your cardiovascular system to bear - you’ll wolf down a hamburger, wash it down with a diet coke, clutch your chest in agony, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to watch you put on weight with unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with a McDonald's logo and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know an American is buried there. Your adipose tissue will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a bundle of calcified coronary arteries.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

 

[DumbDude43]

American cuts of beef are generally superior to European cuts

dont know about all cuts, but i can confirm from experience that the US import ribeye steak i sometimes get is way better than our local entrecote (same-ish cut)
the burgerland beef has way more fatty marbling, which makes it a lot juicier, and more tender. probably because they feed their cattle with corn over there, not sure, but it definitely is superior steak. it's giga expensive though, more than twice the price of the local stuff, so i only buy it very rarely.

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

Amerifriends ITT packing lunch for their kids. Backpack is rated IIIA, baguette is from bleached flour, cheese is Cheddar.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

America is so incredibly regional and our state and federal rules so complex it's hard to simply pin down a region as being slop fed or fresh pilled. Most people eating like shit in America are doing it by choice and because it's easy. It's not even cheaper anymore.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

While we're on the topic of American stores, I sure do love being able to pick up pickled banana peppers whenever I want. Imagine living in a place where you don't have 24/7 access to banana peppers. I think I'd rather kill myself lmao.

 

[waffle]

That's an exception and not the rule. I think Missouri's model of in-state steak is brand new, I remember hearing the news that MO was looking at implementing this into law around the time I first chimped out about USDA slaughterhouses.

Nope, the federal enabling regulation on this was last changed in 1994, its just that not every state does it.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/661

And I was wrong, Nadlers is federally inspected now, and I know for a fact they are owned by the people who live out front, not some multi national.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/inspection/fsis-inspected-establishments/nadlers-meats-catering-llc