Debate user Null on if agnostics should have to pick a side

[Illuminati Order Official]

Being an agnostic means that you believe it's not possible for any person to know for sure if a god exists or not.

That's agnostic atheism.
There also is agnostic theism declaring that there is a God or gods but people are unable to comprehend such entities.

Personally, if I can pick "not religious" as an option, I'm fine with it. Modern atheists are usually insufferable because they turned their atheism into another religion and preach it with devotion and fire. Religious people are much more diverse, from absolutely insufferable to really cool, but no religion I ever encountered made me think "yes, it explains everything and everything it teaches sounds like it's coming from divine inspiration".

 

[The Reddest Red 0ne]

Funny that coming from @Null when he's terrified to elaborate on his religious views at all in public.

Speaking of that, what’s with that “James 4:7” icon at the bottom of the page? “Submit yourselves to God,” right? Sounds like it’s implying everyone should be devout.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

OK I choose Shiva, Goddess of Destruction

Shiva is a he, you heretic! Please don't troon a god.
You mean Kalika.

 

[David Brown]

Speaking of that, what’s with that “James 4:7” icon at the bottom of the page? “Submit yourselves to God,” right? Sounds like it’s implying everyone should be devout.

We'll never know, because he'll never say. Not that he has anything interesting he wants to say about it.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Shiva is a he, you heretic! Please don't troon a god.
You mean Kalika.

What's a bit a of subversive godly transgenderism to a big religion like Hinduism

 

[Sprocket]

I'm late to the party. Anyfart....

People who call themselves "agnostic" are full of shit. Fucking period.

You're either religious, or you're not religious. You either believe something or you don't believe it.

"Its impossible to know, so I don't know and therefore I am agnostic". Bullshit. You either buy it or you don't.

Calling yourself agnostic is a retarded attempt to appear intelligent.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Speaking of that, what’s with that “James 4:7” icon at the bottom of the page? “Submit yourselves to God,” right? Sounds like it’s implying everyone should be devout.

Idk but I like it. It’s like the non-soyentific version of the Reddit Pi footer.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

I'm autistic agnostic but have recently considered checking out a local Buddhist temple. Too faggy?

Buddhism is an Asian man's religion. If you're white (which I assume you are), just stick to Christianity.

 

[Mothra1988]

I'm late to the party. Anyfart....

People who call themselves "agnostic" are full of shit. Fucking period.

You're either religious, or you're not religious. You either believe something or you don't believe it.

"Its impossible to know, so I don't know and therefore I am agnostic". Bullshit. You either buy it or you don't.

Calling yourself agnostic is a retarded attempt to appear intelligent.

I don't think it's this cut and dry. Retarded atheists sometimes have the spiritual experiences a lot of us do, but the atheism is so burned into their brains that they cling onto it a bit and say they are agnostic.

 

[Skitarii]

Buddhism is an Asian man's religion. If you're white (which I assume you are), just stick to Christianity.

Ackshually Christianity originated in Asia, and Buddhism is Indo-European

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Ackshually Christianity originated in Asia, and Buddhism is Indo-European

Chriatianity was created by white people, while Buddhism was invented in India and popularized in the Far East.

 

[Skitarii]

Chriatianity was created by white people,

The Church was built from the ground-up by saints of several different colors and ethnic backgrounds, many within Egypt and Greece alone. I'm not going to get into the racial background of Jesus Christ besides him being a descendant of Shem, who is a descendant of God. You can debate the racial classification of 1st century Hebraics with 21st century race-grifters all you want, I don't have time for that.

Buddhism was invented in India and popularized in the Far East.

Buddhism was invented by a gay schizophrenic who you might as well consider white if you consider Semites white (at least ancient Ladakhis were actually Indo-European). None of that matters because the mainstream East Asian branches of Buddhism that you're thinking of dealt away with the Pali Canon and the Theravada councils, and substituted them with Mongol practices that borrowed heavily from Nestorianism (a white religion according to you, despite being practiced almost entirely by Iraqi sandnigs).

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

East Asian branches of Buddhism that you're thinking of dealt away with the Pali Canon and the Theravada councils, and substituted them with Mongol practices that borrowed heavily from Nestorianism (a white religion according to you, despite being practiced almost entirely by Iraqi sandnigs).

I have never heard this before. Where did you find this out? Also, the best way to find out what Jesus looked like is to look into what the Romans and Greeks had to say about the racial features of the Jews of the 2nd century BC through the 2nd century AD. He probably wasn't white in the modern sense (In fact, most people in the Greek and Roman empires weren't white in the Germanic sense. Even the Aryans (the various Iranian tribesmen) were at their whitest Slavs and that's not even counting the ones that got a bad case of yellow fever out East).

 

[Skitarii]

I have never heard this before. Where did you find this out?

Morris Rossabi and Mark Edward Lewis go into the history of the Tang/Yuan Dynasties, the development of Buddhism under the Khans, and the spread of those traditions into Tibet and China. You can read up on the First and Second Buddhist councils and the Theravada split on your own, there's plenty of scholarly resources available.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Morris Rossabi and Mark Edward Lewis go into the history of the Tang/Yuan Dynasties, the development of Buddhism under the Khans, and the spread of those traditions into Tibet and China. You can read up on the First and Second Buddhist councils and the Theravada split on your own, there's plenty of scholarly resources available.

I'll take a look into this. I knew there must be some reason why East Asian Buddhism literally sounds like a watered down version of Christianity. Now I know why.

 

[Catler]

If I say agnostic it's not that I haven't taken a side, it's that I find the theist/atheist debate an inane waste of my time. It's just a painful discussion to have as no side can ever win and no one ever leaves happy, so it's better to stay out of it.

If I tell you I'm agnostic what I'm really telling you is to fuck off.

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

I haven't felt any significant pull to any religion despite briefly looking into many of them and haven't experienced anything supernatural that would push me to one particular thing or other.
But I have experienced supernatural and high strangeness events that make me think there's something else out there or a higher power, or high powers, but nothing I experienced matches anything I've ever read about (certainly not any Abrahamic stuff).
So I say agnostic because that's colloquially as close to that as I can get besides saying "spiritual or questioning" which sounds gay.