Defendant: Ethan Oliver Ralph - Ethan Ralph's Documented Legal Troubles & Other Court Docs

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AnOminous said:
Considering nobody seems to care enough to get any of the documents in these cases, it's like trying to do sports commentary on two retards in pitch black darkness in the fog flailing at each other idiotically, while trying to figure out what's going on from the tard babble both retards are spewing.
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Didn't Vickers claim to have submitted FOIA requests to try to find who, if anyone, requested records for one of the previous cases? Not surprised that would have a chilling effect.

HackerX said:
Digital penetration is definitely my burning question at the moment. I want to hear the a judge ask Ralph and/or Vickers what it means.
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Why the judge? I want Ralph to be asking those questions. When discovery starts and he's taking the depositions of the relevant people.

Ralph is also entitled to conduct discovery related to his defense. I think Vickers was too distracted by telling random people "Welcome to discovery" to realize that there's two sides to discovery. I don't know how it works when it's a civil case where Ralph appears to be representing himself and there's restraining orders against him for a bunch of the people he'd want to depose, but I can't imagine the answer is that he's not allowed to conduct discovery.

I am not why Vickers decided to turn a slam dunk contempt charge into a shaky defamation claim, but it's going to be hilarious no matter what happens.
 
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Considering Ralph has made up with Rekieta, he should try and get SpeckTree to help him out with the Vickers court stuff.
 
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HackerX said:
Digital penetration is definitely my burning question at the moment. I want to hear the a judge ask Ralph and/or Vickers what it means.
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I think I read elsewhere that it refers to fingering a girl (fingers=digits), I could’ve swore that phrase was used at some other filing in the great Ralph vs Vickers clan lawfare campaign.
 
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Vickers gets his costs awarded:
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ETA: Also whatever these interrogatories are about:
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Fannyscum said:
Vickers gets his costs awarded:
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Those are fees, not costs, but what is funny is that the court agreed to add on another hour for a hearing requested by Ralph.

That said, I am distinctly unimpressed by the typos/nonsense in this proposed order* ("remotedly"; "Petitioner Matthew Vicker's,"; the war crime of faux-legal and rogue capitalizing that is that first paragraph).

Yep, it apparently got the job done. But I weep for the lack of professionalism.

* when people file a motion, they typically also file a proposed order - what they want the court to rule/sign. If the court completely agrees with the basic request in the motion, they will sign the proposed order, not draft their own. So this order was written [it appears] by Vickers' attorney, and the judge signed it. So though he got his additional 300 shekels, he could have spent the 30 seconds ($2.50 at the awarded rate) it would have taken to make it not be dumb.
 
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Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
* when people file a motion, they typically also file a proposed order - what they want the court to rule/sign. If the court completely agrees with the basic request in the motion, they will sign the proposed order, not draft their own.
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Sometimes the court will order the parties to cooperate on drafting a more complicated order. I always suspect a puckish level of mischief in doing that.
 
Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
Sure. But yet he just keeps piling up reasons to stay out of the US. If he's that scared of being subject to paying his debts, though, he can probably stretch Mexico or some other place out a very long time, longer than he can in the US. Now, if some judgment creditor were to go through the process of making the judgment enforceable/collectible in Mexico, I guess he'd be in a pickle - though I don't know how hard MX would go to collect on a judgment of this sort, or what they could do to collect on it. Given he doesn't work for anyone but himself, and could close bank accounts and live cash-only, not sure what could be done for actual collection.

I wonder - if he is not a permanent Mexico resident, could Rumble (if a US-based company) get a garnishment request through US collection efforts without having to deal with enforcement through Mexican enforcement of the US judgment, even if he resides in Mexico but is a US citizen? I'm sure there's a technical legal answer that at least gets to "probably," but I'm too tired for exhaustive research, and so I'm going to go with, "probably more expensive to try seriously to collect on a $5k judgment in this situation than the likely recovery amount, but he's in danger if/when he returns to the US."
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Sorry to be so late to the conversation, but I think it goes like this.

Ralph’s failure to pay child support, for example, becomes criminal at a certain threshold. Then his passport is revoked. His bank then pulls an ID check, closes his account.

According to recent Ralph tweets, he is 37 months from applying for permanent residency. If anything were to happen to his passport before then, he ends up homeless and debanked in Mexico, and needs to turn himself in somewhere to face the American music or go off the grid.
 
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AnOminous said:
Sometimes the court will order the parties to cooperate on drafting a more complicated order. I always suspect a puckish level of mischief in doing that.
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True, but in this case, I doubt it!
SpergioLeonne said:
Ralph’s failure to pay child support, for example, becomes criminal at a certain threshold. Then his passport is revoked. His bank then pulls an ID check, closes his account.
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Yep, though it's not self executing out of a basiccourt order - the owed-to parent does have to open a child support case with their state, and the child support agency will then have to certify to the state dept the amount owing, etc. Not necessarily a big deal, but hoops and the custodial parent does have to take action if their child support case is not already managed by the state (most divorces/child support situations don't run their child support through the state, though they probably should, given the dismal 45% rate on full payment).

Not sure what you mean about the de-banking as it relates to the passport scenario. Being refused a new/renewed passport or having it revoked shouldn't mean banks revoke/close accounts (unless they can't pass the standard kyc/cdd stuff for other reasons...but that's typically an account opening issue).

Further, even if a us bank would de-bank a child support deadbeat (which seems counter-intuitive to the idea of wanting payment at some point), there are ways to keep money out of us banks, ofc. A person currently considered a temporary resident of Mexico* and with a valid us passport should be able to open an account at a Mexican bank (barring other negative factors, which may exist). Plus non-bank alts.

More interesting might be seeking garnishment, though idk how that works with independent contractors, which I assume he is..

*not hard to get and the timelines for temp-to-perm align with his comments, iirc (get one; must renew after a year but can renew for 1-3 years, at which point you can apply for perm:

People who want to live in Mexico indefinitely but only qualify for temporary residency can apply for temporary residency to begin with and, after four consecutive years* of temporary residency can apply to automatically exchange their temporary residency status for permanent residency in Mexico.

Near the end of the four consecutive years holding temporary residency, you can apply to exchange your Residente Temporalpermit for a Residente Permanente permit. The transfer from temporary to permanent residency is undertaken at your nearest immigration office in Mexicowith an application procedure and payment of the processing fees.

You do not need to demonstrate your economic solvency when you have four consecutive years of temporary residency and apply to exchange this for permanent residency.
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(may not be the best source but was clear and consistent with others)

Re the bold: lol
 
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Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
Not sure what you mean about the de-banking as it relates to the passport scenario.
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I am not a lawyer or a tax accountant or any profession where you would likely be reasonably well informed about any of this stuff, but from what I’ve read trying to look at Ralph’s situation, there’s a shit ton of ways to have his account flagged and passport revoked.

Owing over $2500 in back child support can trigger passport cancellation, as can failing to file a tax return while a US citizen residing in a foreign country.

What I meant when I said “blah blah ID check, debank” was speculation that if his account/s got flagged in relation to the IRS or the Office of Child Support Services revoking his passport, it might look something like “hey we need to see your ID. Not your Mexican ID, your US passport. Oh hey you’re out of the country on a bad passport, account locked.”

I’m not SURE that that’s what happens, but it seems to me that if your passport gets revoked for reasons of finance, it would be plausible that the very same financial institutions that would enforce garnishments could also be leveraged to compel your appearance at the consulate.
 
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SpergioLeonne said:
I am not a lawyer or a tax accountant or any profession where you would likely be reasonably well informed about any of this stuff, but from what I’ve read trying to look at Ralph’s situation, there’s a shit ton of ways to have his account flagged and passport revoked.

Owing over $2500 in back child support can trigger passport cancellation, as can failing to file a tax return while a US citizen residing in a foreign country.

What I meant when I said “blah blah ID check, debank” was speculation that if his account/s got flagged in relation to the IRS or the Office of Child Support Services revoking his passport, it might look something like “hey we need to see your ID. Not your Mexican ID, your US passport. Oh hey you’re out of the country on a bad passport, account locked.”

I’m not SURE that that’s what happens, but it seems to me that if your passport gets revoked for reasons of finance, it would be plausible that the very same financial institutions that would enforce garnishments could also be leveraged to compel your appearance at the consulate.
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Garnishment and passport revocation are different parts of enforcement.

For child support-related garnishment, it would usually be the employer garnishing, not the bank.

And you're right - a bank could ask for more info etc, if something with an existing customer seems off, But that usually has to do with types of attempted transactions if you are already a customer. I haven't seen that there's a necessarily a direct line from a "cannot renew" passport to a notice to a bank (US or otherwise). Agencies tend to respect their boundaries in the absence of explicit authorization.

As for what a bank requires to open an account, idr having to provide a passport to open my united states bank accounts - just a driver's license. ...but it does appear that a us citizen residing in Mexico trying to open an account with a Mexican bank will likely be asked for a passport, along with the temp/perm residency card and a utility bill for proof of address. Again, though, that's just opening an account. If his passport is OK today he could have accounts and wouldn't likely have to prove anything to continue using it.

As for what happens once you're refused issuance/renewal of a passport for failure to pay child support (in arrears >$2500 in support), to get eligible for a new [and renewed] passport, the process is described below. It appears to be a full handoff agency to agency, rather than a single process, and banks are not even mentioned. And again, this requires that the child support case already be handled by the state, enough statutory and processing time/opportunities to catch up or appeal has passed, and for the state agency to have forwarded the info to the DOS:

If You've Already Applied for your Passport​

  1. Make arrangements to pay your child support arrears with the appropriate state child support enforcement agency.
  2. The state agency reports to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) that you've made acceptable payment arrangements.
  3. HHS removes your name from their list and reports this to us. This may take 2-3 weeks.
  4. We verify that HHS removed your name.
  5. We process your passport application.
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I also checked international aspects of child support enforcement. Interpol excludes child support from its list of crimes for which it will issue a Red Notice. In addition, Mexico is not on the list of countries agreeing via Hague Convention to reciprocal enforcement of child support, nor is it listed as having a country-specific arrangement with the US. If the deadbeat is in a country without an arrangement with the US, the US govt says:
In most cases, when there is no reciprocity with the other country, state child support agencies are not able to assist. Contact your local child support agency to ask if it has any suggestions. See also Q9.

If your state child support agency is not able to provide child support services, you may choose to hire private legal counsel in the other country. The U.S. Department of State’s website provides helpful information on retaining a foreign attorney .
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https://www.acf.hhs.gov/css/faq/frequently-asked-questions-about-international-cases#q5

Basically, you are SOL.
 
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