Lolcow Derek Smart

[Particle Bored]

I didn't know I was a white supremacist, but only on the weekends.

Geez, what am I gonna tell my friends when they wanna hang out?

More importantly, what am I going to tell my Grand Cyclops on Monday?

Derek Smart is old and bald and makes broken games and has no understanding of the law and I would not have sex with him.

Spoiler

...but I banged his wife while wearing my pointy hood.

 

[Luvs2Sperg789]

Say what you will about Derek Smart, but the drama he's involved with regarding Sperg Citizen is positively delish.

 

[Secret Asshole]

If the information was gained through hacking, then yeah. If they got it through their ISP and the ISP gave up the customer info because they were stupid or some tech support guy got social engineered, that's probably civil/criminal depending on circumstances. If they got the information through people searches and linking up usernames with Facebook (a couple of google searches), then I can't possibly see how that is illegal at all. Removing internet anonymity isn't a crime. Its embarrassing and scary to be sure, but someone finding that out through google searches/people finder/public records isn't illegal. If it was, I'm sure the entirety of the tabloid press would be in jail now.

Its what people do with that information is where it becomes harassment. Following them around and posting their information wherever they go, sure. Swatting them, most definitely. But even then, internet harassment cases are extremely difficult to prosecute. The only time I recall them even being brought are nightmare situations where neighbors tried to frame people by uploading child porn on their unsecured network after a ton of harassment or cases where kids have been shamed/bullied to death. And even where kids died convictions weren't had. Pretty much all those cases bleed over into the real world and I've heard of no prosecutions for simply posting information that could be found through google.

If the information was gained by what people themselves put out there, wasn't gotten through illegal methods/social engineering, I don't possibly see what is illegal about it. I guess you could make a civil case where it caused you emotional distress. But criminal? Highly, highly doubt it.

 

[D.Va]

He came, he saw, he did nothing

What a bore.

 

[Meowthkip]

Actually, you brought up a very good point. First, you and CatParty are absolutely right. But let me elaborate a skosh.

Historically I've considered CON a sub-branch of the Rat King, since while the likes of Quinn sure as shit isn't directly in it, a shitload of people involved in CON are. Historically, I've always thought that this was a case of the obvious, since these morons tend to get into circlejerks as easily as breathing. Pretty much every accusation of collusion with them in the past has panned out, after all.

All of which, however, is ruined by a brain-dead typo that I'm seriously pissed at myself for missing despite the fact that I've talked about it like fifty times: Quinn, Harper, et al hedged all these idiots out. They added them to the blocklists, they actively avoid them like the cancer-ridden shitheels they are, and all evidence is that any connections they used to have with them are gone now, regardless of whether or not they originally associated with them. Looking closer at it, one can't really blame them considering.

So in other words, the argument could be made that they may have been technically Rat King-related once? Like 2 years ago? But they sure as hell aren't now, and haven't been in quite some time.

With that in mind, it's been fucking dumb of me to consider CON itself its own branch, but things really came even further into perspective when I was trying to put together a sort of flow chart map for just one section of the Rat King. I was trying to see just how much of a clusterfuck it could get, so the idea was to lock down a few examples and see how they scatter out. When I did so, however, I finally realized the obvious you bastards were trying to smack me with all along: Of the various cows that extend out from what I considered the "CON Branch," basically ALL OF THEM are there anyway if you cut Crash Override out of the picture entirely, from Jake Alley to David Gallant.

TL;DR: What I thought was its own branch really wasn't. At least not currently. I fucked up, and I will own that, and I thank you guys for pointing it the fuck out.

In your defense, they're all pretty much the same as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Strelok]

Just a reminder that Derek's shitty Planetside 2 clone game (Which you guessed it, is suspected to be another fork of the Battlecruiser code) has had it's US West 01 server offline for the better part of a year now, because he thinks cloud sever hosting is a scam, but also claims it's too expensive to fly over to the physical server and swap out a busted hardrive and iDRAC card when his self owned physical server breaks.

He charges $15 for this "game" now btw after getting kicked off steam. He moved to Gamergate (no relation), which is notable in that unlike steam, origin, uplay, etc, has a strict NO REFUNDS WHATSOEVER policy, except presumably in places like the EU where they will kick your teeth in over refund rights.

 

[proteus4994]

Uncle Derek is a fantastic source of drama about Star Citizen, even though he basically just rehashes shit from the SA thread. However, the guy has never made a good game in his life, so when he speaks from a position of "ALMIGHTY DEVELOPER" it's pretty fucking hilarious.

Edit: I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned his little Star Citizen Discord fiefdom, but it's probably worth weaseling your way in there if you want to see some real Derek Smart insanity and (what blows my mind even more) Derek Smart sycophants.

Here's the link to the SA thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773236

And the Discord invite link (although you'll need to verify on SA so if you don't have an SA account you probably won't get much out of this): https://discord.gg/0sasVA7SRFEX9raG

 

[BillionBisonBucks]

(what blows my mind even more) Derek Smart sycophants

Hopefully most of them are just 'weasels', as you put it, who have been in place forever. I mean, this dude's been a lolcow since the BBS days, and I've never heard anyone speak a positive word about him except in his direct presence for the express purpose of getting in good with him.

 

[Strelok]

Hopefully most of them are just 'weasels', as you put it, who have been in place forever. I mean, this dude's been a lolcow since the BBS days, and I've never heard anyone speak a positive word about him except in his direct presence for the express purpose of getting in good with him.

He's latched onto the Elite Dangerous crowd after the trench lines were dug in between them and the SC crowd. Elite players love to bash SC because it lets them ignore the lack of a good core gameplay of their game. So Derek is more or less their useful idiot whose constantly banned but never perma'd because he's useful to keep around.

The problem is the ED fanboys don't seem to realize that the possibility of SC flopping doesn't magically make their game not suck. It's entirely possible for two bad games to exist.

 

[proteus4994]

Hopefully most of them are just 'weasels', as you put it, who have been in place forever. I mean, this dude's been a lolcow since the BBS days, and I've never heard anyone speak a positive word about him except in his direct presence for the express purpose of getting in good with him.

They're not. There's a significant portion of the SA Star Citizen thread that sees Derek as someone who speaks truth to power, and not someone who's a complete sperg who's been insane for decades.

To be fair, there are people who still see him as the former, but those tend to be people who have been part of Internet culture for almost 20 years and remember his Usenet insanity, and those people are few and far between.

Edit:

He's latched onto the Elite Dangerous crowd after the trench lines were dug in between them and the SC crowd. Elite players love to bash SC because it lets them ignore the lack of a good core gameplay of their game. So Derek is more or less their useful idiot whose constantly banned but never perma'd because he's useful to keep around.

The problem is the ED fanboys don't seem to realize that the possibility of SC flopping doesn't magically make their game not suck. It's entirely possible for two bad games to exist.

I don't want to derail this into an ED/SC debate, but it's honestly the Star Citizen fans who have been shitting on Elite Dangerous for years as being boring and non-fidelitous and whatever else. The ED guys aren't the ones who started this particular drama, although I'm sure quite a few of them are pretty salty about having to listen to SC fans' shit for a couple of years.

Most ED players are well aware of the game's many flaws and acknowledge them openly. At least as far as I've seen.

 

[BillionBisonBucks]

...I guess the most positive thing I can say about that is that he's at least some form of productive in his chosen pursuits, unlike many people those poor idiots could latch their cart to.

 

[proteus4994]

...I guess the most positive thing I can say about that is that he's at least some form of productive in his chosen pursuits, unlike many people those poor idiots could latch their cart to.

I've always heard it said that "Derek Smart makes games for Derek Smart" and that seems pretty accurate. The guy is independently wealthy (as much bullshit as Derek talks, this is the one thing that's pretty much verified) due to some smart investments during the dot-com boom iirc. I don't think he honestly gives two shits about how many copies his games sell, it's all a huge vanity project.

 

[Stranger Neighbors]

This popped up in my suggested, and I knew he would have a thread

Im new to Derek but after watching that vid, color me curious

 

[Maskull]

Welcome to Kiwi Farms, @Derek Smart.

 

[Baguette Child]

Hey @Derek Smart, how's Alganon doing these days? Do you still stand by your work?

 

[Meowthkip]

Welcome to Kiwi Farms, @Derek Smart.

I, for one, am surprised it's taken this long.

 

[proteus4994]

Ouch, some of my posts in this thread are brutal, I’m going to take back most of what I said about Derek being insane. A lot of that was SA bias speaking.

although Uncle Derek is a little bit crazy, I will stand by that

 

[Woke Blue Muttlema]

@Derek Smart Please deliver us to glory.

 

[TheRealDerekSmart]

He is almost certainly an imposter.

There is only man you come to when you want a sub standard Planetside clone that would be embarrassing if it was running on a casio game and watch delivered some 8 years late, and thats me.

Theres only one pretend multimillionaire super developer who “knows things” and runs his hugely successful games development studio from a P.O box, and thats me.

Theres only one person you can trust to insert themsleves into a struggling dev studio run by clueless morons to whisper in their ear to fire their project lead and replace them with your worthless arse so you can fleece them dry and run the studio into the fucking ground ...... and thats me.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

I mean tbf he can't be doing worse with Alganon than David Allen was. This is, however, not praise for Derek Smart, but just pointing out how fucking terrible David Allen is