Devon Del Vecchio / "Dev" / ShortFatOtaku / @sleepy_devo - Degenerate loser, honorary whiteknight for Lilith Lovett, constantly at odds with his own viewers for being a centrist

I'm just gonna let you know right now that China v. Taiwan and Singapore is very different compared to Russia v. Ukraine.
For start Taiwan (state) does not really exists.
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To make long story after WW2 China had civil war and commies won. Remnants of opposition fled to Taiwan and created goverment in exile. Taiwanese goverment used to claim and be recognised as rightful goverment of China, by most of the world , but with rise of red China and reconquest of mainland being impossible. Taiwanese goverment lost recognition.
And here we are today.
 
Big brained Dev giving earnest responses to likely joke accounts:
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I'm fairly sure the guy he's quoting isn't on the level, but you be the judge.

It's not wonder his takes are so utterly retarded when his first instinct is to give kneejerk responses to everything he sees. With that in mind I wonder what Devonian research actually looks like. Fatness and faggotry are truly a way of life for him.
 
For start Taiwan (state) does not really exists.
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To make long story after WW2 China had civil war and commies won. Remnants of opposition fled to Taiwan and created goverment in exile. Taiwanese goverment used to claim and be recognised as rightful goverment of China, by most of the world , but with rise of red China and reconquest of mainland being impossible. Taiwanese goverment lost recognition.
And here we are today.
Taiwan is a country and China is undoubtably a tyrant.
 
Big brained Dev giving earnest responses to likely joke accounts:
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I'm fairly sure the guy he's quoting isn't on the level, but you be the judge.

It's not wonder his takes are so utterly retarded when his first instinct is to give kneejerk responses to everything he sees. With that in mind I wonder what Devonian research actually looks like. Fatness and faggotry are truly a way of life for him.
Dev has a brain of stone. Hard and obtuse. Memes are too much for him to handle.
We here on the dev thread formally acknowledge the sovereignty of Taiwan...

Out of spite.

Communists are gay.
Better than Dev, who can't acknowledge biological sex.
 
For start Taiwan (state) does not really exists.
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To make long story after WW2 China had civil war and commies won. Remnants of opposition fled to Taiwan and created goverment in exile. Taiwanese goverment used to claim and be recognised as rightful goverment of China, by most of the world , but with rise of red China and reconquest of mainland being impossible. Taiwanese goverment lost recognition.
And here we are today.
Taiwan is more of a state than Palestine by actually functioning as a country. But yes, they did lose the Civil War thanks to the United States.
 
The difference (and it is an important one) is where this comes from. My generation grew up when the Moral Majority goons were the designated anti-fun brigade. And while a lot of users on this site would love nothing better than to pretend it wasn't the case, too fucking many of the religious right back in my day were only too willing to own up to every negative stereotype you could possibly envision about them and then some.
The word "conspirasy theorist" gets thrown at people who don't follow the msm narrative, but back then it had a different meaning. It refered to people who believed in conspirasy theories. The types that though X-Files and Enemy of the State were documentaries. They were mocked because every explanation would be answered by expanding the conspiracy, until it was so vast that it strained credibility.

I see this a lot from the right on KF. Every right wing nut was a plant, every bad news story was lies, every personal experience was a one off that doesn't reflect the whole, etc. All as part of a global plan to... I don't know. Stop gamers getting laid? Trans the kids? Implement mass immigration? It's not exactly clear.

They want to repeat the mistakes of the past because that was when they were powerful and calling them woke stops them from doing that.
They, just like the left, see gaming and gamers as neutral ground easily conquered for their ideology. But they got in late and gamers are so entrenched it never goes well for them. I think that's why we see so much sperging about gamers and anime fans specifically. They think they've got it figured out. They think it'll be an easy win. But they don't.
 
That's been speculated a lot but he's said consistently that Camera Lady was a separate person and that she's featured in really old SFO videos. I can see why people naturally come to this conclusion though,
As somebody who hung around in the IRC back then from what I remember Dev wasn't that active but cameralady was around a lot. After a certain point people were getting pretty pissed at them because they continued to sit on the info from the Polytron hack/leak. Later somebody posted allegations/deetz that Dev had used the Cameralady twitter account to slide into DMs and fish for nudes. Afterwards Cameralady completely disappeared from the internet and never showed up in the IRC either. A bunch of people I talked to privately weren't really surprised because they had always pegged him as a wanker and a creep.

If she was real, Dev probably had access to her account with or without her knowledge.
 
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But as @Gehenna once pointed out, there is always more to every story. Many of the religious organizations that were cheerfully acting like assholes were actively being egged on by leftist groups at the time - or being paid directly by them. It's the reason you saw Jack Thompson happily jump in bed with the likes of Hillary Clinton and Lyndon LaRouche. Both sides were in on it, and only one of them was left holding the bag when public opinion finally slapped them upside the head. This does not, in any way, lessen the actions of the religious shitheads at the time. I have too many fucking stories of friends of mine that got disowned because they realized in their early 20s that they were gay, or fucking had all their belongings trashed because they liked PNP RPGs and Video Games, or got thrown the fuck out when they came of age because they dared to want a life that didn't involve complete supplication to their parents' sociopolitical leanings (hey, this sounds familiar).
I think the difference in the moral panics of the left and right was the scope and tools they used. The religious right aimed to convince parents and teachers to police their children and families, much more personal, to disown your child is an individual choice.

The woke left appeals more to state power to enforce their morals. People not only lose their jobs but also go to jail for misbehaving, for microaggressions or for making jokes from ten years ago. And the weaponized journalism against the population in defense of these practices is much more malicious.

Sorry to say, but I prefer satanic panic over faggots in power any day
 
I think the difference in the moral panics of the left and right was the scope and tools they used. The religious right aimed to convince parents and teachers to police their children and families, much more personal, to disown your child is an individual choice.

The woke left appeals more to state power to enforce their morals. People not only lose their jobs but also go to jail for misbehaving, for microaggressions or for making jokes from ten years ago. And the weaponized journalism against the population in defense of these practices is much more malicious.

Sorry to say, but I prefer satanic panic over faggots in power any day
At least the bible-thumpers would realize when they're being straight rarded
 
For start Taiwan (state) does not really exists.
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To make long story after WW2 China had civil war and commies won. Remnants of opposition fled to Taiwan and created goverment in exile. Taiwanese goverment used to claim and be recognised as rightful goverment of China, by most of the world , but with rise of red China and reconquest of mainland being impossible. Taiwanese goverment lost recognition.
And here we are today.
Taiwan does not recognise the People's Republic of China as a sovereign country and the People's Republic of China does not recognise Taiwan as a sovereign country.
Each lays claims to their counterpart. Each used to practice the same brand of Han nationalism cut out of the same cloth but in recent years, Taiwan has became more and more socially progressive.
Articles pertaining to politics in the Sino region are controlled by westoids, it's full of misconceptions and outright errors. The truth lies somewhere in between that and the other extreme presented by the People's Republic of China.
It's really complicated. The shorter version was this civil war never ended. The older generation of Mainland China still wishes for a peaceful reunion which is becoming increasingly impossible. It's likely that the CPC are waiting for the elderly to die off so the islands can be reclaimed by force.

Westoids will claim the CPC slithered in as the Japanese were defeated to hammer down an already weakened KMT army. CPC will claim the KMT was inept and corrupt, they folded because of that. I think both are true, the CPC were opportunists and the KMT was a corrupted Han fascist trash.

Or just be Bhutan, acknowledge neither of these stupid chinks.
Ignore the Great Burger Satan even.
To Hell with those stupid kikes.
The most recent country to establish diplomatic relations with Israel was Bhutan, on 12 December 2020.
Cmon. Disappointing.
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They didn’t though. That's how they lost influence in the first place.
They did in a way. Let me explain.

The way stupid works for righties is different from how it is for lefties. A righty will take an extremely principled stance over something absolutely fucking retarded or for equally retarded reasons, whereas for most stupid lefties, they either won't show any principles whatsoever or they'll lock onto one entirely for emotional reasons.

A side effect of this is that a stupid righty will try to put things into a matrix of logic that, at least to them, makes sense, including making use of new information or changing their position slightly based on new facts. It'll be a fucking stupid matrix, and the perspective will be warped, so if you don't actually know what the fuck is going on in their heads, it will just look like lines and dots, but with a good understanding of what they're trying to do, you can start to piece together why they think that way. Understand that, and you can make a bit of headway with them, and even get them to own up to flaws in their own positions if you're respectful and careful about it.

Meanwhile, a stupid lefty goes in without even trying to properly understand the mind map of their opponents. It's like the political version of the breakfast question with them. They base a lot of their decisions based on personal emotional response, so they're not as logical - there's still an underlying matrix, but if you don't know a lot about the idiot in question, you're flying blind. They're much more likely to ignore new data or alter a position when they are proven to be wrong, and way more likely to be an asshole about it because their positions are way more likely to be based on emotion.

Putting it differently: If you can get a dumb righty, even a religious nutter, into a discussion where they agree to a general set of rules, odds are good you can make something resembling headway, and even if you can't get them to see fault in their positions, you can get them to admit the point of your own perspective, and sometimes, even make headway with them.

Dumb lefties will generally not agree to enter the discussion in the first place, but if they do, they'll try to find wiggle room around every single rule you've laid down, and you are infinitely less likely to make anything regarding headway with them.

Putting it differently: I have had vastly more successful conversations with bible-thumpers who believe stupid shit than I have anyone in the Social Justice sphere or whatever the fuck sphere Dev inhabits, and barring unforeseen circumstances, that is not something I expect will change in my lifetime.
 
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Putting it differently: I have had vastly more successful conversations with bible-thumpers who believe stupid shit than I have anyone in the Social Justice sphere or whatever the fuck sphere Dev inhabits, and barring unforeseen circumstances, that is not something I expect will change in my lifetime.
Distinction without a difference. The practical result is people abandon attempting to understand the religious road map entirely, hence the rise of New Atheism. Even after Harris showed how absolutely ass he is in thinking, it didn't really translate into a return to Christianity. Christianity today is more like a Con Inc. method of control where they have the same motivations as the Satanic Panic people, but have to hide their power level.
 
I think it's more of a problem of optics, bible-thumpers destroyed their reputation and became known as the gay-hating-fun-police which cemented libertarians as the defenders of entertainment and protectors of gay rights.

It became a popularity game with the normies, no one cared what the government was actually doing, where the money was being spent, what programs and laws were being implemented. It was just which side let them indulge in mindless consumerism.

Seriously, if the leftists hadn't gone down the route of ruining the entertainment industry too, people like Dev would never have gone against them since they agree with most of their policies.
 
Distinction without a difference. The practical result is people abandon attempting to understand the religious road map entirely, hence the rise of New Atheism. Even after Harris showed how absolutely ass he is in thinking, it didn't really translate into a return to Christianity. Christianity today is more like a Con Inc. method of control where they have the same motivations as the Satanic Panic people, but have to hide their power level.
Fair points all. Lord knows we've seen the crazier lefties become the entirely same brand of intolerant, proving horseshoe theory in action.

I think it's more of a problem of optics, bible-thumpers destroyed their reputation and became known as the gay-hating-fun-police which cemented libertarians as the defenders of entertainment and protectors of gay rights.

It became a popularity game with the normies, no one cared what the government was actually doing, where the money was being spent, what programs and laws were being implemented. It was just which side let them indulge in mindless consumerism.

Seriously, if the leftists hadn't gone down the route of ruining the entertainment industry too, people like Dev would never have gone against them since they agree with most of their policies.
Very much true as well.
 
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