Dexter Franchise - Tonight's the night

[Samuel Fuller]

Me and my dad crack up and make midget jokes whenever the new Dexter trailer shows Peter Dinklege. I can't take him seriously as an intimidating character. Just imagine him running at you with a knife; *Mr. Krabs walking noise*

My wife and I watched Death at a Funeral the night before we saw Dinklage's first appearance in Resurrection, and we kept cracking up because of what he does in that movie. (Not spoiling it, as it would ruin a hilarious surprise in that movie)

 

[Bâtard Consanguine]

Sucks for that random guy Lady Vengeance picked up, he avoided the cock and ball torture but he's going to be forever assumed to be a rapist.

 

[frozen_runner]

Something just occurred to me RE: the setup for this season...

1. Angela takes the credit for shooting Dexter at the end of New Blood even though Harrison did it.
2. Dexter does NOT die, and she would have known that.
3. Dexter is in a coma for over two months, and when he wakes up, he finds out Angela left town with her daughter, basically giving him another chance at life.
4. Allegedly, Angela thinks that Sergeant Logan shooting wildly into the cell Dexter was being held in and hitting the ceiling means Dexter has an airtight self defense case, so there's no reason to charge him with anything. (That's ignoring that they could easily tell Logan was restrained by Dexter from behind by the evidence at the scene and was almost certainly defending himself from a guy who clearly attacked him and had a motive to do so. She was not the only person who would have investigated this incident.)
5. Somehow this all adds up to no investigation into Angela's alleged shooting of Dexter (with a hunting rifle that wasn't hers instead of her police issue sidearm in a different caliber...)??? There's no way any police inquiry would be over in less than 2 months. Why would law enforcement let her leave? Are we to believe the only law enforcement that investigated this stuff was doofy Teddy from Iron Lake PD???

I'm enjoying Resurrection for what it is, but it's clear the writers had to find a way to write around the definitive ending they had created for the character at the end of New Blood. The above is some really weak shit.

As for Resurrection so far:

• Dexter should have gotten some of that Lady Vengussy when he had the chance. What a mudercel.
• Why are serial killers walking around using cellphones like they don't know they're 24/7/365 tracking devices? Why would Prater be cool with Ponytail Guy calling his fucking family from his place on his personal cell? Why would he allow anyone on the premises with a cellphone? Couldn't that correlation of their presence there be used against him later in an investigation?
• How in the fuck did Dexter just happen to be following Harrison when he was going into the police department? What luck!
• How is Dexter's subterfuge with the planted watch going to hold up when there's no record of Mia having been in the hotel? They would definitely have her on camera somewhere... unless she magically knew about the dead rapist because she's female Batman, I guess, and she showed up to cosmically punish him, coincidentally avoiding all the cameras in a place she'd never been?
• How in the fuck did Prater get all of this insane serial killer... not just "memorabilia" but outright evidence? I don't care how much money he has, that's not possible.
• The little 3 second recreation of John Wayne Gacey dressed as Pogo was in poor taste. Yes, even in a show like this.
• I'm making another guess: Prater is a serial killer himself (he does what he does because he wants friends but also to have total control over other killers), and he's a cannibal. The dinner scenes give off big Hannibal (TV show) vibes, and, aside from being a funny gag, there's some reason Dexter is being spared by the plot from eating Prater's meat-based meals.
• WHY IS DEXTER STILL USING HIS REAL NAME?

This show is still meh. Shouldn't have happened at all after New Blood. Will I be desperate enough after this is over to actually watch Original Sin? Stay tuned!

 

[Paradox Mystic]

@frozen_runner

I think it's reasonable when they were sitting in the writers' room deciding what to do for the new series, they decided to pretend 90% of New Blood didn't happen except for what they feel Batista and Harrison needs also throwing out details from the original series they could have expanded on/at least brought up.

I have been optimistic about the show so far except for feeling like we're also only 1-2 episodes from Dexter beginning a bad end. Maybe they don't have enough episodes per season to give it some more space to relax a little. The last few episodes have made me hate Harrison more and got me thinking I hope they do a Harrison spinoff so it can crash so they use Harrison less in other series.

I wonder if we're still potentially getting a Trinity Killer spinoff, and someone must have considered a Doakes spinoff showing him doing some military work and changing to being a cop.

 

[soulgains]

The show went from being an almost American Psycho stylized novel adaption about a self righteous serial killer with questionable morality and methods to an absurd caper about a superhuman vigilante that can survive death and walk around without a disguise in New York City while law enforcement is actively searching for him. Resurrection is one of those so bad its good shows for me, but I'll always lament what it could've been if they had better writers that actually progressed the story to a logical, final conclusion.

 

[frozen_runner]

The show went from being an almost American Psycho stylized novel adaption about a self righteous serial killer with questionable morality and methods to an absurd caper about a superhuman vigilante that can survive death and walk around without a disguise in New York City while law enforcement is actively searching for him. Resurrection is one of those so bad its good shows for me, but I'll always lament what it could've been if they had better writers that actually progressed the story to a logical, final conclusion.

See, I don't understand the negative reaction to New Blood's ending because it was a logical (the logic of the characterization), final (...) conclusion to the story so far.

New Blood wisely does not tell us how to feel about Dexter's actions. (The original show, for its flaws, also rarely did that. Showing all of Dexter's killings and his cleanup procedures in a detached, matter-of-fact way was smart.) So, by the end of the show, as the audience is seeing things through Harrison's eyes and witnessing morally troubling murders like Logan's, it becomes undeniable just how insane and immoral the entire situation is. And a prolific serial killer like Dexter, regardless of who was he killing, could not reasonably ask for a better ending than accepting death at the hands of a son who was being released from Dexter's own fate by killing his father. In dying, Dexter is also finally released from the grip of his own "dark passenger," and Harrison, left with his father's written words of love and longing, has the closest thing he will ever have to a normal connection (at a distance) with the man. Some people are made better by memory than they were in life.

But no, everyone was mad. Why? Dexter is our main character, but do we really want him to get away with it? Any story where a murderous vigilante gets away with the killing has to ask bigger questions about morality and the society they want to live in unless the story ends right there. And this was always the central tension of the series: we want Dex to get away with it because he's our guy, but Pinocchio also can't keep living unless he becomes "a real boy." We want that for him. We can perhaps overlook the "righteous" killings if he can do that. But he can't. He's limited by his nature... right?

I'm enjoying Resurrection, and have enjoyed all of it all along, because of the character study of Dexter himself. That's where it shines. Maybe people hated New Blood because it deviated from its focus on Dexter himself, but characters need to grow and change, and dealing with his son is a logical way to do that. (And I don't want to hear that Harrison is an annoying character or has an annoying actor. That kid is great in the role.)

 

[Paradox Mystic]

I wonder how big the divide is between people who want to see Dexter dead or in jail, or people who want some sort of mildly happy ending for the TV version of Dexter. Most of the suggestions I've seen from fan comments are saying Dexter is super evil so he should die not a lot of people making the Luigi argument.

 

[Fallen Preacher]

I wonder how big the divide is between people who want to see Dexter dead or in jail, or people who want some sort of mildly happy ending for the TV version of Dexter. Most of the suggestions I've seen from fan comments are saying Dexter is super evil so he should die not a lot of people making the Luigi argument.

I hated the ending of the show... and still do, it was lazy writing after season 4, but... I was happy with him ending up as a lumberjack years after the episode aired. Dexter, stuck in a living hell, with the urge to kill constantly gnawing at him as far from paradise as you can get without it being a frozen fucking tundra.

Then they moved him to a frozen fucking tundra.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

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I hated the ending of the show... and still do, it was lazy writing after season 4, but... I was happy with him ending up as a lumberjack years after the episode aired. Dexter, stuck in a living hell, with the urge to kill constantly gnawing at him as far from paradise as you can get without it being a frozen fucking tundra.

Then they moved him to a frozen fucking tundra.

The thing that got me about New Blood was that moving to New York State seemed way too risky for Dexter. If he'd taken off for Alaska or the Yukon, that makes more sense, especially the Yukon, as Canada won't extradite anyone who would face the death penalty and that would be a safeguard for dexter if anyone ever found him. I guess the writers just aren't that smart.

 

[frozen_runner]

Dexter, stuck in a living hell, with the urge to kill constantly gnawing at him as far from paradise as you can get without it being a frozen fucking tundra.

But that was never the intention of the writers. (Which you could be excused for not realizing since they wrote a very confusing, stupid ending to the original show.) The point, they basically said, was that Dexter needs sequels can't bring himself to commit suicide because he's a psychopath, and psychos don't do that, so instead he moved somewhere in the Midwest (later retconned as northern New York) like a lot of serial killers do and for the same reasons: to avoid the eyes of the law, and to have the option to kill without being caught.

EDIT: Never mind, I'm an idiot as proven below.

The thing that got me about New Blood was that moving to New York State seemed way too risky for Dexter. If he'd taken off for Alaska or the Yukon, that makes more sense, especially the Yukon, as Canada won't extradite anyone who would face the death penalty and that would be a safeguard for dexter if anyone ever found him. I guess the writers just aren't that smart.

It's not that they're stupid. It's that they wrote themselves into a corner with the ending of the original series, and they didn't have the integrity (or perhaps creativity) to stick with the original intention. If the job is "write a sequel story to Dexter," how the fuck do they do that? Well, they might just have to fudge some details. (Which they are doing noticeably on Resurrection, too.)

I hate nothing more than a retcon. Have some integrity, stick to the established "facts," and write your way out of it.

EDIT: Fuck me, if you watch the original scene you can see a New York emblem on a truck. That was always the plan

Maybe the thinking was Dexter wanted the remote living but also the option to escape to Canada if he needed to.

Or maybe it's like I imagined the Walking Dead writer's room, where 8 of the 10 writers are smart and 2 of them are stupid as fuck, but they're friends with the showrunner and can't be fired.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

For fuck’s sake, can we not do retarded fanfiction?

WhAt If DeXtEr MoVeD tO the YuKoN?!

Nigga who the fuck would want to watch that. Dexter was always about revenge porn and rooting for him killing people that normies would love to see dead but also believe in society. It’s escapist fantasy, and he escaped in his fantasy and he’s free to murder people. And by the end of the season, he’s somehow gonna get out of whatever bad situation he finds himself into so he can go on and kill. And you’ll keep watching.

Stop being faggots about muh realism.

 

[UnKillFill]

For fuck’s sake, can we not do retarded fanfiction?

WhAt If DeXtEr MoVeD tO the YuKoN?!

Nigga who the fuck would want to watch that. Dexter was always about revenge porn and rooting for him killing people that normies would love to see dead but also believe in society. It’s escapist fantasy, and he escaped in his fantasy and he’s free to murder people. And by the end of the season, he’s somehow gonna get out of whatever bad situation he finds himself into so he can go on and kill. And you’ll keep watching.

Stop being faggots about muh realism.

You gotta read my "Dexter in Space" fanfic. It's a lot like this season, except he's putting space aliens and shit under his table. He gets away from earth to beat charges of being the bay harbor butcher, and works for an asteroid mining company. It's p. good.

 

[frozen_runner]

Stop being faggots about muh realism.

No

You gotta read my "Dexter in Space" fanfic. It's a lot like this season, except he's putting space aliens and shit under his table. He gets away from earth to beat charges of being the bay harbor butcher, and works for an asteroid mining company. It's p. good.

God help me... I would watch it.