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Dice Scum, the series.
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I'd pictured him without the ponytail, but ya know what? That ponytail is a megaweeb right of passage. Keep it.
Those working designs are niiice. I can try to draw more designwork if/when I get home (hopefully at a decent hour).
Those working designs are niiice. I can try to draw more designwork if/when I get home (hopefully at a decent hour).
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I pictured Stephen less as J-Pop weeb and more as Bushido-weeb (or whatever the 'katanas are underpowered in d20' weebs are). But, he's essentially not "my" character, and this is a collective process. It's like he knows going full top-knot is stupid, so he just opts for the long-ass anime ponytail.
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He could always alternate between the two, tbh. Whichever one's easier to draw/animate can be the default/usual, I suppose. Admittedly, I know little of weebs beyond the "kyaa~~! I collect totes kawaii desu anime body pillows and Japan is so much better than America" variety....
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We probably need to flesh out Aidan more. Chris is probably as fleshed out as he can, and we're ever increasing Stephen's character. Almost to the point that he's becoming the central character. Might be an interesting take. Rich, sheltered life, coming to grips that there are... others... out there.
I don't think Stephen would be this bad:
Although in a finale episode, maybe some Cobra Kai showdown for "the game", a tournament that one of them get to, Stephen runs into a loli... forever rocking his world...
I don't think Stephen would be this bad:
Although in a finale episode, maybe some Cobra Kai showdown for "the game", a tournament that one of them get to, Stephen runs into a loli... forever rocking his world...
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Aidan's kind of an everyman at the moment -- what keeps him from being one is solely his trans status, right now. Definitely need to flesh that guy out. Give him interests, character traits -- something that'll distinguish him from a vanilla protagonist.
Hell, what is his personality right now? He's -- fair? Just wants to live his life? Boring. Give that boy some character flaws -- ones that we can't shove into a closet (no pun intended) at our convenience or the convenience of the plot.
Hell, what is his personality right now? He's -- fair? Just wants to live his life? Boring. Give that boy some character flaws -- ones that we can't shove into a closet (no pun intended) at our convenience or the convenience of the plot.
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Honestly I'm more blank on Tram than I am Aidan. Aidan at least is sort of a leader figure and organized, at least compared to the other three. He also is interested in NASA and the history of that program (it being a goal in life for him to work at it as a designer and builder), as well as about the heavenly bodies that orbit our star and beyond. Another interest I gave him was that he's a bit mechanically inclined; he and his dad talk about cars, trucks, and motorcycles at times, and he takes care of his venerable machine himself.
Tram is a Cham-American Hindu who lives alone in his apartment and also happens to need to live cheap. He picked a troll army not just for cool factor, but because they are a high cost efficient unit since he don't have as much cash to fling around or borrow as the rest. He's not as in love with his classes as Aidan, but being an engineer and architect sounded interesting. Especially consideringg that he might one day be able to build awesome as shit megastructures like the Dubai tower if he gets good enough.
Flaws are a point, since we (and I) haven't really thought them out at the moment.
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There has to be a "Old Man Henderson" episode, where Stephen or NotADF! are GMing, and piss off Chris when they kill his character in a fit of "DON'T QUESTION ME!". Chris then uses his knowledge of the game system to create an insane munchkin character and breaks the GM's campaign.
And then he tells the others what he did and how they can do it, so the GM ends up with an entire party of overpowered munchkins who are wasting Cthulhu-spawn, Chaos Barbarians, and the armies of several countries.
And then he tells the others what he did and how they can do it, so the GM ends up with an entire party of overpowered munchkins who are wasting Cthulhu-spawn, Chaos Barbarians, and the armies of several countries.
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I don't want to give him any flaws based on his gender identity. I don't have the mindset, so consider our FtM's "consultants" on any anxieties or whatever when it comes to that. Maybe he has some form of agitation that he can't "talk shop" with many folks, even Tram, who shares classes. So, yeah, the game is awesome and all, people are chill, there's a good group, but he has to wait to go see dad to talk about fixing engines and stuff.
Would the "spectre" of being discovered be a cause of anxiety? One that might lead to frequent use of a tranquilizer? He doesn't go chasing highs (or lows), but whenever he has his own, um, triggering, he goes right for the bottle.
Is there some tragedy that happened in his life? Something that he blames himself for and that has nothing to do with gender identity?
Or maybe he did go through the Stephie "Memememe" phase until he had, say, a cis friend die of cancer, the one friend he at the time trusted? Shocked him that there's more to life? Maybe he somehow blames himself for not being there for his friend? I dunno. Too deep?
I think it would be funny if Aiden's outing comes from a tucute M2F he knew back where he used to live, and she happens to be Aidan's opponent in one of the tournament games at a convention.
Tram is more elusive to me. We'll has him out more.
Need to also do some thinking of the name of the store, the owner (who pretty much has to be in the pilot), where the town is. A friend back home suggested a near-rural South Carolina town. Explains the half-abandoned mall with shitty infrastructure. The mall could abut a farm that has "evil goats" that have been responsible for eating irresponsible magic players' cards. Beyond that, we don't have to explore more until we fire off the pilot.
Would the "spectre" of being discovered be a cause of anxiety? One that might lead to frequent use of a tranquilizer? He doesn't go chasing highs (or lows), but whenever he has his own, um, triggering, he goes right for the bottle.
Is there some tragedy that happened in his life? Something that he blames himself for and that has nothing to do with gender identity?
Or maybe he did go through the Stephie "Memememe" phase until he had, say, a cis friend die of cancer, the one friend he at the time trusted? Shocked him that there's more to life? Maybe he somehow blames himself for not being there for his friend? I dunno. Too deep?
I think it would be funny if Aiden's outing comes from a tucute M2F he knew back where he used to live, and she happens to be Aidan's opponent in one of the tournament games at a convention.
Tram is more elusive to me. We'll has him out more.
Need to also do some thinking of the name of the store, the owner (who pretty much has to be in the pilot), where the town is. A friend back home suggested a near-rural South Carolina town. Explains the half-abandoned mall with shitty infrastructure. The mall could abut a farm that has "evil goats" that have been responsible for eating irresponsible magic players' cards. Beyond that, we don't have to explore more until we fire off the pilot.
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Threat of being outed is aways a worry, and depending on how far along he is dysphoria is likely an issue too, he's been on hormones for a few years, but has he had chest surgery? If not he'll be binding, which can cause breathing issues, and rib damage.
In non-trans things I see him as the straight-man to all the weirdos surrounding him, wanting to join in but not getting as caught up (obsessive) in the whole thing as they are, maybe a bit up-tight even.
Depending on how comedy focused we want to make this maybe the friend is just injured, although honestly I don't think a tragic backstory is needed, he's just a completely normal dude who happens to be trans, (but really, as opposed to Assigned Male's attempt at using that tagline)
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One character should be an absolute crap DM, and the one time they host a game the game world should be animated as stick figure style.
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What HinRai said. He sounds like he'll be going along with their antics rather than actively seeking to participate in them -- also, dysphoria/what comes from it will vary from person to person and... yeah. We'll need to decide how dysphoric he is and how far along he is in regards to transition. I know shit all about hormones, unfortunately (I'm still learning about the process and very closeted otherwise), but as for binding -- it might depend on his chest size. Less likely to have complications if he's a small-breasted person and binds with a binder rather than bandages or other things you shouldn't bind with (someone correct me if I'm wrong, and I'll crawl into the shame corner and correct this post).
I dunno. He could be someone who realized how cringeworthy the tucute/tumblr mindset was on his own terms after a few months/years of tumblr-style SJWishness. It happens.
I dunno. He could be someone who realized how cringeworthy the tucute/tumblr mindset was on his own terms after a few months/years of tumblr-style SJWishness. It happens.
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Aidan DM: Typical western fantasy animation.
Stephen DM: Mix of Shonen Jump and suibokuga ink and color painting.
Tram: Possibly the Korean style that made Avatar, Korra, Boondocks, etc.
Chris: Kind of a blend of styles, but every character stat appears by the characters, every dice roll materializes over their heads...
Edited to add: For any quirks/physical descriptions, I'm going to check my cishet privilege and allow our resident transgenders provide their consensus. Or would you rather flood us with information, and we "out" what Aidan does?
Like, it was mentioned that hormones are injected. Is there a particular injection site? Likely not in a place that would leave visible tracks. What's the half-life of the hormones? How often must they be taken? Would one panic if they suddenly lost their supply at home? People think he may be shooting smack and throws them away?
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Honestly, I would t even bring up the fact Aiden is trans until like the second or third episode(or the minisode about him), save for like subtle hints or so. This has basically become the anti-GenZed, and not shoving it in people's faces that Aiden is trans seems like a good way to go about it.
I'm not trans though, I'm just giving my opinion on it.
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The script for episode 1 is partially done. If you twisted my arm on how much of it is done, we have about 3 pages or so on what I've been compiling on Word and I'd say we're about 1/3 to maybe 2/5s done with the first draft. @Orthodox Chrischanity and I got a decent amount of it done in a sharp set of co-op writing and brainstorming sessions over the hour, and the characters being written are coming more and more into focus.
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A flaw for Aiden could be that he lashes out a bit too harshly at being accused of something, due to his insecurities of his group finding out he's trans, fearing they might want nothing more to do with him. They may argue a lot, but he does genuinely like the majority of them. So he keeps a lot of things private and is slow to open up.
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Perhaps adding to that is some kind of need to do things himself with little help, and thus it gets grating if Chris spouts off what Aidan's own models do, or what his character can do based on race and class. Results from his mother taking the transitioning hard... but not in the rejection way. Nah, her just going overboard in protecting her child during her "sickness" phase of transition (she read that from Dr. Wikipedia's site!). As pre-op, mom's always calling, "How's my little duckling? You been taking your hormones? Do you need anything?"
I can do it myself! I can move my own models on the game board. I can add the numbers on my own dice roll...
(Edited to add: Why he's always more comfortable with dad and mechanics. Dad merely observes while Aidan fixes his engines or builds bikes.)
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The most common hormone is sustanon (which is the one I'm on) it's an intramuscular injection into the butt, so no chance people will see marks, usually people get a friend or relative to do it, but it's easy to self-inject if you're ok with needles. It's commonly called T (for testosterone) and is injected every two-four weeks depending on your metabolism and level of female hormones, and there needs to be blood tests every six months to check on that.
I don't know much about the American system, but over here it's a prescription, so going to the GP and just asking for more works,
Doing things himself could be a big thing, my mum's a bit like that, she's always suggesting things like we watch Orange is the New Black, or The Danish Girl together because they've got trans characters, trying to be supportive but not getting that I don't want my life to revolve around being trans.
(God, I'm getting powerlevelly)
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If we go with the semi-rural town in South Carolina, likely a local GP might be opposed, or Aidan doesn't know, so he takes a trip to the city to get the injections done. Anyway, so it's irrelevant, then.
I don't know much about the American system, but over here it's a prescription, so going to the GP and just asking for more works,
Thinking mom now calls him 'caterpillar', thinking it's a wonderful term that her daughter is becoming a beautiful boy butterfly. Sends care packages with cookies that have caterpillar frosting designs, little caterpillar plushes. Mom doesn't realize how childish that is.
Dad doesn't care. Maybe he's "getting the son he always wanted", and is supportive in that sense.
Anyway, diverting again. We've got our four main characters, the first group interaction is practically done, then we're going from there. Once this first scene is done, we'll start sending lines out. Break out your Audacity and good microphones, folks.
One final character for the first episode we forgot to think about: The store owner. I think he's just a cashier jockey. Veritable encyclopedia of comics and games, but is kind of spacey. Perhaps he's Gloria's dealer, and partakes of the wacky tabacky, himself. Folks call him "Owl-Eyes" on account of his eyebrows.
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In regards to fleshing out Stephen a bit so he's not just " lol anime nerd", I'd say he's got a severe lack of social skills. Like cannot interact with people without coming off super awkward and creep. And he's fully aware of it, but has a lot of trouble breaking that habit. So he uses his money as a means of getting people to like him and to want him to hang around. He's still way too into anime/Japanese culture, but he does still want people to talk to and whatnot.