Did Michael Jackson Do It

[Mariposa Electrique]

it honestly doesn't take much to moderate your kids till they hit puberty then tell them to report as soon as they feel assaulted. It can take responsibility to consent but takes nothing much to report.

I agree, but not every single situation is good touch bad touch. What happens when a possible bad touch in Michael's case is combined with bringing Robson and his family to the US with promises of being a megastar? What happens when you very much combine a possible bad touch, which can be spun into something else in the mind of a child with a divide and conquer scenario. What I mean by divide and conquer is Jackson pandering to the ego of each family member leaving the responsibility to continue such indulgence on a child's body. I'm sure these children wanted to keep Jackson happy, but they also wanted to keep their family members happy. It's a very complicated situation that isn't just someone's creepy, poor uncle or stranger touching their buttholes in the middle of the night. It's never that simple, which is why a lot of sex abuse victims don't come forward. As for policing children, predators always find a way around that, which is why you should never leave your children around anyone until they're at a more advanced age.


Also, the thing I never understood. Michael claimed he 'loved' his little friends, and he constantly bemoaned his lost childhood. If Michael loved his little friends, why did he intentionally introduce a ton of them to the entertainment industry like he did with Wade and Safechuck? That seems to be another element of abuse no one wants to talk about. Maybe MJ was reliving his trauma through these kids, a trauma which included molestation.

Anway, MJ could have easily told these kids and their families, "go home, and live a normal life, be a damn kid".

 

[tehpope]

BTW, "They Don't Care About Us" was made after the first round of allegations. They were, along with a lot of HIStory, were made in response to MJ's state of mind after the investigation and media scrutney around his life ATT.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Just watched the first portion of the doc. All I have to say is that these allegations can't be invented out of thin air. They're that sick. MJ liked for these guys to rub his nipples. He would tongue them. He also liked for them to spread their cheeks open wide while he masturbated. Masturbation and oral sex were tamer parts of the allegations.

 

[Hell]

He knew too much like Kennedy, Marilyn or Tupac. I don't have enough evidence, but my intuition tells me that MJ was innocent, and that the powerful people he angered fabricated rumors to destroy his life and get rid of him. As tinfoil as it sounds, he was pretty much the typical MK-Ultra victim. Even today the (Jewish) music industry gets rid of their own artists constantly.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

He knew too much like Kennedy, Marilyn or Tupac. I don't have enough evidence, but my intuition tells me that MJ was innocent, and that the powerful people he angered fabricated rumors to destroy his life and get rid of him. As tinfoil as it sounds, he was pretty much the typical MK-Ultra victim. Even today the (Jewish) music industry gets rid of their own artists constantly.

He was going to reveal information about the music industry and Sony, wasn't he? This clip was always weird to me.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Occam's razor, people. Occam's razor.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

Cory Feldman also recently reitterated that mj never molested him and he never saw it happen to anyone else. The guy accuses almost everyone of being a pedo so that says something.

Feldman also made up stories about Corey Haim about his abuse that has been debunked by Haim's friends and family. He's not a person to be trusted at this point when it comes to testimonies.

 

[Dizzydent]

I watched the whole first part and some of it twice just to help myself really guage these guys body language because I'm always suspicious of metoo kind of stuff. These guys are my age and they had real honesty and they don't even seem like they have any ill feelings towards mj. That's very common because the abuse apparently started very young but it wasn't just a quick thing, it was their childhood so after rewatching it it was easy to see how they've compartmentalized it all as just something that happened and a part of life. There are also so many details that would take some sick savants to get all these entirely separate families to concoct such tales together and then the photo and audio and mail evidence is too much.

Also he is totally 100% textbook definition pedo. Most pedos don't ever feel like they were able to grow up or never had a childhood and feel vulnerable and therefore only feel comfortable in the presence of other vulnerable people and he got to live his youth vicariously through these little boys and discover his sexuality through these little boys in an environment where he didn't feel threatened not giving a fuck about the impact it was having on anyone else cause, as is so popular with lol cows, the whole "oh woah is me, you don't know my pain and so I act out" trumps everyone else's lives and feelings.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

After watching the first part it’s pretty convincing, I didn’t realise Micheal spent that much time with the young kids, although the sexual stuff can’t be corroborated.

The testimony from the mother was weird in that she didn’t immediately see it as inappropriate Jackson wanted to sleep in the same room as her 7 year son, regularly spent hours talking with him on the phone and not even questioning things after Jackson said he wanted to take him away for a year and got mad when she said no, although I guess avarice and the desire for your child to be famous does blind some parents to the obvious.

Also reading what other people are saying if Jackson was a paedo and did what was accused of then Macaulay Caulkin could just be a red herring in that he was already a child celebrity when Jackson met him so he’d know it’d be too risky to groom him and just befriended him.

 

[Volvo240]

Did anyone else nearly puke during the doc? Like last thing I need to hear is "Micheal Jackson+ 7 year old+ rim job"
Where's the Mr. Yuck react when you need one?

 

[Medicated]

Feldman also made up stories about Corey Haim about his abuse that has been debunked by Haim's friends and family. He's not a person to be trusted at this point when it comes to testimonies.

People will believe what they want to believe. If multiple child stars come out and say nothing happened, then he must've molested other kids because they were too high profile. If Jackson pays off a family, it's proof of his guilt. If an FBI investigation goes for 10 years and finds nothing concrete and Jackson is found not guilty, then he must've been too powerful.

Basically you've already decided. And almost nothing will convince you otherwise.

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

Did Nick Bate do it?

 

[W00K #17]

attractive as children

What fam?

 

[CumDumpster]

Hollywood is famous for hiding their paedophiles.
When they attack a star as a paedophile, then it's highly likely that they're not and have/had success instead.
Let's not forget that Sony Music (the label Michael Jackson signed to) didn't defend the guy. This, as there are lesser musicians that always get protected by their labels.

It comes down to two things. Evan Chandler wanted fame and money, Sony wanted the Beatles and Elvis discographies for less than the price that Jackson was asking for them (There's also the fact that Jackson owned part of Sony at the time).

 

[Lemmingwise]

ust watched the first portion of the doc. All I have to say is that these allegations can't be invented out of thin air. They're that sick. MJ liked for these guys to rub his nipples. He would tongue them. He also liked for them to spread their cheeks open wide while he masturbated. Masturbation and oral sex were tamer parts of the allegations.

Plenty of liars have no lack of imagination. Squatcobbler.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

People will believe what they want to believe. If multiple child stars come out and say nothing happened, then he must've molested other kids because they were too high profile. If Jackson pays off a family, it's proof of his guilt. If an FBI investigation goes for 10 years and finds nothing concrete and Jackson is found not guilty, then he must've been too powerful.

Basically you've already decided. And almost nothing will convince you otherwise.

At this point I don't think he touched famous child actors but the ones who were left at his house and having sleepovers with him? It certainly looks that way.

 

[BobsSpergers]

I watched the doc and gotdamn were they not kidding when they said it's hard to watch. I'm usually wary of this kind of stuff but I can't see any reasonable explanation for the weird shit he was constantly doing. Like that recorded 'interview' MJ had with Safechuck on the way back from Hawaii. Kid asks MJ what his favorite part of Hawaii was and MJ replies "Being with you." The only situation I can think of in which that would be a normal response is coming back from honeymoon with your fiance.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Plenty of liars have no lack of imagination. Squatcobbler.

There's a reason your username has the word lemming in it.

I watched the doc and gotdamn were they not kidding when they said it's hard to watch. I'm usually wary of this kind of stuff but I can't see any reasonable explanation for the weird shit he was constantly doing. Like that recorded 'interview' MJ had with Safechuck on the way back from Hawaii. Kid asks MJ what his favorite part of Hawaii was and MJ replies "Being with you." The only situation I can think of in which that would be a normal response is coming back from honeymoon with your fiance.

Safechuck seemed very fucked up from the entire experience. Can you believe, in exchange for licking his butthole, Michael only gave him jewelry and a wedding band.......WTF?

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Come on, we all know he did. Is this a serious question? Yes, the obvious pedophile constantly being accused of similar acts of pedophilia by various different people is a pedophile.

 

[GenderCop]

I've always felt that Micheal did do shit that crossed the line of sexual appropriateness with boys. But did it because of how fucked up in the head he was from literally being cannibalized body, soul and mind from a young age by his family and the media.

Micheal Jackson's personal life is a fucking train wreck and not always because of his own doing.

interesting Jermaine is sitting there in the video; he was the family heartthrob when they were all young.

when the kids were on tour, Jermaine, Jackie & Tito would bring girls (plural, lots of them) into hotel rooms the 5 boys all shared. little Marlon and Michael would... just watch.

later, Marlon joined in. the youngest, Michael - was left, and he never joined in.

he talked about it all his life, how he couldn't escape the noise, the nastiness of it - he said it made him feel dirty. he would be EXHAUSTED from strenuous stage-shows but still unable to sleep with all his brothers carousing & making sex-racket, since it was fairly constant. he hated it & often said so. one thing MJ loved when he got older & they started making serious money was he could finally get his OWN HOTEL ROOM.

Marlon never talked about it as traumatic. but Michael (so much younger) was clearly traumatized by these sleeping arrangements.

I think for the rest of his life he thought of SEX as some nasty, noisy, sleazy act of grownups, like his brothers in hotel rooms with women they randomly collected out of the audience. by contrast, children are quiet, sweet, not a lot of sweating & carrying-on. They are filled with wide-eyed wonder instead.

in short, kids are diminutive & controllable, while those women w/Jermaine et. al. certainly were not. in fact - these experiences are so different from what he had repeatedly witnessed, perhaps he didn't see perceive it as "sex" at all.

But this is where I think his problems started.... & unfortunately, why I believe it is true.

loved the early motown records, some of the best pop music ever recorded. the pressure on MJ might be compared to being an Olympic champion over a decade or more.