Did the Confederate States of America do nothing wrong?

[Breadbassket]

Does this country deserve to have itself and the people who fought for it vilified?

 

[Smug Chuckler]

They were racists who want to keep the poor black man enslaved forever.

 

[DumbDude43]

they did one thing wrong: they lost the war.

 

[Judge Holden]

They fought to defend the noblest of american traditions. For that we must forever honor them.

 

[TomClancy'sSpinningCorpse]

Well for one they fought against unfair taxation, which is like the most American thing ever.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

We have to agree that if it was all about slavery that they were right.

1. Assume that Confederate States allow slavery because blacks are less than human
2. Assume that all Confederate troops fought for slavery and that's bad
3. Correlation, assume all Union troops fought against slavery and that's good
4. Therefore, blacks should be eternally grateful for the northern white man who fought against slavery
5. Instead, blacks are demanding reparations from northern cities and hating white people
6. Therefore, if it were about slavery black people are exactly the ungrateful subhumans the South assumed they were
7. The South was right.

Or we can assume that it wasn't about slavery, and we don't have turbo iconoclasm at the least.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

They did quite a few things wrong, that's why the CSA lost the Civil War.

The South was so changed by the war itself that I don't believe even if they had won their independence the slave economy would last for much longer. There was no possibility of going back to the way things were in the antebellum era.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

sheeeeeeeeeit white boy

 

[eatler]

Does this question come from a friend?

 

[Android raptor]

They did quite a few things wrong, that's why the CSA lost the Civil War.

The South was so changed by the war itself that I don't believe even if they had won their independence the slave economy would last for much longer. There was no possibility of going back to the way things were in the antebellum era.

Also shit sucked for everyone in the Antebellum era except the wealthiest

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Also shit sucked for everyone in the Antebellum era except the wealthiest

Which is why you had regions of strong pro-Union sentiment in the parts of the South unsuitable for plantation agriculture (more specifically suitable for cotton and sugarcane plantations which required huge amounts of labor). This was especially the case in western Virginia, northern Georgia and eastern Tennessee.

Not enough to stop secession in any state but enough of a force that West Virginia itself seceded from the CSA in 1863.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Yes. They lost.

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

They voted democrat

 

[The Gene Genie]

1) They lost, so yes, they did a lot wrong. Militarily they hit a lot of victories early on but failed to adapt. Lee's campaign into the North that ultimately ended at Gettysburg was a decisive failure and a poor strategy, although I can understand why he did it.
2) Their primary cause for secession, regardless of post-war justification of Southern honor and their right to exist, was deliberately framed in the individual articles of secession of most of the States that comprised the Confederacy to be about slavery explicitly. As much as I don't like Negroes, slavery is wrong.

They did quite a few things wrong, that's why the CSA lost the Civil War.

The South was so changed by the war itself that I don't believe even if they had won their independence the slave economy would last for much longer. There was no possibility of going back to the way things were in the antebellum era.

It was explicitly written into their Constitution that no law which revoked the right to possess negro slaves was to be passed.

No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.

 

[TheBigRevelator]

Also shit sucked for everyone in the Antebellum era except the wealthiest

This. My family was part of the planter class & I can definitely affirm this.

 

[Gangstalker #32194]

did the technologically inferior pretend state glowop founded by jews and cousinfucking aristocrats that eventually started recruiting niggers into its army when it ran out of white people to throw into the meat grinder do anything wrong?

nahhhhhhhhh

 

[WelperHelper99]

1) They lost, so yes, they did a lot wrong. Militarily they hit a lot of victories early on but failed to adapt. Lee's campaign into the North that ultimately ended at Gettysburg was a decisive failure and a poor strategy, although I can understand why he did it.
2) Their primary cause for secession, regardless of post-war justification of Southern honor and their right to exist, was deliberately framed in the individual articles of secession of most of the States that comprised the Confederacy to be about slavery explicitly. As much as I don't like Negroes, slavery is wrong.

It was explicitly written into their Constitution that no law which revoked the right to possess negro slaves was to be passed.

Agreed. Militarily, they fucked up. They were never able to truly counter the navy, so importing weapons was a nightmare. They should have focused on that first. And again, they were fighting for slavery no matter how you put it.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

The South was so changed by the war itself that I don't believe even if they had won their independence the slave economy would last for much longer. There was no possibility of going back to the way things were in the antebellum era.

They were never meant to. The slave economy of the South was an absolute necessity only because it was a burgeoning nation with few sources of labor and income. It wasn't meant to last forever. Many of the slaves who fought for the Confederacy were promised land.

 

[Stan]

Does this country deserve to have itself and the people who fought for it vilified?

Yes. I like 'countries' that didn't get burnt to the ground, and don't start fights they can't finish.

They did quite a few things wrong, that's why the CSA lost the Civil War.

The South was so changed by the war itself that I don't believe even if they had won their independence the slave economy would last for much longer. There was no possibility of going back to the way things were in the antebellum era.

?? If it would have been so easy then whence the war?

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

?? If it would have been so easy then whence the war?

Ending slavery in an independent Confederacy doesn't mean it would have been an easy process by any means. The "right" to own slaves was enshrined in its constitution unlike the US Constitution, and I don't think there was any way to actually amend it to eliminate that provision.

The sole purpose for the Confederacy's existence was to protect slavery, it was the sole reason for secession and the sole reason for the South's desire for independence. There were certainly people who supported the Confederacy for other reasons or out of loyalty to their state vs. the federal government but slavery was the over-arching issue.

It undoubtedly would have led to another civil war or even worse socialist or Communist agitation since slavery is about the most extreme exploitation of the working class possible.