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[Steamboat_Bill]

Oh my God, I was getting worried I was kinda crazy for thinking I might've been the only one who even had an iota of enjoyment out of that movie. It's super fucking weird, kinda uncomfortable at times as well, and yet it's fascinating how that movie even made it to theaters and then was just forgotten about. I can't even believe my mom thought it was good enough to get on DVD, it got crude at times.

The TV show wasn't even on by the time the film came out, I remember. But I saw it in the theaters anyway and I liked it. It had a great cast and a great art style.

Calling it "Doug's 1st Movie" before knowing if there'd even be sequels was a dumb move as well. I can only assume that decision was influenced by 4Kids giving the first Pokemon movie the title "Pokemon the First Movie". Though at least 4Kids had the benefit of knowing that the second Pokemon movie would premiere in Japan before the first movie would see it's international release.

I don't know what the deal was with that, but you can tell it was supposed to be a direct-to-video release because the animation's the same as it was on the show. The Rugrats movie had theatrical-quality animation. Even the CatDog short in front of it did.

(When Nick bumped up their TV movies to theatrical releases they had the decency to make the animation theatrical-quality.)

Jason Marsden is a beautiful man. Still looks good at his age and hes not involved in the Hollywood scene anymore since he moved to Nashville.

I still remember when he did promos for the Disney Channel. I guess you could say Max was his star making role? (Aside from appearing on Baywatch and voicing Thackary Binx in Hocus Pocus)

He popped up as several characters in Skyrim. I almost did a double take.

I met him at a convention a while ago. Really, really nice guy.

 

[Trilby]

It's been ages since I saw A Goofy Movie but I remember liking it a lot as a kid, it was weird and interesting to see a Disney cartoon version of normal world places like motels and big box stores.

Just making Goofy a Kmart portrait studio photographer did amused me when I first saw this.

An Extremely Goofy Movie is good as well.

That seems to be the consensus of the sequel. It was just as it should be, good (unless you were one of those that wanted Max to still be with Roxanne in it).

I don't know what the deal was with that, but you can tell it was supposed to be a direct-to-video release because the animation's the same as it was on the show. The Rugrats movie had theatrical-quality animation. Even the CatDog short in front of it did.

That is true. The earliest teasers for the Doug film from '98 was calling it a different title, though it looks like that kept shifting around a bit.

Spoiler

(When Nick bumped up their TV movies to theatrical releases they had the decency to make the animation theatrical-quality.)

They certainly took their time there.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Just making Goofy a Kmart portrait studio photography did amused me when I first saw this.


That seems to be the consensus of the sequel. It was just as it should be, good (unless you were one of those that wanted Max to still be with Roxanne in it).


That is true. The earliest teasers for the Doug film from '98 was calling it a different title, though it looks like that kept shifting around a bit.

Spoiler

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WaGRNOXECmY:284https://youtube.com/watch?v=VZX7Lfz8xwEhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ahnbUbWlkGs

They certainly took their time there.

And then, it became the only Doug movie ever.

 

[neverendingmidi]

And then, it became the only Doug movie ever.

How did Doug end up Disney? I could've sworn it was part of the early Nicktoons along with "Rugrats" and "Ren and Stimpy". Granted I never cared for it much, but was there some incestuous relationship between Disney and Nickelodeon?

 

[Trilby]

How did Doug end up Disney? I could've sworn it was part of the early Nicktoons along with "Rugrats" and "Ren and Stimpy". Granted I never cared for it much, but was there some incestuous relationship between Disney and Nickelodeon?

I know it had something to do with Doug's creative rights still being with Jim Jinkins' own company, Jumbo Pictures and that studio got swallowed up by Disney and Doug was officially adopted into that family.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

How did Doug end up Disney? I could've sworn it was part of the early Nicktoons along with "Rugrats" and "Ren and Stimpy". Granted I never cared for it much, but was there some incestuous relationship between Disney and Nickelodeon?

This is how it happened, essentially:

The original contract Nick signed with Jumbo Pictures said that they would own the show outright after 65 episodes were produced, otherwise the rights would return to them.

Nick only made 52 episodes, however, so when Disney came calling Jumbo Pictures was within their rights to team up with them instead. There were 65 episodes of the Disney Doug, so the merchandising rights to the property are with them now. Of course, now any appearances of the Disney Doug - such as a pair of Funko Pops I spotted at a convention - are probably only to mooch off the better-loved (and better period) Nick version.

(When Doug went into reruns alongside Rugrats, it proved equally as popular. Nick revived Rugrats because the reruns did so well, and they would have done the same for Doug if Disney hadn't beaten them to it.)

Nick still has the rights to its version of the show, however, so that's why they can still rerun it. Just about everyone involved, even Jim Jinkins, liked the Nick version better in the end... but Nick can't really use the property for merchandise, which is why it doesn't show up in their 90s retro stuff.

 

[Trilby]

This is how it happened, essentially:

The original contract Nick signed with Jumbo Pictures said that they would own the show outright after 65 episodes were produced, otherwise the rights would return to them.

Nick only made 52 episodes, however, so when Disney came calling Jumbo Pictures was within their rights to team up with them instead. There were 65 episodes of the Disney Doug, so the merchandising rights to the property are with them now. Of course, now any appearances of the Disney Doug - such as a pair of Funko Pops I spotted at a convention - are probably only to mooch off the better-loved (and better period) Nick version.

Nick still has the rights to its version of the show, however, so that's why they can still rerun it. Just about everyone involved, even Jim Jinkins, liked the Nick version better in the end... but Nick can't really use the property for merchandise, which is why it doesn't show up in their 90s retro stuff.

Yep, if only another season of 13 episodes had been produced for Nick, none of this would've happened!

 

[MysticMisty]

Nick still has the rights to its version of the show, however, so that's why they can still rerun it. Just about everyone involved, even Jim Jinkins, liked the Nick version better in the end... but Nick can't really use the property for merchandise, which is why it doesn't show up in their 90s retro stuff.

Doug wasn't my favorite Nicktoon by any means, but it was alright, and when I found out new episodes would start airing on ABC I was looking forward to it. And then the first episode aired and I wanted nothing to do with it any further. It's really nice to know that the creator feels the same way and evidently was forced to make changes and do things he didn't really want to do.

Spoiler: lol

Unfortunately I had a hard time getting out of watching Disney Doug because my dad thought I actually fucking liked it, and thought that my avoidance to watching it was because I was either watching other stuff, or trying to sleep in. So he started taping episodes that I would be obligated to watch later, until I got fed up after about a month or so and would just openly "forget" to watch until he took the hint.

Incidentally Jim Jinkins caught flak on social media a while ago because he stated that when they grow up Doug would not marry Patti. People were legit upset but honestly, Patti was so awful in the Disney version I no longer wanted them to hook up back then.

 

[Trilby]

Incidentally Jim Jinkins caught flak on social media a while ago because he stated that when they grow up Doug would not marry Patti. People were legit upset but honestly, Patti was so awful in the Disney version I no longer wanted them to hook up back then.

Wouldn't surprise me given how much Patti changed in those episodes. What with being home schooled part of the time and all.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Doug wasn't my favorite Nicktoon by any means, but it was alright, and when I found out new episodes would start airing on ABC I was looking forward to it. And then the first episode aired and I wanted nothing to do with it any further. It's really nice to know that the creator feels the same way and evidently was forced to make changes and do things he didn't really want to do.

Spoiler: lol

Unfortunately I had a hard time getting out of watching Disney Doug because my dad thought I actually fucking liked it, and thought that my avoidance to watching it was because I was either watching other stuff, or trying to sleep in. So he started taping episodes that I would be obligated to watch later, until I got fed up after about a month or so and would just openly "forget" to watch until he took the hint.

Incidentally Jim Jinkins caught flak on social media a while ago because he stated that when they grow up Doug would not marry Patti. People were legit upset but honestly, Patti was so awful in the Disney version I no longer wanted them to hook up back then.

He wasn't as involved with the Disney version as with the Nick version. He got to tell more stories and he liked that, but in retrospect, he thinks his first chance was better. Patti's actress feels the same.

The creator, needless to say, has every right to decide how his characters will go. You don't always end up with your grade school crush.

 

[Brit Crust]

The only episode I've ever seen of Disney's Doug is the Christmas one, in which Doug's baby sister "Dirtbike" is born. (Both Nickelodeon and Disney versions have their own Christmas specials.)

Yet I had a couple of merchandise (namely a McDonald's Happy Meal toy and an activity book) from that show for some reason.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Incidentally Jim Jinkins caught flak on social media a while ago because he stated that when they grow up Doug would not marry Patti. People were legit upset but honestly, Patti was so awful in the Disney version I no longer wanted them to hook up back then.

People get so upset over creators correcting fan theories. A while back, one of the artists for Rugrats responded to fan art that interpreted the characters as growing up into attractive millenials by making his own art on how they would have actually grown up to be. And they were plain/ugly. As he pointed out, they were lumpy and weird looking babies, so naturally they'd grow up into lumpy and weird looking adults.

 

[MysticMisty]

People get so upset over creators correcting fan theories. A while back, one of the artists for Rugrats responded to fan art that interpreted the characters as growing up into attractive millenials by making his own art on how they would have actually grown up to be. And they were plain/ugly. As he pointed out, they were lumpy and weird looking babies, so naturally they'd grow up into lumpy and weird looking adults.

I mean, if you look at their parents (or every other adult in the show) they follow that same pattern. The growing up attractive thing probably came from the art of the sequel series, which portrayed them as such since basically none of the people who worked on the original three seasons were still around, except for the studio heads.

Patti's actress feels the same.

The VA wasn't the problem, it was the writing that took Patti in a direction that made you wonder why Doug still continued to crush over her. It went from "they don't really have a lot in common, and Patti can get pissed too easily, but she's otherwise a nice girl so you can see why he likes her" to "they have even less in common, Patti gets pissed even more easily to the point where she's kind of bitchy all the time, and does things that Doug finds questionable so why does he like her again?"

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Man, Doug was just... I dunno, man, I didn't watch it a whole lot since I didn't always catch it, and the movie was one of the movies the elementary school would put on on Fridays I think it was, and Skeeter was memorable since kids gravitated toward that character's quirk. The Quailman segments I felt were the only thing that had some merit to them since it was a kid with an overactive imagination just thinking about what it'd be like to be his own superhero. I think Calvin & Hobbes' Stupendous Man handled the idea better, but I got where they were going with it. Meanwhile, I've come to a conclusion in recent years Roger Klotz must've been what The Fonz should've been like had he been allowed to be an actual punk. I know he's the bully and we're not really supposed to like him, but he was the most interesting of the group.

Also the troll fics that came to be are so legendary I think those and Bud Dink becoming a meme status are the only reasons why it's still remembered to this day.

Incidentally Jim Jinkins caught flak on social media a while ago because he stated that when they grow up Doug would not marry Patti. People were legit upset but honestly, Patti was so awful in the Disney version I no longer wanted them to hook up back then.

Meh, Beebe was better.

 

[Trilby]

The only episode I've ever seen of Disney's Doug is the Christmas one, in which Doug's baby sister "Dirtbike" is born. (Both Nickelodeon and Disney versions have their own Christmas specials.)

Oh yeah, the one where Doug already knew what his dad was trying to tell him about!

Spoiler

 

[Dom Cruise]

Man, Doug switching to Disney just confused the hell out of me as a kid, I don't think I've seen not a one episode of Disney's Doug, although I may have seen the movie.

But something about a Nicktoon switching networks just felt wrong to me and I officially filed Disney's Doug into the "it never happened" category.

I loved Nick's Doug though, "banging on a trash can! Strumming on a streetlight!"

But Rugrats sucked when they came back as well and that was on Nick proper, I was so heartbroken by that, first time pop culture really let me down.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

My favorite Doug related thing was when the creator of Doug, Jim Jenkins reunited with the real life inspiration for Patti.

Taken from this Entertainment Weekly article

It’s my ten-year reunion, and I didn’t go. I was in New York working like crazy as a freelancer and just trying to make it there. And I got a phone call in New York and it’s Patti. The real Patti. And my heart’s beating fast. She’s like, ‘I was at the reunion! You weren’t!’ and I was like, ‘Yeah…sorry…I had to work.’ And she goes, ‘I found out you live in New York. Guess what—I do, too!’ And she told me where she lives. We lived across Central Park from each other. And she says, ‘Why don’t you come over for dinner?’

So now we’re in a Doug show. I’m like, what do I wear? What will she look like!? All that’s happening as I’m walking across Central Park to her apartment, just wondering and just hoping, all those things. I was, at the time, very available.

I get to the door, and you get buzzed up in New York, and so I walk up to the apartment and I hear the lock turn—it’s getting ready to happen—and she opens the door, and she’s perfect. Just perfect. She just looks spectacular and she’s so happy, and her arms fly up and we hug, and I’m just like [frightened guttural gasping noises]. She backs up and she goes ‘Look, Jimmy! Boobs! I got my boobs!’ [Laughs.] It sounds like I’m making this up, right? And I’m like, ‘Yeah… yeah, uh huh!’ ‘Yeah, they always used to call me Flatty Patti, but look!’ And she was just funny and fun and innocent, but it’s like Doug and Patti together again, ten years later, right?

So this is all wonderful, right? And then she wheels and goes, ‘Oh, Jimmy, I want you to meet my husband.’

And I don’t even remember the rest of the evening.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Well if it isn't my old pal Funnie!

 

[vertexwindi]

That story is particularly (in)famous on /co/ where it gets posted pretty much every time people discuss Doug.

 

[MalWart]

I still remember the "Doug Live" show they had at MGM Studios many years ago, it was actually better than one would expect:

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

The Disney+ cut of Splash gave Daryl Hannah extra CGI hair to cover her bottom.

https://www.ign.com/articles/splash-nudity-butt-daryl-hannah-disney-plus?sf120795510=1