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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,087 68.9%
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Lucas Silva #4903141 said:
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(In fairness, Dragonball Evolution's average user rating is 2.4 points too high for my liking)
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Not using real cinema

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Gingervitis said:
…seriously, why The Aristocats? Why not The Black Cauldron, or Atlantis? Hell, I’d take Home on the Range as long as they bring back the scrapped plotline of the villain pulling a January 6th with hypnotized cows
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I'm sure they're just using shows that were successful in the past, because somehow they think they can't bomb the second time around.
 
I keep hearing from liberals that the reason Disney does all of these remakes with blackwashing/changing the characters to POCs is because it helps kids to see themselves more in movies. Can anyone think of one Disney remake that actually did well? Since the Snow White movie flopped then who exactly is this movie trying to appeal to? If a lot of hispanic moms didn't take their daughters to go see this movie and young hispanic women clearly didn't go to see this movie despite the argument that they want to see themselves in it then clearly that's not the reason Disney wants to make these remakes. The only Disney remake that did ok with this was "The Little Mermaid" remake (but I swear those TikTok videos of little black girls were astroturfed), but even then I'm pretty sure most hispanic people would rather see movies like Coco and Encanto. Actually movies that portray hispanic cultures instead of a lazy remake.
 
Jacques1194 said:
I keep hearing from liberals that the reason Disney does all of these remakes with blackwashing/changing the characters to POCs is because it helps kids to see themselves more in movies. Can anyone think of one Disney remake that actually did well? Since the Snow White movie flopped then who exactly is this movie trying to appeal to? If a lot of hispanic moms didn't take their daughters to go see this movie and young hispanic women clearly didn't go to see this movie despite the argument that they want to see themselves in it then clearly that's not the reason Disney wants to make these remakes. The only Disney remake that did ok with this was "The Little Mermaid" remake (but I swear those TikTok videos of little black girls were astroturfed), but even then I'm pretty sure most hispanic people would rather see movies like Coco and Encanto. Actually movies that portray hispanic cultures instead of a lazy remake.
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I think the first remake from 10-15 years ago or something did ok, I don't remember which one it was off the top of my head, probably Just Ella or something.

And if Mexicans can see themselves in speedy mice and Japanese Dragonball characters then I don't see why making the characters black helps.

It's like the Lego thing where the original yellow generic figurines allowed everyone to play but then new ones force a role onto the figurine.
 
Jacques1194 said:
I keep hearing from liberals that the reason Disney does all of these remakes with blackwashing/changing the characters to POCs is because it helps kids to see themselves more in movies.
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A kid who needs to "see" themselves in a movie to even watch it is going to grow up shallow because they've been conditioned into being shallow-minded. Kids just want to be entertained, let them naturally gravitate to a character they want to aspire to be. Girls love the idea of being a princess, so princesses need to act like one instead of pretending to be one in a movie due to meta-commentary.
 
Jacques1194 said:
I keep hearing from liberals that the reason Disney does all of these remakes with blackwashing/changing the characters to POCs is because it helps kids to see themselves more in movies. Can anyone think of one Disney remake that actually did well? Since the Snow White movie flopped then who exactly is this movie trying to appeal to? If a lot of hispanic moms didn't take their daughters to go see this movie and young hispanic women clearly didn't go to see this movie despite the argument that they want to see themselves in it then clearly that's not the reason Disney wants to make these remakes. The only Disney remake that did ok with this was "The Little Mermaid" remake (but I swear those TikTok videos of little black girls were astroturfed), but even then I'm pretty sure most hispanic people would rather see movies like Coco and Encanto. Actually movies that portray hispanic cultures instead of a lazy remake.
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I never even heard of Coco. Encanto, yes, but not the other. As for the whole "representation" argument you brought up in your first sentence, who cares. It's not even possible to achieve that sort of thing in certain cases. Certainly not unless you always go out of your way to depict every race of people out there which isn't going to be done nor in most instances has it been done.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
A kid who needs to "see" themselves in a movie to even watch it is going to grow up shallow because they've been conditioned into being shallow-minded. Kids just want to be entertained, let them naturally gravitate to a character they want to aspire to be. Girls love the idea of being a princess, so princesses need to act like one instead of pretending to be one in a movie due to meta-commentary.
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I feel like we lost this mentality toughly 20 years ago.
 
Jacques1194 said:
I keep hearing from liberals that the reason Disney does all of these remakes with blackwashing/changing the characters to POCs is because it helps kids to see themselves more in movies. Can anyone think of one Disney remake that actually did well? Since the Snow White movie flopped then who exactly is this movie trying to appeal to? If a lot of hispanic moms didn't take their daughters to go see this movie and young hispanic women clearly didn't go to see this movie despite the argument that they want to see themselves in it then clearly that's not the reason Disney wants to make these remakes. The only Disney remake that did ok with this was "The Little Mermaid" remake (but I swear those TikTok videos of little black girls were astroturfed), but even then I'm pretty sure most hispanic people would rather see movies like Coco and Encanto. Actually movies that portray hispanic cultures instead of a lazy remake.
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I'm a white blonde dude with blue eyes,
I'm not kidding when I say that literally the only times in the last decade I've seen someone in a movie or TV show who looked like me were WWII period pieces and guess what characters those were?

The representation argument is shit, 100% of kids aren't hideously ugly brown goblinos.
 
Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Fiasco: Death Threats, Beefed-Up Security and a Social Media Guru for Rachel Zegler
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It just keeps getting worse.
On Aug. 12, 2024, three days after Rachel Zegler hit the stage at Disney’s D23 fan event to introduce the first official trailer of “Snow White,” she thanked supporters effusively in an X post for driving the teaser to 120 million views in 24 hours. One minute later, she added an afterthought in the same thread: “and always remember, free palestine.”


That addendum, which amassed 8.8 million views, nearly four times the number for the the initial post, quickly made the rounds, with many inside the studio expressing shock that the “Snow White” star would commingle the promotion of its $270 million tentpole with any kind of political statement. A Disney executive raised the studio’s concerns with Zegler’s team, while the film’s producer Marc Platt flew to New York to speak directly with her. But the actress, whose relationship with the studio began to unravel in 2022 during a contentious “West Side Story” awards season campaign and continued as she trashed the beloved original “Snow White,” stood her ground, and the post remained. Behind the scenes, death threats toward Zegler’s co-star Gal Gadot, who is Israeli, spiked, and Disney had to pay for additional security for the mother of four.
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“She didn’t understand the repercussions of her actions as far as what that meant for the film, for Gal, for anyone,” says one insider.

Three months later, following the presidential election, Zegler posted “Fuck Donald Trump” and “May Trump supporters … never know peace” on Instagram. Disney had had enough, given that the star was signaling to half the potential audience of an already troubled film plagued by costly reshoots to stay home. Platt made the case again to Zegler. After a back and forth, she began working with a social media guru paid for by Disney to vet any posts before the film’s March 21 bow. Disney declined comment. Zegler did not respond to a request for comment.


Now that the film’s dismal opening weekend — $87 million worldwide — is in the rearview mirror, Burbank brass are evaluating what went wrong. To put “Snow White’s” global box office haul into perspective, it’s about $34 million less than Warner Bros.’ “Joker: Folie à Deux” in October but with a bigger budget by $70 million.





“You can’t say that a live-action remake of the most iconic film in the vault that cost [$270] million and has been reshot multiple times opening to $50 million is OK. The math does not work. That movie should be a billion-dollar movie,” said an executive at a rival studio when the film was tracking for a $45 million-$55 million domestic opening. (It ended up at below even the low-end figure, at $43 million.)


The Disney-Zegler standoffs underscore the challenge Hollywood studios face as they attempt to rein in stars who court controversy on social media. For her part, Gadot kept her comments on geopolitics limited to offering support for the civilian hostages taken during the Oct. 7 Hamas attack and did not mix that message with the promotion of the film. Zegler had already strained nerves at both the studio and Steven Spielberg’s Amblin Partners when she complained on social media that she wasn’t invited to the 2022 Oscars as the star of best picture nominee “West Side Story,” a film distributed by Disney. Sources say she had just begun production on “Snow White” in London and Sean Bailey, then-president of Walt Disney Studios Motion Picture Production, declined to cut her loose for the telecast. After Zegler aired her grievances publicly, the Academy provided her with a ticket even though she wasn’t nominated. (Bailey was gone from the job by February 2024.)


Months later at D23, she criticized the original 1937 “Snow White,” noting that the prince “literally stalks” the heroine. One top agent says that was the moment that Disney allowed Zegler to control the narrative: “The first time she shoots her mouth off, you nip it in the bud.” Instead, the studio said nothing, and purists began to revolt. And as time went on, Disney became increasingly loath to weigh in on anyone’s speech considering that the studio was sued in 2024 by actress Gina Carano, who claims she was fired from “The Mandalorian” for voicing her opinions on hot-button issues.


“They say all press is good press, but in ‘Snow White’s’ case, they were unabashedly wrong,” says box office analyst Jeff Bock of Exhibitor Relations. “Too much negative controversy surrounded this film for years, and it didn’t help that the reviews were subpar, likely rendering this latest live-action adventure to D+ for many potential ticket buyers. A possible saving grace? A feeble marketplace where ‘Snow White’ could stay awhile — as many family films have — despite the lackluster debut.”





Many additional factors contributed to the film’s woes, including a COVID-related production delay and a fire on set, while the actors strike scuttled some reshoots. Meanwhile, Disney’s live-action movies, which were once reliable box office draws, have looked shakier in recent years, with the likes of “Dumbo” and “Maleficent: Mistress of Evil” bombing and “Peter Pan & Wendy” getting shipped to Disney+.


Still, there was no bad blood between the two “Snow White” leads despite press reports to the contrary. Sources say the actresses got along well during production, and things only got awkward during the run-up to release. Case in point: Zegler referred to Gadot as “a professional pageant queen” in one Instagram reply that followed their joint appearance as presenters at the Oscars this month, considered a dismissive way to describe a fellow actress.


Some observers say Disney fueled the perception of a feud by scheduling the actresses for separate events during junketing. At the March 15 premiere, which eschewed traditional red-carpet interviews and opted for photos only, the two stars were mostly kept apart. Inside the El Capitan Theatre in Los Angeles, Zegler sat two rows ahead of Gadot and her family.


But by that point, Disney had given up hope that the film could overcome the backlash that had been brewing like a fairy tale cauldron for years.
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firstly, archive.
secondly:
“You can’t say that a live-action remake of the most iconic film in the vault that cost [$270] million and has been reshot multiple times opening to $50 million is OK. The math does not work. That movie should be a billion-dollar movie,” said an executive at a rival studio when the film was tracking for a $45 million-$55 million domestic opening. (It ended up at below even the low-end figure, at $43 million.)
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whoooa nelly. that is bad.
 
“She didn’t understand the repercussions of her actions as far as what that meant for the film, for Gal, for anyone,” says one insider.
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If she doesn't understand, then she's a certified retard and needs a tard-wrangler or her parents to take care of her.

They really just want to double down on keeping their actresses as infantile as possible despite these women sucking cock to keep their jobs.
 
"That movie should be a billion-dollar movie." Just to be sure, did any of the live action remakes even make that much money? I think it was only the Lion King (yes I know, not actually "live-action") right?
 
verissimus said:
"That movie should be a billion-dollar movie." Just to be sure, did any of the live action remakes even make that much money? I think it was only the Lion King (yes I know, not actually "live-action") right?
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If they hadn't been filled with sub-humans they ALL would have. Even keeping the absolute garbage tier retard writing.

Well maybe not Dumbo, but the rest would've all been a billion.

I think at this point they are stuck not using a non-ugly white princess, because it would trounce every other movie and point out how fucking reckless they have been right out in the open.

Like right now, if they made a live action Frozen with two good looking white chicks in it as the sisters (same plot, same music, no need to even write ANYTHING), it'd easily make a billion.

They're not interested in making movies or money.
 
Get the rope Macaulay! said:
aladdin and both lion kings and malificent
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Beauty and the Beast also made a billion dollars, and that was the only one where they didn't race-swap the princess. The Little Mermaid would have easily made a billion if they didn't cast a sheboon as Ariel and just used a pretty ginger.

As dogshit as these remakes are, the general audience eats them up as long as the niggerfication is kept to a minimum.
 
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