Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[Mayor Cody Travers]

good stuff

good stuff

I remember that story too, you guys have good taste.

I miss the "potential" that Ultimate Marvel seemed to have at the time: keeping the obvious base rosters, elements, villains, etc. so you know it's Marvel and easy to dive into but y'know... actually exploring new elements and connections in a modernized "early years era" you couldn't quite do in 616 anymore because Spidey was (then) happily married, the X-Men grew up with marriages and kids of their own, and the Avengers a full-on institution with government liasons.

Obviously, the edgelord-isms and the genetic modification meta-origin eventually forced it into a horrific collapse, but I won't forget the fresh-and-exciting feeling Ultimate Marvel recreated at the time, including that you could easily keep up with just four series and thus even reviving the old-school "Marvel zombie" term (as in the ancient early 60s fans buying up every title then).

Heck, remember the then-rumor Ultimate Marvel was in consideration to become the "main" Marvel U due to how big its sales were? Oh, how hilarious that was in retrospect....

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I remember that story too, you guys have good taste.

I miss the "potential" that Ultimate Marvel seemed to have at the time: keeping the obvious base rosters, elements, villains, etc. so you know it's Marvel and easy to dive into but y'know... actually exploring new elements and connections in a modernized "early years era" you couldn't quite do in 616 anymore because Spidey was (then) happily married, the X-Men grew up with marriages and kids of their own, and the Avengers a full-on institution with government liasons.

Obviously, the edgelord-isms and the genetic modification meta-origin eventually forced it into a horrific collapse, but I won't forget the fresh-and-exciting feeling Ultimate Marvel recreated at the time, including that you could easily keep up with just four series and thus even reviving the old-school "Marvel zombie" term (as in the ancient early 60s fans buying up every title then).

Heck, remember the then-rumor Ultimate Marvel was in consideration to become the "main" Marvel U due to how big its sales were? Oh, how hilarious that was in retrospect....

oh yeah like Ultimate Spider-Man me and the lads were all ready to get on-board for and then it just sorta petered out DOHOHOHOHO

 

[Archeops]

A friend of mine dragged me over to Disneyland for their monthly pin drop.

I did not know people were insane enough to line up outside the parks at 3 in the morning for their limited-edition pins of the month.

 

[BigBadBastich]

This plot doesn't even make sense.

Timeline-wise this movie should be set around 2010-2011, ipad kids weren't really a problem yet. Kids were very much still playing with toys.

They really should be making fun of videogames taking attention away from kids, but obviously this is a jab at Gen Z and Gen A being raised by tablets. Which is funny because Disney itself has been a huge reason if not outright endorser, on why media needs to be mostly be consumed by people on phones and tablet devices. God knows they want Jimmy and Jane to be handed a new Apple device, fresh out of the womb to watch the Frozen remake with the anorexic girls from Wicked playing Elsa and Anna.

 

[Jormungand]

Randomly came across this video on Instagram.
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They are 100% doing the “Come see our quirky blorbo” marketing tactic that they did for Elemental. Speaking of, did anyone here watch that? I was put off by the ugly ass character designs and it appearing to be yet another anti racism story that gets more holes the longer you think about it.

Oh, you have no idea how desperate they are for this film to succeed.
It's gotten to the point where they're advertising this film to Fortnite.

 

[BigBadBastich]

Oh, you have no idea how desperate they are for this film to succeed.
It's gotten to the point where they're advertising this film to Fortnite.
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I think Disney knows which movies will succeed this year and its obvious to everyone that none of these will be original flicks. Their safest and surest bets, with the most marketing and support will be Toy Story 5 and Avengers: Doomsday. Honorable mention to the Moana remake, which I'm sure will be as safe and sterile as the Lilo and Stitch remake, with maybe a handful of alterations to the plot. They know Mandalorian and Marketing Device will fail and bomb outright as will this movie.

 

[Belvedere]

Changing topics, recently i decided to rewatch The Old Mill short film from 1937. It's one that i had on DVD on one of their many collections of shorts. It's been a while since i had seen this, in fact, i had not seen it since i was a kid. And after i had finished watching it, i started crying. And i am not one to cry to movies or any other type of media, so this was an interesting experience. The Nostalgia from the simpler times may have played a part on it, but man, the old Disney guys really had something special.

The Old Mill was very significant for Disney, it was a test platform for a whole variety of new technologies and animation techniques. It was the first animation to use the multiplane camera to simulate depth and object parallax. It also showcased novel ways to animate reflections, light and weather effects. It was what we would call today a "Tech Demo" and even so they made sure the scenes and the story on display was compelling and not secondary to the technology being showcased. I believe that what makes it remarkable is how all of it was breaking new ground while at the same time all the technology was physical, analog and very much driven by human innovation, creativity and talent.

Speaking of, did anyone here watch that? I was put off by the ugly ass character designs and it appearing to be yet another anti racism story that gets more holes the longer you think about it.

Saw the promos and couldn't care any less. I shows the deep level of disconnection that exists between the script writers and the audience. I was not too keen on elemental creatures as metaphors for personality archetypes and the story and setting was ham-fisted and pedestrian in its portrayal and indeed the designs were atrocious. This movie would have never been green lit as it was under Pixar's old guard.

It was the opposite of "The Old Mill"; Pixar was flaunting about their new rendering technology for fire, water and other element effects but the story was ass and it shows as the movie's performance at the box office was middling at best.

 

[Jormungand]

I think Disney knows which movies will succeed this year and its obvious to everyone that none of these will be original flicks. Their safest and surest bets, with the most marketing and support will be Toy Story 5 and Avengers: Doomsday. Honorable mention to the Moana remake, which I'm sure will be as safe and sterile as the Lilo and Stitch remake, with maybe a handful of alterations to the plot. They know Mandalorian and Marketing Device will fail and bomb outright as will this movie.

That's the main reason Disney keeps digging up the graves of its own franchises.
They're completely dependent on their audience's nostalgia because, while they'll never admit that most of their new IPs are total dogshit that nobody wants to watch, these "new" movies are only for the narcissist who made them, which is a far smaller audience than Disney desires.

It's just funny to see Disney repeat the same mistake they made with the Star Wars sequel Trilogy.
Remember Palpatine's big speech?

 

[ita]

Randomly came across this video on Instagram.
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They are 100% doing the “Come see our quirky blorbo” marketing tactic that they did for Elemental. Speaking of, did anyone here watch that? I was put off by the ugly ass character designs and it appearing to be yet another anti racism story that gets more holes the longer you think about it.

I had the displeasure of seeing one of the trailers for Hoppers today. The art and animation styles awaken some sort of primal rage within me like that one GrubHub commercial did for everyone.

that feeling when it’s fri-YAY!!

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Not to defend Marvel, but that death kid thing was a story in the now-defunct Ultimates universe and they actually sent Wolverine to kill that kid so nobody found out. So at least there was a little a little bit of nuance with that one particular story in that mutants realized they had to clean up their own mess in advance or else their carefully constructed victimhood narrative would crumble.

Mutants had realized that a long, long time before this "incident" happened. Just this story was on the far end of the scale of just how fast and bad the mess before they arrived to clean it up.

 

[Blacklight]

Jesus christ, I had the misfortune of watching Youtube without an adblocker for a few hours yesterday and they are fucking hammering this Hoppers movie with tons of ads. I've seen that fucking retarded lizard at least 15 times in the three hours I went without an adblocker.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Jesus christ, I had the misfortune of watching Youtube without an adblocker for a few hours yesterday and they are fucking hammering this Hoppers movie with tons of ads. I've seen that fucking retarded lizard at least 15 times in the three hours I went without an adblocker.

Wanna trade? I keep getting political ads now that midterms are coming up. There’s a special place in hell for whoever decided to make this shit unskippable.
That aside, I think there’s a good chance Disney will keep doing this. Throw out a bunch of ads with a glup shitto doing #funny or #relatable shit.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Their safest and surest bets, with the most marketing and support will be Toy Story 5 and Avengers: Doomsday.

Avengers: Doomsday will probably have a big gross, and they'll crow and crow about it, but that movie won't actually be financially successful unless it grosses in the $1.75-$2 billion range. With most of that needing to be domestic. And I don't see that happening.

 

[Fartificial Insmelligence]

Wanna trade? I keep getting political ads now that midterms are coming up. There’s a special place in hell for whoever decided to make this shit unskippable.

Pro tip: Just report the ads as “scam/misleading” and it’ll let you skip ‘em, PLUS Google (allegedly) investigates every claim, so you’re wasting their time and energy as well!!!

 

[The Mighty Banth]

https://x.com/Forbes/status/2021328401160913340

A&N thread here

This just goes to show that animated movies were never "too expensive"

That new Disney Park getting built in the UAE not looking so appealing now LMAO

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I like to think all current global issues are God's way of punishing Disney.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

animated movies were never "too expensive"

iirc they really were and Walt was just tismo enough he literally almost bankrupted the company a couple of times before the park and tv was the stable money draw

 

[The Mighty Banth]

iirc they really were and Walt was just tismo enough he literally almost bankrupted the company a couple of times before the park and tv was the stable money draw

My full comment got cut, but I mean modern live action films which they waste 100s of millions on which is forgotten in a month when a classic hand drawn film, like Snow White, still brings in money in merchandise, ect 90 years after its original release. All modern decisions are cheap, controlling, and ideologically strangled.

The risks Disney the man made were from a man filled with passion and a hunger to press his craft ever further in beauty, ambition, and scope and the world paid him back for it.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

My full comment got cut, but I mean modern live action films which they waste 100s of millions on that is forgotten in a month when a classic hand drawn film, like Snow White, still brings in money in merchandise, ect. All modern decisions are cheap, controlling, and ideologically strangled.

oh yeah thousand percent this
as much as I will dog on Walt for being a hardnosed capitalist of the worst kind, nepo subsidiaries and government kissups trying to make a DPRK where you will labor and own nothing almost a century ahead of the curve, dude at least understood the bottom line, like all the shit that JUST HAPPENED to line up to 30m rebroadcasts as the television became a thing
Uncle Walt knew how to use every part of the buffalo (and would pick up the buffalo plop instead of waiting for a custodian)

 

[Belvedere]

There’s a special place in hell for whoever decided to make this shit unskippable.

Just use Brave on desktop and phone, the YT app has become so shit it is unusable. Last week I ended up fully switching on my phone because of how bad it got.

Fun Fact: Indians don't have a concept for Hell.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

Fun Fact: Indians don't have a concept for Hell.

You don't need a concept when you are the living example.