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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Xenomorphs Are Cute said:
Hey fuck you, Sgt. Calhoun is best Disney Princess.
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I read that as Sgt. Callahan.

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Who owns Police Academy these days? It wouldn't surprise me if the answer was Disney.

Crybaby Xianghua said:
Also, am I the only one who prefers Tim Burton's animated works over his live action works?
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I'd agree if Beetlejuice didn't exist.
 
Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
I finished reading Wild Minds: The Artists and Rivalries that Inspired the Golden Age of Animation the other day, and am now working my way through a lot of the early Disney cartoons of note.

Some of this stuff is real eye-opening, because although I'd always heard of these movies, they were never what was really at the front of my mind. Apparently most of what I knew was "Revival Era" Disney, long after Disney himself died, and the early stuff is so much more interesting.

I didn't find all of Fantasia interesting to watch, but what was amazing was the Nutcracker Suite and Night on Bald Mountain/Ave Maria, the Nutcracker Suite has a great way of subtly anthropomorphizing plants and beautiful motion (the pixies move just like fish) and trippy visuals, Night on Bald Mountain is intense, and the Ave Maria sequence feels like a mystical/spiritual experience. The other stuff isn't stuff I'd rewatch but those are incredible.

Saludos Amigos has some really good stuff.

What I really loved was The Three Caballeros, just one of the most fun, positive things I've ever seen, I really like Latin cultures and music (I play bossa nova on saxophone a fair bit) and the crazy stuff with the Caballeros interacting with people (like Roger Rabbit decades early) and the trippy dances and all that is just magical.
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Fantasia‘s Rite of Spring was also badass as fuck and I personally consider it to be one of the best pieces of early Disney animation out there. Also one of my favorite pieces of dinosaur-related media. Imo it perfectly captured the primal, eerie, ancient, and almost alien feel of retro prehistoric-times and retro paleoart in general.

Also, even though Fantasia 2000 honestly kinda sucked, the entire segment with the lava-phoenix is one of the most beautiful, breathtaking, and intense pieces of animation I’ve ever seen. Shit literally made my jaw drop when I first saw it. Whoever animated that entire segment is a fucking god.
 
Basic Blonde Boy said:
I love Wreck-It-Ralph, but the best non-branded Disney Princess has to go to the Hot Topic goth gf.
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>choosing basic bitch Hot Topic goth girlfriend instead of based thicc Hawaiian surfer onee-chan
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Well, the username checks out, at least.
Newman's Lovechild said:
I'd agree if Beetlejuice didn't exist.
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And Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. And 1989 Batman. And Edward Scissorhands. And Ed Wood. Seriously, Burton was at his creative apex in the mid-late 80s and early 90s.
 
MysticMisty said:
For what it's worth, most people only know Oz as the Judy Garland movie and don't particularly know, or care, about the books. I think this is why it did so poorly at the box office, adults were expecting more Judy Garland-tier Oz material, and got something book accurate, which they found off-putting.
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not to be mean but they just aren't good books, maybe for their day they were good, but childrens/YA books in the 1900s/1910s sucked overall. plus culture has changed so much that by the 70s the only winkies people wanted to see on the big screen were big throbbing erect ones; there's a reason they straight up change the name in the wickied books.
madethistocomment said:
My girl Tiana is literally right there and deserves SO much more love than she gets. By her saying this, she's saying that Tiana isn't a real princess or good enough because she's not ridiculously popular like Ariel, and instead of working to increase Tiana's popularity and give her the attention and love she deserves, they will instead just give little black girls the sloppy seconds of more popular characters because they don't actually give a shit about them.
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while good, the film itself tried to subvert expectations too much, no one imagines princesses and thinks some city girl working in a gas station diner.
Kari Kamiya said:
I agree, but you're wrong.
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i swear the only reason we don't have an adaption for this despite it being an obvious billion dollar film is that disney can't find any mexican actors as amazing as goodman and spade. Spade is Kuzco,
 
Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
Since I read Wild Minds, I'm going to watch Snow White, the first feature-length cartoon. Will it turn me gay/into a little girl?
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Only if you're not rock certain of your sexuality, and if you really think watching it's going to turn you gay (and I assume you're joking), you aren't.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Only if you're not rock certain of your sexuality, and if you really think watching it's going to turn you gay (and I assume you're joking), you aren't.
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I am.
The idea of sitting down to watch a Disney princess movie seemed really cringey. Though "Disney princess" seems to be more of a marketing gimmick than a genre description, really.

But I'm about down with it now and so far it was mostly just boring as Hell. (Probably wouldn't be if I was a kid.) The visuals are surprisingly shitty, I guess the challenge and limited budget of making a movie for the first time meant they had to make something much more crude than the amazing stuff in later works (like Fantasia and The Three Caballeros that I was jerking off).
 
Kramer on the phone said:
youre right, Patrick and Eartha were both amazing too. Just the intro is so great, like you can tell this walked so shrek could run. all the meta stuff and the epic theater style drawing of the scene its all fucking great.
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They literally canceled the Emperor's New School tv show because Eartha died and they realized that they couldn't possibly replace her.

I suppose nothing is sacred anymore though.
 
Registration said:
is there any ''kinda'' serious disney stuff that tries to adapt king arthur? Not the black couldron or animal stuff. Any media too.
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What's wrong with Disney's Sword and the Stone? It is as you said, "animal stuff", but I really liked it as a kid.
 
Kramer on the phone said:
not to be mean but they just aren't good books, maybe for their day they were good, but childrens/YA books in the 1900s/1910s sucked overall.
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Eh, I personally disagree with that notion but to each their own. I’ve read the first three and while I don’t consider them literary masterpieces by any means, they’re fun stories and are bizarre in a charming way. They stand out well enough on their own and I found them to be competently written ( the writing is relatively simple and straightforward so that the story is easy to understand - but not once do the books ever talk down to their audience. They don’t treat the audience like they're stupid and certainly don’t shy away from having dark moments, Ex. The tin man killing an entire pack of evil wolves in order to protect his friends.)

Speaking of which, I think that’s something Disney has lost this past decade. A lot of older Disney films, even the more light-hearted ones, had some dark asf moments. They didn’t shy away from shit. That’s not to say they were gory, but they knew when to get serious.

(Some examples: The Evil Queen being creepy asf and dying via getting crushed, Maleficent calling on the powers of Hell to turn into a fucking Dragon, Cruella wanting to skin puppies for a coat, The Horned King, Scar being a tyrant who very nearly won before getting eaten alive by his own henchmen, Sykes’ dogs getting electrocuted to death/ Sykes himself getting obliterated by a train, and let’s not forget Frollo getting dragged down to Hell by a Gargoyle Demon)

Idk what happened, but Disney pussied out and it sucks. It’s not like it was a long time ago either (Tangled had Mother Gothel’s death and Wreck-it-Ralph had Turbo/The Cybugs.)
 
Trashtaur said:
Idk what happened, but Disney pussied out and it sucks.
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Yeah like children have known that violent deaths exist since humanity existed. It's also a normal part of fairy tales. The evil gets punished with death.

The witch from Hansel & Gretel gets burned alive in her oven.
In Snow White the evil Queen has to dance in hot shoes made of iron until she dies. Rumpelstilzkin gets so angry, he tears his own body apart. Bluebeard gets stabbed to death by two swords. The ogre from Puss in boots turns himself into a mouse & gets eaten alive...and so on.

Children know how these stories end and yet they want to listen to them over and over. Something Disney once knew but now decide to ignore.
 
Trashtaur said:
Eh, I personally disagree with that notion but to each their own. I’ve read the first three and while I don’t consider them literary masterpieces by any means, they’re fun stories and are bizarre in a charming way. They stand out well enough on their own and I found them to be competently written ( the writing is relatively simple and straightforward so that the story is easy to understand - but not once do the books ever talk down to their audience. They don’t treat the audience like they're stupid and certainly don’t shy away from having dark moments, Ex. The tin man killing an entire pack of evil wolves in order to protect his friends.)

Speaking of which, I think that’s something Disney has lost this past decade. A lot of older Disney films, even the more light-hearted ones, had some dark asf moments. They didn’t shy away from shit. That’s not to say they were gory, but they knew when to get serious.

(Some examples: The Evil Queen being creepy asf and dying via getting crushed, Maleficent calling on the powers of Hell to turn into a fucking Dragon, Cruella wanting to skin puppies for a coat, The Horned King, Scar being a tyrant who very nearly won before getting eaten alive by his own henchmen, Sykes’ dogs getting electrocuted to death/ Sykes himself getting obliterated by a train, and let’s not forget Frollo getting dragged down to Hell by a Gargoyle Demon)

Idk what happened, but Disney pussied out and it sucks. It’s not like it was a long time ago either (Tangled had Mother Gothel’s death and Wreck-it-Ralph had Turbo/The Cybugs.)
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Yeah it pisses me off. That we don't have insane disney villain deaths anymore.

Or Clayton who accidentally hang himself!!

Horned King probably wouldn't even exist in current Disney movies. We need our villian whose just a simple school Bully to make fart and poop jokes. Fuck you Disney. I want old Disney back
 
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