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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
I was gonna say that Downey must be desperate to be relevant again seeing as Dolittle bombed but then I remembered he was also in Oppenheimer.
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you can never have too much money when you're helping your kid beat drug addiction. who do you think has spent more on hookers and drugs the last 5 years Robert's son or Joe Biden's son?
Sinner's Sandwich said:
Actually there is a mass market for the hair of indian women.
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exactly, if its written well enough it would be a great live-action version of tangled. Them casting a Pajeet could even play into the fact that their hair is literally what most weaves are made of.
starborn427614 said:
. The only reason Pedro didn't also get the axe with his dumb post was because he removed it and apologized (
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Pedro's the son of the latino Dr.Money, outside of a boilerplate "censorship bad" i doubt he's not extremely left. Like he was pro-trans in the 90s, when barely anyone was.
Vyse Inglebard said:
yeah, even though I don't like Shrek 2, it's still miles better than the current slate of Pix-slop, so good on it.
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its been 20 years and i don't think anyone saw shrek 3 or 4 so nows a perfect time for a "maverick" style sequel.
 
Shrek 4 is a step-up from the third film, especially in terms of Shrek's character. The fourth film is pretty much him coming to terms with being a family man and somewhat of a celebrity, a future he never thought he'd have and was secretly afraid of, and one that was actually beneficial to both himself and Fiona (and everyone else, pretty much). It took essentially selling his soul to realize he was absolutely head-over-heels for Fiona and wanted a future with her.

Sad most people only remember the film for him doing the roar, though.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
Shrek 4 is a step-up from the third film, especially in terms of Shrek's character. The fourth film is pretty much him coming to terms with being a family man and somewhat of a celebrity, a future he never thought he'd have and was secretly afraid of, and one that was actually beneficial to both himself and Fiona (and everyone else, pretty much). It took essentially selling his soul to realize he was absolutely head-over-heels for Fiona and wanted a future with her.

Sad most people only remember the film for him doing the roar, though.
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The problem is that this is basically the core theme of Shrek 3 except with slight differences. It's not really a step-up, it's regressing Shrek's character for the sake of redoing more or less the same plot again.

Shrek 3 felt like an actual good send-off and happy ending for Shrek. Shrek 4 felt like a cheap cash-in by dragging the franchise's corpse out of the coffin.
 
My biggest problem with Shrek 3, is that they teased an arc about Arties father abandoning him while also making Artie look pretty much exactly like Prince Charming. (It would make sense that an heir to the throne would be related to another royal person.)
They then made Prince Charming a major villain of the movie, but refused to connect those two plot threads together in any meaningful way. What a waste.

I never saw Shrek 4.
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
The problem is that this is basically the core theme of Shrek 3 except with slight differences. It's not really a step-up, it's regressing Shrek's character for the sake of redoing more or less the same plot again.

Shrek 3 felt like an actual good send-off and happy ending for Shrek. Shrek 4 felt like a cheap cash-in by dragging the franchise's corpse out of the coffin.
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Having watched both movies, I can't remember a fucking thing about Shrek 3. Shrek 4 is definetly a step up and is just as good as Shrek 2.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
My biggest problem with Shrek 3, is that they teased an arc about Arties father abandoning him while also making Artie look pretty much exactly like Prince Charming. (It would make sense that an heir to the throne would be related to another royal person.)
They then made Prince Charming a major villain of the movie, but refused to connect those two plot threads together in any meaningful way. What a waste.

I never saw Shrek 4.
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Is Prince Charming even an actual prince? Because as far as I remember he is only a prince because his mother the Fairy Godmother says so.
 
Mary the Goldsmith said:
Is Prince Charming even an actual prince? Because as far as I remember he is only a prince because his mother the Fairy Godmother says so.
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I think there's a lot of fan speculation about who his father is but the consensus seems to be he and Fiona are closely related. Iirc pretty much all of the popular guesses make him her uncle (or maybe cousin?), which would make him a "real" prince in the same way Andrew and Harry are princes in the British royal family--spoiled and holding a title but unlikely to ever be king or have anyone take you seriously.
 
The Moana milking is so short-sighted considering the main reason the movie endures is not even a part of the sequel ( LMM) and instead, we're getting people who made unofficial fanmade musical.
The remake is pointless since we're already getting a sequel
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
The problem is that this is basically the core theme of Shrek 3 except with slight differences. It's not really a step-up, it's regressing Shrek's character for the sake of redoing more or less the same plot again.

Shrek 3 felt like an actual good send-off and happy ending for Shrek. Shrek 4 felt like a cheap cash-in by dragging the franchise's corpse out of the coffin.
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I disagree with this. Shrek 4 feels like a realistic next step, yes it is regression, but it is realistic regression. Shrek hit a point in his life where things became mundane and for a brief period wanted to relive a perceived “glory days”. Midlife crisis exist for a reason, and that is essentially what Shrek 4 was about.

Shrek immediately regretted his decision. 4 did a lot to show how much happier Shrek had become over the course of the series by removing it all and forcing Shrek to start over.

The Shrek series in general acts like a maturing narrative. Shrek 1 is the gaining of acceptance within a small group (friend and loved one) for a happy ever after. Shrek 2 is about gaining acceptance through the wider society/relatives, along with keeping a marriage together. Shrek 3 is about new responsibilities: king/father. Shrek 4 is sort of the midlife crisis that comes as a result of said social role and new responsibility, along with the need to reassess what you have.

If a Shrek 5 ever happened, it should be about Shrek retiring and trying to find a new avenue now that the ogre children are gone. I think Toy Story 4 had the right idea, even if not the best execution, in telling a story about what comes after parenthood.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
I disagree with this. Shrek 4 feels like a realistic next step, yes it is regression, but it is realistic regression. Shrek hit a point in his life where things became mundane and for a brief period wanted to relive a perceived “glory days”. Midlife crisis exist for a reason, and that is essentially what Shrek 4 was about.
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There's no such thing. Shrek already had his "I want to go back to the swamp and be a loner" moment not once but MULTIPLE times throughout the series before then. Doing it yet again and making a whole movie focused on it was pointless.
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
There's no such thing. Shrek already had his "I want to go back to the swamp and be a loner" moment not once but MULTIPLE times throughout the series before then. Doing it yet again and making a whole movie focused on it was pointless.
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How many athletes and performers have had multiple retirements already? Ozzy did 3 retirement tours already, same with Motley Crue. It's completely realistic, especially since Shrek is sort of a celebrity in universe.
 
ArthuriusMartyrius said:
There's no such thing. Shrek already had his "I want to go back to the swamp and be a loner" moment not once but MULTIPLE times throughout the series before then. Doing it yet again and making a whole movie focused on it was pointless.
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That's a recurring bad habit Shrek had that he needed to learn to break to become the husband and father he needed to be. It's likely stemmed from emotional trauma in believing he was going to be forever alone simply for being an ogre—or at least not living up to the standards of an ogre, I dunno. Point being, a happily ever after takes work and self-improvement. Shrek had a moment of selfishness that blinded him to the truth he had grown as a person for the better, and even made Fiona a better and happier person, too, and he apparently needed to learn the lesson the hard way. Sometimes that's just how you humble someone.
 
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Heh
 
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