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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
timtimH said:
A lot of corporate greed/stupidity but for me the most insane thing about this that there were, what, less than 10 character performers in the hotel that had to entertain 500 people ranging from little kids to roleplaying turbonerds, walk around in full makeup, stay in character, memorize pages of lore and, according to rumors, they received basic Disney park performer salary?
The second most insane thing for me was a decision of setting it in prequel trilogy three years after Rise of Skywalker. At least Jenny was excited to see Kylo Ren, I guess.
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I' not a big Star Wars fan, but even I would have gotten excited for a roleplay scenario like Jenny described - a hi-tech augmented reality game controlled via an app. Disney wanted to cheap out and use some lame scanning app they invented for Galaxy's Edge instead. Any one of us could have come up with a better hotel than the one designed by the catladies that Disney gave the task to. Have a permanent animatronic alien band with the occasional live singer or dancer. Give guests the option to roleplay a specific persona and give them backstory and a costume to wear and an experience tailored just for them. Have an "adult" area with casino, pool, hot tubs, and a nightclub run by some relative of Jabba the Hutt. Have a dinner murder mystery roleplay experience. Have a scenario where a group of people get into an escape pod, get transported to a maze/escape room disguised as a bunch of "space ruins" and have them solve a mystery subplot before returning to the ship. There. Just off the top of my head I thought of a few things that would justify the high price tag. I'm sure a ten year old on a sugar high could think up better ideas for a Star Wars hotel than the ones Disney came up with.
 
Yeah, I've been in $40 escape rooms with better production values than I saw in that video. In fact, it would've been smarter for them to do it like an escape room, you drop a few hundred for a day-long experience, they put you in a smaller enclosure but it's entirely focused on your party getting the story and it has all the cool interactive components that they don't dare deploy in an open hotel lobby with lots of screaming children running everywhere. Skip the app, they obviously couldn't make it work anyways, and in the amount of space they wasted in building that one hotel they could have a couple dozen duplicate rooms to simultaneously host several parties. The only downside with this setup is that if you have real actors, you'd need far more than the handful they had wandering around the hotel. Extras like Oota the random Rodian could just wander in and out of several peoples' rooms and multitask, but important story roles would need better coverage; you couldn't have people in one room just sitting around an hour to wait for the captain lady to make it back to them if some nerd in room five is interrogating her about hyperdrive physics.
 
robobobo said:
you drop a few hundred for a day-long experience,
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something where you can try the basics would have helped a lot to get it over with crowds, like the Hoop Dee Doo Review But It's The Cantina
or Adventurer's Club But It's Star Wars
especially Adventurer's Club
but yeah if it wasn't the "commit to larping for the whole fucking weekend" (especially for Mouse Wars) there's a good chance I would have tried it at least for an evening dinner show or something
Pokemon Conquistador said:
Have an "adult" area with casino, pool, hot tubs, and a nightclub run by some relative of Jabba the Hutt. Have a dinner murder mystery roleplay experience.
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yeah I think there's a lot of people who might have been able to be sold on "dick around in a star wars luxury hotel" while their kids went off to larp more seriously
 
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get fucked, lol
 
Wait, you mean there's more layoffs? They were reporting this back in February, it was effective immediately then.

Holy shit, all their hopes and dreams rest on Inside Out 2's shoulders, doesn't it? :story:

EDIT: Okay, it's was being reported as up to 20%, but Disney hadn't yet decided back in January. Now that we're hitting the end of the second quarter, they have a better idea how much of the staff is getting cut.

All this because of streaming. Inside Out 2 isn't going to save them.

:cunningpepe:
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
Wait, you mean there's more layoffs? They were reporting this back in February, it was effective immediately then.

Holy shit, all their hopes and dreams rest on Inside Out 2's shoulders, doesn't it? :story:

EDIT: Okay, it's was being reported as up to 20%, but Disney hadn't yet decided back in January. Now that we're hitting the end of the second quarter, they have a better idea how much of the staff is getting cut.

All this because of streaming. Inside Out 2 isn't going to save them.

:cunningpepe:
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you already know inside out 2 will be more messy than turning red.
the movie is already affected by the sequel rule.
the movie will be deep in ltbtqiat messaging.
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( I hate the fact that KP4 made back its box-office
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You can fucking taste it in the air that some blue hair wants to push the "Riley is a troon" button. I think they will and just double down, I have a free ticket to see it I cannot wait to see how shit its going to be.
 
Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
You can fucking taste it in the air that some blue hair wants to push the "Riley is a troon" button. I think they will and just double down, I have a free ticket to see it I cannot wait to see how shit its going to be.
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I'm just going to observe the backscatter of its shittyness, thank you.
 
Life is Hell... said:
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John Musker recently did an interview where he shares his thoughts about Disney currently.
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"Before this current remake era, Musker said that Disney management had proposed that they remake all of their films in cg animation. 'I told them I’d commit harikari first,' he told them."

Haha, holy shit. Stupider than live-action remakes.
robobobo said:
Yeah, I've been in $40 escape rooms with better production values than I saw in that video. In fact, it would've been smarter for them to do it like an escape room, you drop a few hundred for a day-long experience, they put you in a smaller enclosure but it's entirely focused on your party getting the story and it has all the cool interactive components that they don't dare deploy in an open hotel lobby with lots of screaming children running everywhere.
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I was thinking how an escape room would have given the story actual stakes, too. Jenny mentioned that they weren't OK with guests "failing" a story because the price was so high, but escape rooms would allow you to get different endings based on your input. Like, everything could still work out in the final wrap-up, but people "fail" escape rooms all the time and still have a great time.
 
Terrifik said:
I hate the fact that KP4 made back its box-office
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It's complex, yeah. It's not a good movie (if only because I believe Awkwafina is just that godawful), but I hate seeing DreamWorks go. I want them to profit so they can live longer, and I don't think this is enough to keep them going. The Wild Robot will have to pull in miraculous numbers and even then, Universal/Comcast may have made their decision final.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
It's complex, yeah. It's not a good movie (if only because I believe Awkwafina is just that godawful), but I hate seeing DreamWorks go. I want them to profit so they can live longer, and I don't think this is enough to keep them going. The Wild Robot will have to pull in miraculous numbers and even then, Universal/Comcast may have made their decision final.
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Dreamworks land is coming out next month at Universal lol
 
I mean, even just making a place where people could relax and cosplay as Star Wars characters and soak in the ambiance would have worked well. Most real life LARPs are complicated, require lots of planning, and require people who are good at improv. Expecting a bunch of wide eyed, fresh out of college actors to create a movie for guests on the fly is a huge ask. Requiring them to do it on an app that makes Pokemon Go look sophisticated is just retarded.
 
Pokemon Conquistador said:
I mean, even just making a place where people could relax and cosplay as Star Wars characters and soak in the ambiance would have worked well. Most real life LARPs are complicated, require lots of planning, and require people who are good at improv. Expecting a bunch of wide eyed, fresh out of college actors to create a movie for guests on the fly is a huge ask. Requiring them to do it on an app that makes Pokemon Go look sophisticated is just retarded.
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back in the day when you could get off-time tickets cheap, like weekday-only passes, and before that the 3/4 Season Salutes which were cheap af for Floridians, it was a lot of fun to just hang out in Epcot, enjoy the scenery, a snack, a drink, spot varmints, and watch the british die in the heat
 
neverendingmidi said:
Don't they think anything over 24C is mindbogglingly hot?
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probably, I don't speak metric
but yeah they'd be beet red and sweating like pigs with ugly black plastic sandals
being pale af brought the beet red out particularly strongly

one of my mom and me's best spots for weird Disney tourist watching was a gaggle of South American Nazis
like seriously old af white guys speaking English with a weird mix of german and spanish-ish accents, and female south americans about half to a third their age along with them, the dudes marking the fuck out over the Japan pavilion and heading to the bar like it's the Maginot Line
mom and I were like "lol south american naz- oh wait holy shit that really is south american nazis"
 
Myrtle the Turtle said:
The Spectacular Failure of the Star Wars Hotel
Highlights:
  • The hotel didn't have a conventional fire escape, it had a 'fire closet' aka a consoomer pod that you're supposed to wait in until help arrives built in each room.
  • Cramped rooms with poor lighting controls and apparently Disney was too cheap to include Disney + in the cost of your $6000 stay.
  • They only let you into the park for several hours where your 'immersion' task is to run around and scan QR codes on an app that doesn't work half the time
  • Rushed activities where scheduled that resembled a crappy dinner show with exciting fillers like bingo, card games, & group dancing.
  • Most of the bigger events were simple button pushing or meaningless tasks that would be exciting for your 8 year old
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Themed hotel rooms can be fun, as can themed restaurants done up to look like a spaceship or something but having to LARP along with employees and deal with annoying dinner shows and shit is not for me and I don't think its for many people.

I think the audience for it is quite small and the people that would be interested would probably rather do a more free-roam LARP-event where they get to make their own character and play out story-arcs over long periods of time.

This Star Wars Hotel was probably doomed to fail even if they were able to drop the price.
 
A smaller boutique hotel could pull it off the larp. Maybe if the sectioned off Skywalker ranch and put it there it could work.
Its doomed to fail because its Disney and the tight story-based LARP.
For legal reasons, a lot of things have to be restricted for safety versus a normal hotel venue. Think about all the bs that goes on at cons. If it required any real 'work' for the tasks, Disney retards would come out of the woodwork calling it ableist, against the the mentally ill or that the tasks were just too hard. The 'story' holds up poorly to begin with and requires every minute to be scripted and tightly coupled, no room for free roaming or to actually enjoy it. Their audience is all over the place in terms of age so you have to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Most of the interactive consoles were basic video games or push button busy work activities for kids, not adults who want more of challenge. They could make it adults only but I feel like a lot of their fanbase would complain saying it was 'gatekeeping the magic'.
A sci-fi themed hotel could definitely fit in Disney's line-up, something generic like a Tommrowland Star Trek luxury resort could easily work, but after this, I doubt they are willing to risk anything big again. I know for years people have been asking for a 1930s themed Hollywood Tower actual Hotel which wouldn't be too hard to market to the luxury crowd. Think art deco designs and fine dining with generic shows, superior service. Cunard cruises have formal nights were you dress up in tux and gowns for an elevated experience. Its not impossible, but Disney just wants to push their disgusting IP crap onto everyone to suffer together. Even the Contemporary now has Incredibles art in most of their rooms.

The Riveria is about the nicest Disney hotel I've stayed at but even it's comparable Kimpton or Hilton Canopy, not a St. Regis or Grand Hyatt.
 
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