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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,087 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,577
After watching Elemental and Inside Out 2, they just feel… soft and bland? squishy? in their sensibilities. They feel less adventurous and whimsical than the likes of Wall-E. There’s more expositing about the characters’ feelings and internal conflicts, but less doing with them. You can see how homogeneous the industry has gotten when you can compare Pixar films to Steven Universe.
 
I was going to post on release day, so I went to see the Inside Out 2 matinee it was a school holiday and it was me and another guy in a 500-seat theatre. I grabbed him leaving out of curiosity and he was pretty much on the same wavelength as this board.

I think the media are giving it too much praise even I was at first but in retrospect, the film is like a C. It's good because it's not shit but it's not good because it's somewhat messy. There are too many characters and some of them barely speak, Disgust, Fear and the French one barely speak. I laughed out loud at the nostalgia joke that was a good example of an adult audience joke. The voice work in this was just fucking weird, Joy sounds not like Joy from 1 (age) as does Anger. Anxiety is not an emotion and Sadness is still the best one. I liked the message albeit it was forgettable.

It's a step in the right direction but for an almost 30-year-old studio, it's not enough and is incredibly safe. Visually too it just felt weird there was smoothing used that made it look like a filter almost and it just felt off. The colour work could have been brighter too, it's kind of a drab film,.
 
Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
I was going to post on release day, so I went to see the Inside Out 2 matinee it was a school holiday and it was me and another guy in a 500-seat theatre. I grabbed him leaving out of curiosity and he was pretty much on the same wavelength as this board.

I think the media are giving it too much praise even I was at first but in retrospect, the film is like a C. It's good because it's not shit but it's not good because it's somewhat messy. There are too many characters and some of them barely speak, Disgust, Fear and the French one barely speak. I laughed out loud at the nostalgia joke that was a good example of an adult audience joke. The voice work in this was just fucking weird, Joy sounds not like Joy from 1 (age) as does Anger. Anxiety is not an emotion and Sadness is still the best one. I liked the message albeit it was forgettable.

It's a step in the right direction but for an almost 30-year-old studio, it's not enough and is incredibly safe. Visually too it just felt weird there was smoothing used that made it look like a filter almost and it just felt off. The colour work could have been brighter too, it's kind of a drab film,.
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The only reason why I support this movie is because my homie "Yongyea" is finally hitting the big time for voicing that video game character in the movie
 
invisibult plus+ said:
You can see how homogeneous the industry has gotten when you can compare Pixar films to Steven Universe.
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Bitch, we have video games space operas who took their plot from Steven Universe. It's cross industry rot due to an entire generation of writers who all come from the same place and got ahead by whoring themselves.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Bitch, we have video games space operas who took their plot from Steven Universe. It's cross industry rot due to an entire generation of writers who all come from the same place and got ahead by whoring themselves.
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Well, yea. They say to stay out of Los Angeles for a reason. Also Calarts. Also Pixar got that way from the time Disney bought them to when they kicked out John Lasseter, so there is more than one Zoe Quinn.

The problem is that Pixar had it good for so long that such a comparison being accurate is unacceptable.
 
So. Today's Stitch Day (6/26). Not so coincidentally, remember this from last year?
Vyse Inglebard said:

Lilo & Stitch Gets a New Comic by Greg Pak & Giulia Giacomino in 2024​

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The first story arc was completed this month. So, over the weekend, I gave it a read. Here's a play by play of my reaction:
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"Yet another evil alien group who wants Stitch to 'take over the universe', huh? Well, at least it's not a blatant Pokemon ripoff this time....."
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"This....looks....amazingly accurate to Chris' art style, actually."
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"Nani is here?! Nani is here?! Wha - YES! Nani is here!"
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"AND THE SISTERLY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO IS ACTUALLY AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE STORY?! YES, THANK YOU!"
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"A globe-trotting adventure where Stitch helps out unrelated people while keeping away from said alien big bad? Ehhhh, not really digging this part, however it could've been worse."
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"But wait?! What's this?! Actual EMOTION?! And STAKES?! And DRAMA?! AND IT'S FAIRLY WELL DONE, ALMOST ON PAR WITH THE ORIGINAL MOVIE AT POINTS?!"
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"And it ends on a interesting cliffhanger?!"
.......
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"Oh my God."
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"They did it!"
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"THEY PULLED THROUGH!"
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"THEY MADE A CONTINUATION THAT'S NOT A STEAMING PILE OF FUCKING SHIT!"
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"OH MY GOOOOOOD!"
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"THEY FINALLY FOUND THE GOLD AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW!....well maybe it's not gold, it's more of a silver, but....."

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"IT'S NOOOOOOOOOOT SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT!"

Non autistic version: The pre-existing characters are surprisingly true-to-form, the art is amazingly accurate to Chris' style while still being definitively its own thing, and the story is genuinely solid, even though it's another "bad alien group wants Stitch" story. It's far from perfect, it's not even great......but it is good. I'm well aware that I might be celebrating too early, considering this is only the first story arc, but.....let me have this moment, please.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
With the hubris of the supers with their "fuck you if you ain't born with it" mindset
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except it seemed most used their powers for good or at least volunteered themselves to help people. If they were profiting from it then it would be a different story but by all accounts they willingly abandoned their free time or ability to socialize and got very little in return. Might as well whine about people that are foster parents or work in soup kitchens.
X-avier cuck said:
the woke mob would be trying to oust him from his own company.
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lol, the woke wouldn't need to do that, his shitty nephew destroyed his company for them.
 
Get the rope Macaulay! said:
except it seemed most used their powers for good or at least volunteered themselves to help people. If they were profiting from it then it would be a different story but by all accounts they willingly abandoned their free time or ability to socialize and got very little in return. Might as well whine about people that are foster parents or work in soup kitchens.

lol, the woke wouldn't need to do that, his shitty nephew destroyed his company for them.
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I would argue that a lot of Disney's woes happened because of the combination of Michael Eisner and Jeffrey kastenburg ironically enough.

Katzenberg was basically a slave master that worked animators to the bone and almost caused now renowned films to tank because he wanted to omit some of their most iconic parts ( he tried to remove songs from the original Little mermaid which pissed off Howard Ashman).

Eisner on the other hand made a bunch of pointless investments that eventually cause the company to fall into hard times what's really strong when the animated film stop being as successful as they initially were post Lion King.

Bob iger was sort of seen as a savior years ago because he minted the poor relationship between Disney and pixar, I bought them, and then went on to purchase other things like marvel and Star wars but we now see how his reign has turned out in the long run

The problem with Disney is that it's hard to pinpoint where they exactly was wrong because they do good for a minute but then drop the ball hard
 
X-avier cuck said:
The problem with Disney is that it's hard to pinpoint where they exactly was wrong because they do good for a minute but then drop the ball hard
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It seems like an internal policy shift, like one day they decided to go full ham on DEI and suppressed and fired all the skilled workers and writers.
 
Betonhaus said:
It seems like an internal policy shift, like one day they decided to go full ham on DEI and suppressed and fired all the skilled workers and writers.
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The funny thing is that for all the people who decry him, Walt was a pretty forward-thinking guy.
He was with the actor that played Uncle Remus to the very end and allow them to make history by letting him the first ever award granted to an African-American and the guy even walked out of racist places who refuse to promote the film along with the lead star.
 
AnsemSoD1 said:
The Good Dinosaur and Brave are the literal definitions of mid.
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Brave was a Mother-Daughter movie. It was marketed as fun for boys too, but I just don't see it. If it had been done live action I'd expect to see it on Lifetime. I'm not saying it's good, but at least it was coherent.

The Good Dinosaur on the other hand had terrible character design, pointless plot, annoying characters... all on backgrounds that were bizarrely hyper realistic which contrasted badly with the cartoonish terrible character designs. This made it a pile of brightly colored shit to me.
 
neverendingmidi said:
Brave was a Mother-Daughter movie. It was marketed as fun for boys too, but I just don't see it. If it had been done live action I'd expect to see it on Lifetime. I'm not saying it's good, but at least it was coherent.
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Brave was an amazing movie in the first 15 minutes using a mother/daughter conflict to represent the ideals of soft and hard power women held throughout history and even in modern day. The mother clearly isn't "in charge" but she has enough soft power via eliciting respect and admiration from everyone using feminine grace that she may as well be, contrasted with the rash bullheaded daughter too thick to understand stublety trying to bruteforce her way no matter what (but she's a feminist or something woo.)

The movie could have been an amazing exploration of young people taking wisdom from the old and incorporating it into something new. You don't even have to make the daughter stop being feminist, just make her understand femininity and tradition have value too.

The movie could have been really really really fucking good if they explored any of these themes but somehow they decided to drop all the soft vs hard power, generational conflict, tradition vs innovation shit and make it into a dogshit version of brother bear that plays more like an episode of the week than a feature film.

I insist, we were robbed of a much better brave that must exist somewhere out there in an old script.

I will legitimately argue the first 15 minutes of brave are as deep and high quality as the intro to UP.
 
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