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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,087 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,577
Screamer_2 said:
It's a shame more people in the west aren't going out to watch Ne Zha 2. Animation and visuals are great. Very entertaining film, with great action.
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It's commie gookslop, and I didn't care for the first movie when I saw it some years back, so why should I watch the sequel? Also main character was so dull and uninteresting in the first movie and something tells me that's just par for the course of every Chinese mythological figure to begin with.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
It's commie gookslop, and I didn't care for the first movie when I saw it some years back, so why should I watch the sequel? Also main character was so dull and uninteresting in the first movie and something tells me that's just par for the course of every Chinese mythological figure to begin with.
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Sequel is much larger in scope and scale. I'm not racist like you, so I guess I don't have certain filters to prevent just enjoying some stuff and having a good time.
 
Ne Zha 2 is a good vs evil action flick with mid effects for mouthbreathers. Who cares?
 
Damn, Disney adults really aren't happy that people like an animated film that isn't pushing the message. Don't worry bub, Wish is still there for you to keep rewatching.
 
I didn't know "Look Through My Eyes" from Brother Bear gets airplay. I dunno what malls use for their music, just that there's been a lot of 2000s throwbacks playing as of late. Like yeah, "You'll Be in My Heart" is popular, and I've heard "On My Way" sometimes, but I don't know anyone who can tell me about "Look Through My Eyes".

We really had it good in the early-2000s, didn't we?
 
doublepost, but:
A great trilogy of video essays about how Disney inadvertently at first, but then very advertently later on, dumbed down children's understanding of the classic stories they based their movies off of, and the consequences thereof, but I want to draw special attention to this part in the third video, because my nigger hit the nail on the goddamn head here:
 
I believe that nostalgia can be a constructive and destructive force. When it comes to creative works, some of the best modern stories are pastiches or contemplative period pieces. Nothing is new under the sun, especially when it comes to art. Real achievements are usually built on the shoulders of giants.

The problem here is a generation of Disney Channel kids who grew up with constant programming telling them to be myopic Disney princesses and rebellious teens. They are too stunted to mature beyond that twisted Disney fantasy and fall on cushy, immature storytelling as a coping mechanism. That's okay behind closed doors, but it's leaking into commercial productions directed toward children. Young viewers become bored by writers venting about their ex-boyfriends, and adults experience something that pretends to be deep but lacks substance or nuance.

TL;DR: It's the stereotypical, CalArts, 30-something nepobabies turning children's cartoons into some form of paid therapy.
 
Rusty Hinges said:
believe that nostalgia can be a constructive and destructive force. When it comes to creative works, some of the best modern stories are pastiches or contemplative period pieces. Nothing is new under the sun, especially when it comes to art. Real achievements are usually built on the shoulders of giants.
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Nostalgia is okay on its own. The issue is when it's shamelessly monetized. Or better, when the past is objectively better than the present, as it's the case with Western animation and Disney in general.

Rusty Hinges said:
The problem here is a generation of Disney Channel kids who grew up with constant programming telling them to be myopic Disney princesses and rebellious teens. They are too stunted to mature beyond that twisted Disney fantasy and fall on cushy, immature storytelling as a coping mechanism. That's okay behind closed doors, but it's leaking into commercial productions directed toward children. Young viewers become bored by writers venting about their ex-boyfriends, and adults experience something that pretends to be deep but lacks substance or nuance.
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I'm not sure if this is related to being a former Disney fan. Many of those cases you mention are due to extremely petty people, if not outright malevolent. Disney Star Wars and Indiana Jones are clearly an excuse for KK to self-insert her own OC at the expense of the story and the regular cast. Gravity Falls is fine except some episodes of the second season, that later turns out they were an excuse for the writer to vent his hang-ups about a former love (no idea about other Cal Arts works like Steven Gayverse, Amphibia, Teen Titans Go and so on, other than being increasingly worse).
Then there are cases like Live Action Stitch, ruined by an ending that contradicts the message of the movie because either the writer is that obsessed with Commiefornia, or because he had issues with his ex-wife, can't recall right now.
Classic Disney works, even if disminished, had good messages and themes that run opposite to all of the petiness and meanness you see in modern works.
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Gravity Falls is fine except some episodes of the second season, that later turns out they were an excuse for the writer to vent his hang-ups about a former love (no idea about other Cal Arts works like Steven Gayverse, Amphibia, Teen Titans Go and so on, other than being increasingly worse).
Then there are cases like Live Action Stitch, ruined by an ending that contradicts the message of the movie because either the writer is that obsessed with Commiefornia, or because he had issues with his ex-wife, can't recall right now.
Classic Disney works, even if disminished, had good messages and themes that run opposite to all of the petiness and meanness you see in modern works.
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If I remember correctly, Dana Terrace insisted on having that prom episode of The Owl House to live out the “queer prom” she never got to have. I believe this was also the case for Noelle Stevenson with the She-Ra reboot. I’m just sitting here, having missed prom for multiple reasons, was it really all that cracked up to be?
As for the Lilo and Stitch director, I think you’re right about him still being hung up about his ex wife. Supposedly this also popped up at times in another movie he directed, Marcel the Shell. I still can’t get over him being like “Sometimes people DO get left behind!” Christ, I know divorce sucks, but there comes a time where you probably need a therapist, not a movie deal.
 
Grand Duke Snowfall said:
If I remember correctly, Dana Terrace insisted on having that prom episode of The Owl House to live out the “queer prom” she never got to have. I believe this was also the case for Noelle Stevenson with the She-Ra reboot.
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These women were obviously not gay or ever thought about being gay in high school. They got brainwashed by Tumblr so hard they literally gaslit themselves into believing they were always "qweer" since childhood, and now it's their life's mission to try and convince children they're gay.
 
An unreleased 80s featurette starring Mickey, Donald and Goofy called Swabbies
 
Vyse Inglebard said:
doublepost, but:
A great trilogy of video essays about how Disney inadvertently at first, but then very advertently later on, dumbed down children's understanding of the classic stories they based their movies off of, and the consequences thereof, but I want to draw special attention to this part in the third video, because my nigger hit the nail on the goddamn head here:
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Why would Disney want plebs to know what superior things they've stolen borrowed from? If I was a lawyer I'd be telling them to never let people look in the direction of German fairy tales and Japanese lion movies (Kimba) ever again otherwise they'd get their Semite-co-opted pants sued off (not that you'd win against a semitic Disney lawyer and their copyright JU-dge).
 
I mentioned it in General Chat's "How are you doing?" thread but a friend of mine badgered me into getting a Disneyland Magic Key last week. I think he partially wanted me to get one as a sort of "revisiting" of the times we used to go there after work but I also think part of it was to justify more trips on his end since he's only going to take his kid AFAIK.

And to be honest part of me misses going to Disneyland as well, thankfully the park has a monthly payment plan for SoCal residents that I can luckily take advantage of so that made the price a bit easier to swallow.

That said it's been so long I've forgotten what it's like and it feels a bit intimidating. I just wanted to drink the blue milk at Galaxy's Edge again. But not the green milk, that might get me sick.
 
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