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[verissimus]

when was the last time you had the 3 leads all white? i'm thinking Beauty and the Beast a decade ago,

The first Frozen movie comes to mind, but that was also over a decade ago.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I'm surprised Disney never did a movie on Red Riding Hood given it's one of the more well-known fairy tales.

Good thing they didn't, otherwise Hoodwinked might not've existed.

 

[SpiderBitch]

How do you think Disney would try to make little red riding hood child-friendly and progressive?
After all, its a tale about a wolf crossdressing as a little girls grandma and eating her only to have a hunter come along to kill the wolf and free her from his stomach...

Maybe its for the best they havent attempted to yet, I dont wanna know what kinda fetishes that would trigger in the audience

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

How do you think Disney would try to make little red riding hood child-friendly and progressive?
After all, its a tale about a wolf crossdressing as a little girls grandma and eating her only to have a hunter come along to kill the wolf and free her from his stomach...

Maybe its for the best they havent attempted to yet, I dont wanna know what kinda fetishes that would trigger in the audience

Eating the Grandma can easily be seen as tying her up or hiding her in some form, at least, to be rescued by the hunter as well.

The swallowing, I got nothing, unless you do it like super-fast and make the wolf just puke/hack her out before anything would logically happen. To try to make the inevitable fetishization a lot less potent, I'm sure you could have it be a nightmare sequence/song/etc. obviously taking across a moment of panic stretched to a lifetime in her mind during the actual swallowing.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Good thing they didn't, otherwise Hoodwinked might not've existed.

I remember that film, I have some nostalgia for it.

How do you think Disney would try to make little red riding hood child-friendly and progressive?
After all, its a tale about a wolf crossdressing as a little girls grandma and eating her only to have a hunter come along to kill the wolf and free her from his stomach...

Maybe its for the best they havent attempted to yet, I dont wanna know what kinda fetishes that would trigger in the audience

I'll stand by my idea from hundreds of pages ago: remove all woke stuff, combine the story with Hansel and Gretel, she's their cousin or something. Since it's set in Germany, Baba Yaga is the villain attacking the village from a country over in Russia, the Big Bad Wolf is in league with her.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

How do you think Disney would try to make little red riding hood child-friendly and progressive?
After all, its a tale about a wolf crossdressing as a little girls grandma and eating her only to have a hunter come along to kill the wolf and free her from his stomach...

Maybe its for the best they havent attempted to yet, I dont wanna know what kinda fetishes that would trigger in the audience

Certain Disney eras would've just killed the grandma and left out the saving part. The Walt era that made stuff like Pinocchio and that period from roughly 1995-2004 or so where every other movie was trying really hard to be more mature and have more death.

They actually came somewhat close with Dinosaur; in earlier versions that had a completely different plot, Aladar's grandparents both end up as carnotaurus food.

New Disney that would never consider that let alone storyboard it let alone put it on a DVD as a bonus feature for all the kids to see? Like said above, tie up granny, shove her in the closet, open closet to rescue her. Cut the crossdressing, just hide him under the covers.

Probably make the plot something about generational trauma.

 

[Rusty Hinges]

Probably make the plot something about generational trauma.

Why is this such a common focus in Disney films these days? I think it may simply reflect the writers' own gripes with their families. It's always about the protagonist 'fixing' their household in some way. What I dislike about "generational trauma" as a theme is that it tends to put more focus on how hurt the writers characters are by the dynamic than how toxic families are actually formed or healed.

There is room in fiction to talk about how important it is to avoid emotionally abusing or neglecting children. However, films rarely explore how the issue stems from parents' inability to deal with their own stress. It's not a simple decision to be cruel, as it is a deeply-rooted psychological problem that, sadly, many such parents never resolve.

 

[SpiderBitch]

Why is this such a common focus in Disney films these days?

Well they got rid of romance plots basically, and their attempts at serious friendship drama are even worse (raya), so ig family drama is the best theyve got now most of the time if they need an easy plot idea

 

[Rusty Hinges]

Good thing they didn't, otherwise Hoodwinked might not've existed.

It's kind of sad to think that modern Disney would girlboss Red but without any self-awareness. In Hoodwinked, the unexpected physical skill sets of Red and Granny are played for laughs. It fits the theme of shocking, hidden details behind a simple story. Even then, Red needs to be rescued in the third act.

I'd expect the wolf to be some ancient, magical, and misunderstood being that Red would help liberate from the cruel village hunters, led by her grandmother, who is traumatized by a misinterpreted event from her early childhood.

 

[TenMilesWide]

Good thing they didn't, otherwise Hoodwinked might not've existed.

In some horrible berenstein universe somewhere, Disney bought out Blue Yonder mid-production so they could have Hoodwinked as their answer to Shrek.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

Cut the crossdressing, just hide him under the covers.

The "what big teeth you have" is as iconic as the red hood, I would keep it and just make the wolf female. No cross dressing, still big bad wolf.

 

[Kether]

There is room in fiction to talk about how important it is to avoid emotionally abusing or neglecting children. However, films rarely explore how the issue stems from parents' inability to deal with their own stress. It's not a simple decision to be cruel, as it is a deeply-rooted psychological problem that, sadly, many such parents never resolve.

this is also a big reason grandparents are always nicer to the grandkids, its a real lack of stress. same thing with stepparents treating the younger kids better, a lack of the same stressors from when the parents were in a shit marriage unable to pay the bills and dealing with kids.

That's one of the take aways i enjoyed the most about Life Is Beautiful, that no matter how bad it got, he understood he had to keep his kid from the horrors of the world. meanwhile you have the real housewives just berating their kids when they clearly have no reason to neglect or emotionally abuse them.

 

[Rusty Hinges]

I would keep it and just make the wolf female.

Wouldn't that make the furrybait worse?

 

[The Mighty Banth]

Wouldn't that make the furrybait worse?

I think there is nothing that can be done to quell the lunatics so they should just be ignored.

More seriously, make it more of an evil shadow creature when not looking like her grandma. Disney used to be properly scary, could use a dose of that again.

 

[Incecticyder]

Wouldn't that make the furrybait worse?

Better than having to hear people talking about the wolf being a trans representation on top of furrybait.

I think there is nothing that can be done to quell the lunatics so they should just be ignored.

More seriously, make it more of an evil shadow creature when not looking like her grandma. Disney used to be properly scary, could use a dose of that again.

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That kind of design would change the movie into action.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

That kind of design would change the movie into action.

Fine by me! When was the last action centric cartoon by Disney? Moana? Even that didn't really have much that was memorable.

While messing around with the story, you could age up Red and age down the hunter and make it action and romance. Evil spirit in the form of a she-wolf who leads people astray, young hunter who lost family to it and wants to destroy it. He saves her before it has a chance to devour her but she is cursed by it, ect.

Never going to happen because that would be fun .

 

[Newcomer 42]

Just hire whoever drew and animated the Bad Wolf from Puss in Boots 2 for said hypothetical movie. He would kill it!

 

[Incecticyder]

Fine by me! When was the last action centric cartoon by Disney? Moana? Even that didn't really have much that was memorable.

While messing around with the story, you could age up Red and age down the hunter and make it action and romance. Evil spirit in the form of a she-wolf who leads people astray, young hunter who lost family to it and wants to destroy it. He saves her before it has a chance to devour her but she is cursed by it, ect.

Never going to happen because that would be fun .

There was a manga with a premise similar to that. Sadly, the editor could not tell his right arm from his left nostril, quality fell and sales tanked.

 

[Trilby]

There was a manga with a premise similar to that. Sadly, the editor could not tell his right arm from his left nostril, quality fell and sales tanked.

Sad, but I suppose doing it as a manga meant having to stretch the story out long enough for chapters or volumes at a time, and that probably didn't help. You really have to world-build that tale.

 

[Incecticyder]

Sad, but I suppose doing it as a manga meant having to stretch the story out long enough for chapters or volumes at a time, and that probably didn't help. You really have to world-build that tale.

It was more of a monster hunter organization that had red hoods as a uniform. Many monsters as opposed to one and thus nothing was really stretched. The issue was the editor that had ruined other series as well.