Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[SpiderBitch]

Btw allegedly the gay plotline in Elio was gonna be Elio himself.

Glad they cut it, they keep trying to go younger and younger with this. First it started off decently innocent with BG lesbian moms (finding dory and whatever), then slightly less BG adults, then it progressed to main teenage characters (strange world) and BG troons (turning red) and then they tried to go for an 11 yo solo main character who thanks to bean mouth looks even younger.

Though that last part is not the og creators fault ig, he looked like a regular military tween in concept art and then it was probably disney that made him look 6 yo.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

First it started off decently innocent with BG lesbian moms (finding dory and whatever)

I honestly don't see how those two women were lesbians, though. It's been a long time since I last watched the film, but never did I think the two were a couple--and even then, they're literal nameless nobodies, so who cares?

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

How does one submit a story board? I’m assuming you must be an employee. I am curious.

It's part of the pipeline, they hire people for it. It's so they have a blueprint for what the scenes should look like before dedicating more effort into it. It helps work out things like timing and camera angles. Both 2D and 3D films do it.

This is why deleted scenes for animated films usually take the form of these things.

Edit: I think technically once they add the voices and make a video out of it it's called an animatic, and storyboard is when it's just drawings being presented, but I'm not sure.

 

[Incecticyder]

Because Steven Universe. Most Western magical girl shows are just copying other Western magical girl shows. The creators have maybe slightly vague memories of watching Sailor Moon twenty years ago, but ignore them all for racially non-specific technicolor blobs in skirts.

Just call them magical tumblrs instead.

Which is funny as there was some racial diversity in Sailor Moon with Sailor Pluto.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Which is funny as there was some racial diversity in Sailor Moon with Sailor Pluto.

She's Japanese and is not a nigger, jeet, spic or other.

 

[Trilby]

She's Japanese and is not a nigger, jeet, spic or other.

The way people want to remake this in thier heads, it's no different from what was tried 30 years back we laughed at.

 

[Incecticyder]

She's Japanese and is not a nigger, jeet, spic or other.

She had a bit darker skin if you check. At least in comparison. I think she is supposed to be biracial. Or from one of the Southern Islands.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

She had a bit darker skin if you check. At least in comparison. I think she is supposed to be biracial. Or from one of the Southern Islands.

She's Japanese and original manga version haves her skin color ranging from same white skin as the other Sailor Senshi to barely a few shades darker than them.

The way people want to remake this in thier heads, it's no different from what was tried 30 years back we laughed at.

They gotten worse once "head canon" had became part of normie lexicon. 30 years ago BSSM was still the odd man out in the magical girl genre.

 

[Incecticyder]

She's Japanese and original manga version haves her skin color ranging from same white skin as the other Sailor Senshi to barely a few shades darker than them.

It is not consistent (but that could be an ink issue as the industry had a bit of a shortage at that point and it is one of the reasons why Toriyama made Super Saiyan look blonde) though she is still normally depicted as not darker skinned.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

*Although that Ore magical girl show with magical gender-swapping girls into burly dudes was hilarious and poked fun at the whole thing. I wonder if troons were triggered.

Now you're making me think of a magical girl show concept based on this....

The girls get their wish of becoming magical superheroes only to hilariously turn into manly, yet cool/badass dudes, and end up performing superheroics and actually being really good at it while becoming absolutely beloved by boys and young men everywhere.

The humor will naturally come as they try not to blow their cover by acting like what people would expect such "men" in their age range and presumed interests to be like. At the same time, of course, they're still teen girls and stuff teen girls would do or like will seep over into their behavior and team aesthetic, like suspiciously matching or extremely "fashion"-concerned costumes papered it over as say "team colors like... uuuuh, sports!", "teamwork is what makes us great, help bros out", taking in some rescued badass animal as team mascot yet get caught cooing over it like a cute kitten, and the like. Naturally, being a kids' film, their IDs are discovered, they'll save the day at climax, and get the pass by men everywhere as "one of 'em" and held up as role models nonetheless.

Now that sounds funny and wholesome, right? Just remember you can't do such a fun concept anymore because troons n' poons UTTERLY ruined such concepts by being ready to "claim it" as their own, a trans allegory, or demanding it become one immediately.

 

[Belvedere]

The idea of any American studio aping "Magical Girl" concepts feels blasphemous. That is a intrinsically Japanese genre and it should be considered off-limits by any Western studio because it shows a deep lack of creativity. Are you really telling me they can't create a compelling story with an Western mythos? To me it just reeks of desperation and it is a admission of defeat against Japanese animation. I'm not even saying there can be some sort of inspiration but the Magical Girl genre is so specific and the Japanese already have done so much to study and deconstruct the concept from different perspectives that this Pixar approach feels like surface level plagiarism.

Glad it never went anywhere. Bean mouth magical girl straight-up sounds cursed. ( The Steven Universe's Gem-like female characters designs from the concept art don't help either, they really can't help themselves designing unsightly character.)

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

iirc Pluto was immortal and stuff and just bullshitted up a civilian form to hang out with the rest of the gang (on the rare occasion she did)?

 

[Newcomer 42]

Now you're making me think of a magical girl show concept based on this....

The girls get their wish of becoming magical superheroes only to hilariously turn into manly, yet cool/badass dudes, and end up performing superheroics and actually being really good at it while becoming absolutely beloved by boys and young men everywhere.

This already exists, kind of. It's the Ore show I mentioned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Girl_Ore

The idea of any American studio aping "Magical Girl" concepts feels blasphemous. That is a intrinsically Japanese genre and it should be considered off-limits by any Western studio because it shows a deep lack of creativity.

Powerpuff Girls (first series) was the only exception.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

I had seen this go around earlier but I had no idea it would apparantly also include one of them cucking her old friend (who is unfindable except in like 1 barely related looking piece of concept art with a completely different style) with her new friends and that friend also being the real mc or smth.

starring absolutely hideous girls

It's bean mouth California vomit. This doesn't surprise me.

 

[neverendingmidi]

My favorite character is big Bertha bitch.

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Globo homo types are DESPERATE to gas light normies into thinking their GIANT MUSLCE MOMMY fetish is a real thing and not just a fetish. It’s even more disgusting when you notice how much of it is in children’s animation.

Most women who are huge and muscular are on STEROIDS or they are trannies. Get over it.

... I just rewatched Matilda, and I really have to wonder about people who apparently have a fetish for Miss Trunchbull.

 

[Incecticyder]

The idea of any American studio aping "Magical Girl" concepts feels blasphemous. That is a intrinsically Japanese genre and it should be considered off-limits by any Western studio because it shows a deep lack of creativity. Are you really telling me they can't create a compelling story with an Western mythos? To me it just reeks of desperation and it is a admission of defeat against Japanese animation. I'm not even saying there can be some sort of inspiration but the Magical Girl genre is so specific and the Japanese already have done so much to study and deconstruct the concept from different perspectives that this Pixar approach feels like surface level plagiarism.

Glad it never went anywhere. Bean mouth magical girl straight-up sounds cursed. ( The Steven Universe's Gem-like female characters designs from the concept art don't help either, they really can't help themselves designing unsightly character.)

To an extend, yes. It stems from Kabuki theater. Poses and flamboyant costumes are important in a medium that relies on things other than lines of dialogue to convey a story. Tokusatsu, at least the Henshin Hero arm of the genre, also does the same but it is aimed at men mostly.

Powerpuff Girls (first series) was the only exception.

But it is not a magical girl show. It is a superhero show.

... I just rewatched Matilda, and I really have to wonder about people who apparently have a fetish for Miss Trunchbull.

I hear the actress is lovely in real life but she made her character be seen as repulsive as possible.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

This plot doesn't even make sense.

Timeline-wise this movie should be set around 2010-2011, ipad kids weren't really a problem yet. Kids were very much still playing with toys.

They should have picked AI companions. What doesn't make sense is that an iPad would be able to talk like the toys. Phones were never sentient, computers are never sentient, why iPads? Its strange.

A friend of mine dragged me over to Disneyland for their monthly pin drop.
I did not know people were insane enough to line up outside the parks at 3 in the morning for their limited-edition pins of the month.

It didn't always be like that. I remember when I was a kid it was fun thing to collect, no pressure. No you have disney adults doing this shit and paying $100 for a piece of metal because 'I gotta consooom, muh limited edition!"

 

[Archeops]

No you have disney adults doing this shit and paying $100 for a piece of metal because 'I gotta consooom, muh limited edition!"

I completely forgot to report how the insanity went down that day, it wasn't all bad and the wait was technically the worst part of it. That said the pins still resell for close to 100 bucks outside of the Kingdom Key pin which 250 bucks. The problem is that a lot of these closed-number limited edition pins are in the low thousands when they should be higher and sometimes that number is split between both DLR and WDW.

It didn't always be like that. I remember when I was a kid it was fun thing to collect, no pressure.

I mean it still is to a certain extent, it's just that KH gets very little merch these days unless you import it from Japan and outside of these monthly drops the series only has two open-edition pins in the parks as merch rep.

 

[SpiderBitch]

To an extend, yes. It stems from Kabuki theater. Poses and flamboyant costumes are important in a medium that relies on things other than lines of dialogue to convey a story. Tokusatsu, at least the Henshin Hero arm of the genre, also does the same but it is aimed at men mostly.

Makes sense that early winx club was a pretty decent magical girls copy then, bc the italians that made it are also a very flamboyant people.

And the main characters were based off of various popstars and actresses instead of just being vague blobs, just like how the demon hunters are just straight up kpop stars.

Kind of funny how to movie seems to have maybe being going for an angle about growing up too fast/blindly worshipping cool older girls/yadda yadda but all the evidence shows over and over again that little girls just want to watch charming badass supermodels (or pretty horses in some cases) that happen to have superpowers sing catchy songs instead of blubbering awkward blob girls complaining about their lame 'trauma'...

Hell, even Luisa from encanto looked more feminine than the orange blob from the concept art, and the main character also lowk looked gross.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

The idea of any American studio aping "Magical Girl" concepts feels blasphemous. That is a intrinsically Japanese genre and it should be considered off-limits by any Western studio because it shows a deep lack of creativity.

Magical girls came to be because of Bewitched being popular in Japan, making cute witches the quintessential magical girls. So Sabrina the Teenage Witch is like the American magical girl for our generation, it just sucks no one wants to use her as a foundation anymore.