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Eisner was a better CEO than Iger and Lasseter. At least he didn't push Star Wars and capeshit everywhere at the expense of actual Disney stuff.
Also, I haven't really liked a Disney film since Lilo and Stitch. There's probably a genuine reason for it, yeah, I've grown up, cartoons, blah blah blah...But there's just something missing in the new films for me to love them or just be impressed like the old. I just feel they're adequate / compliant and nothing else.
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My favorite Disney film used to be The Lion King, but now I think that goes to Lilo and Stitch.
I also loved Aladdin, Emperor’s New Groove, Beauty and the Beast, Tarzan, and Alice in Wonderland.
In a way, I feel Disney as a corporation has always been the way it is now. It's just that it's much more obvious nowadays. They seemed pretty intent on building a park despite pissing off an entire country if that Defunctland video was any indication. And they threw out shitty low budget spin offs and sequels to their more successful films for nearly two decades. Now they don't seem to have much in the way of original ideas and are trying to recapture the lightning in the bottle that was the Disney Renaissance.
I'd imagine when Disney himself died, a lot of the integrity of the company died with it, and even then when I hear about something like say Mary Poppins' origins, I'm not even sure about that either.
At the very least though, underneath it all are people who genuinely want to make good films.
A big part of it is most likely nostalgia, but there is this sense of genuineness to it that I really enjoyed and learned to appreciate now. That weird marketing campaign it had with Stitch hijacking other movies? It actually fits the movie's general theme of desiring to belong and having difficulty fitting in. Can't really think of any other film that does this sort of thing.
Also I only just realized the reason Lilo feeds Pudge and makes a big deal about it is because she probably assumed Pudge caused the rain that led to her parents' car crash. This was never explained directly, but it can be figured out when considering the context. A lesser film would probably explain it very clearly, but the writers took a gamble and left the viewer to figure it out for themselves.
Also I only just realized the reason Lilo feeds Pudge and makes a big deal about it is because she probably assumed Pudge caused the rain that led to her parents' car crash. This was never explained directly, but it can be figured out when considering the context. A lesser film would probably explain it very clearly, but the writers took a gamble and left the viewer to figure it out for themselves.
I also loved Aladdin, Emperor’s New Groove, Beauty and the Beast, Tarzan, and Alice in Wonderland.
In a way, I feel Disney as a corporation has always been the way it is now. It's just that it's much more obvious nowadays. They seemed pretty intent on building a park despite pissing off an entire country if that Defunctland video was any indication. And they threw out shitty low budget spin offs and sequels to their more successful films for nearly two decades. Now they don't seem to have much in the way of original ideas and are trying to recapture the lightning in the bottle that was the Disney Renaissance.
I'd imagine when Disney himself died, a lot of the integrity of the company died with it, and even then when I hear about something like say Mary Poppins' origins, I'm not even sure about that either.
At the very least though, underneath it all are people who genuinely want to make good films.
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I wish discussion about Disney as a company was more nuanced. Just a tad bit. Because whenever anyone criticizes Disney, they always end up sounding like Maddox and using the usual crutches like "Hey, Didny is greedy! No cool!"
My favorite Disney movies are Beauty and the Beast, Hercules, Mulan, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I look back on all four with a tear in my eye.
My favorite Disney movies are Beauty and the Beast, Hercules, Mulan, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I look back on all four with a tear in my eye.
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Yeah about management Eisner wasn't as bad as his successors for the parks but iirc he's the reason all the shops in all the parks had to start turning a profit killing off the cool places that were more on the "not quite an attraction" side of things like the antique shops, the half-day parks and the general slide in upkeep started under his watch, too.
On the other hand as far as I recall reading previous to Eisner the company on the whole was on pretty shaky ground after Walt died, especially through the expenses of building EPCOT Center, so meh.
On the other hand as far as I recall reading previous to Eisner the company on the whole was on pretty shaky ground after Walt died, especially through the expenses of building EPCOT Center, so meh.
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What I find hard to believe is how Disney managed to turn a bunch of shitty Hanna-Barbera animators into their second-best animation team.
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I think after they put the Aracuan Bird in they won me over.
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Really? I couldn't see it there. I'll have to look again
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I still to this day love Bedknobs and broomsticks. It was produced by Disney so I think it counts. Something about summoning up an army of magical armor to fight Nazis is just so funny to me.
I was never a fan of Frozen. And I know this will sound nit picky as hell, but I love the story The Snow Queen, and Frozen is not the Snow Queen at all. (Same reason I don't care for Hercules, did like the art style) That's what I get for reading the stories first.
I was never a fan of Frozen. And I know this will sound nit picky as hell, but I love the story The Snow Queen, and Frozen is not the Snow Queen at all. (Same reason I don't care for Hercules, did like the art style) That's what I get for reading the stories first.
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I think people are too harsh on Frozen. YES, call me a basic bitch. Fine. YES, the marketing is obnoxious as is that goddamn snowman. YES, we're all sick of the songs.
But honestly, I think people are more or less just pissed that, for a while, the movie was everywhere. People got sick of it and it sort of became the next cool thing to shit all over it. Suddenly everyone was like ZOMG!!11 BETTER THAN FROZEN!!111
I'm not about to sit here and tell you that Frozen is the greatest Disney film ever because it's not. But it's a fun little movie with a nice message at the end and I think that people unfairly over-hyped it and over-hated it. Part of me deep down is sure that had Lion King or Aladdin come out during the age of the internet and youtube, they'd receive the same irrational levels of hate considering how their marketing and songs would have been spread everywhere like wildfire.
Basically, the only thing worse than hardcore Frozen fans are the autistic haters that foam at the mouth every time the movie is mentioned in a sentence that is less than that of pure undiluted rage.
But honestly, I think people are more or less just pissed that, for a while, the movie was everywhere. People got sick of it and it sort of became the next cool thing to shit all over it. Suddenly everyone was like ZOMG!!11 BETTER THAN FROZEN!!111
I'm not about to sit here and tell you that Frozen is the greatest Disney film ever because it's not. But it's a fun little movie with a nice message at the end and I think that people unfairly over-hyped it and over-hated it. Part of me deep down is sure that had Lion King or Aladdin come out during the age of the internet and youtube, they'd receive the same irrational levels of hate considering how their marketing and songs would have been spread everywhere like wildfire.
Basically, the only thing worse than hardcore Frozen fans are the autistic haters that foam at the mouth every time the movie is mentioned in a sentence that is less than that of pure undiluted rage.
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I used all the terms I could think of to find the book on comixology.
In other news, the Aladdin poster has been posted online
Looks pretty cool if you ask me
The new trailer for WIR 2 has also gone live.
It's about the same as the other trailers. Nothing that new really, except for the notion that the internet isn't meant for porn.
First I checked robin hood but it wasn't there
Next was Mickey but it wasn't there either.
Last I checked under Floyd Gottfredson, just to make sure.
There was only one book.
I think my answer lies in this image
. I think Comixology knows that I'm not in North America (due to being Australian).
I guess I'll have to find another way
Next was Mickey but it wasn't there either.
Last I checked under Floyd Gottfredson, just to make sure.
There was only one book.
I think my answer lies in this image
. I think Comixology knows that I'm not in North America (due to being Australian).I guess I'll have to find another way
In other news, the Aladdin poster has been posted online
Looks pretty cool if you ask me
The new trailer for WIR 2 has also gone live.
It's about the same as the other trailers. Nothing that new really, except for the notion that the internet isn't meant for porn.
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I love all of Martin's ride videos, but this one has to be my favorite:
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Jesus Christ, that is horrifying.
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I'm equal parts fancinated and horrified.
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I went on it once during its technical rehersal. As crappy as the overall show was, I'd be lying if I didn't think the Stitch animatronic was fucking impressive.
It's a shame Disney's been moving away from animatronic-heavy shows and rides in favor of more screen-based (and in the case of what's rumored to be replacing Stitch, a Wreck-it-Ralph VR ride) attractions that are cheaper to run. I always thought the technology was cool.
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Yeah Martin's got a great body of work. As for Great Movie Ride? It was nice.
EuroDisney had some way underrated stuff, like their Vincent Price hosted Phantom Manor, and their Pirates was well done.
I've heard that Iago looked similarly horrific after the Tiki Gods destroyed Under New Management.
Alien Encounter was fun. Tim Curry robot was cool.
Is there a copy of the EuroDisney English dub of Timekeeper? Over there he was just some Carousel Of Progress / Horizons Dad voice instead of Robin Williams.
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I am a fan of Frozen. Call me sentimental, but I really loved the message of the importance of family (I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff). I think it's a really good message to show to little kids, too ... So hey, Frozen gets my stamp of approval. It's also a movie that I love to break out during Christmastime, because all of the winter imagery is so gorgeous.
Hell, I didn't even mind the "Olaf's Frozen Adventure" special that was shown in theaters before Coco (when everyone else "REEEEEE'd" about it, it seems). Hey, I got my fun Christmas-themed Frozen thing, so I was happy. lol. I thought it was adorable, but hey, I'm biased because I love Christmas stuff.
When I first saw Frozen in theaters, I had NOTHING spoiled for me ... So the whole "Let it Go" sequence will forever be a favorite movie theater memory of mine. My jaw hit the floor the first time I saw it. It melted my cold, cynical heart. And I will listen to "Let it Go" on full blast whenever the mood strikes me, because fuck all of you, it's a great song. lol.
One thing I will say though: Disney missed a huge opportunity to release a documentary about the making of the film, as it was a very rough process from what I heard. It was in production hell, based on what I have heard. If I were running things at Disney, I would totally release a documentary about how they expected the movie to be a disaster, but then it turned out being pretty much their biggest movie ever. I'm sure it's an interesting story to tell.
I would love to see some sequences they had animated in 2D, when they were planning to adapt The Snow Queen more accurately, too. While I think that Disney has recently done some amazing things with computer animation (for instance, I can't imagine Rapunzel's hair looking nearly as amazing in 2D, nor the water in Moana), I still have an affinity for their 2D animation.
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Eh, I didn't care for Frozen. I've only watched it the one time years ago, but when I watched it I honestly didn't see what's so great about it. I think I'm just more upset at the fact that originally Elsa was the villain, but when they recorded "Let It Go" they decided to rewrite everything to make her more like a tragic victim or oppressed or something like that. Because clearly having the idea of two siblings with two opposing views and having to learn to reconcile with each other is too much for a child to handle (like how often do you get stories where the protagonist and antagonist are siblings?). And there was something about their sisterly love that felt a bit... off to me. Like I don't think it's a coincidence that Anna and Elsa became a popular incest pairing, which actually unnerves me that it's really popular for some ungodly reason.
Their parents were also some of the most forgettable, if not dumbest parents I've ever seen in a Disney film, tbh. You could argue they didn't know how to raise a daughter with ice powers (where did the powers come from? Fuck you, it's magic, stop asking questions) and that it was the wrong thing to do in forcing her to suppress them after almost accidentally killing Anna, but maybe it was just contrived writing. And it was almost laughable how they were written out of the story within I think the first five minutes.
The trolls were the worst part of the film. You could get used to Olaf because of his role in the story, but you could take out the trolls and nothing would be lost. They're the film's equivalent of Hunchback's gargoyles, but the gargoyles had the better song (not by much, mind you). They also stole away what's-his-face from his parents in backstory (far as I remember, he's actually not an orphan), like knowing that, why did the king and queen trust them to heal Anna, again? Did the kingdom worship them or something? What's the kingdom called again, and what's the kingdom like?
Their parents were also some of the most forgettable, if not dumbest parents I've ever seen in a Disney film, tbh. You could argue they didn't know how to raise a daughter with ice powers (where did the powers come from? Fuck you, it's magic, stop asking questions) and that it was the wrong thing to do in forcing her to suppress them after almost accidentally killing Anna, but maybe it was just contrived writing. And it was almost laughable how they were written out of the story within I think the first five minutes.
The trolls were the worst part of the film. You could get used to Olaf because of his role in the story, but you could take out the trolls and nothing would be lost. They're the film's equivalent of Hunchback's gargoyles, but the gargoyles had the better song (not by much, mind you). They also stole away what's-his-face from his parents in backstory (far as I remember, he's actually not an orphan), like knowing that, why did the king and queen trust them to heal Anna, again? Did the kingdom worship them or something? What's the kingdom called again, and what's the kingdom like?