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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Trilby said:
I see Disney authorized this following "redux" of Mickey's famous cartoon. Not bad given the talent involved, though I could tell they didn't animate a few scenes like the cat being swung around by its tail or Mickey plays with the mama pig's teats (this would be noticeable as the audio goes out of sync heard here).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PLuua1HIOr8
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Mickey playing with the pig's teats is cut out of the official post of the cartoon proper on YouTube.

Many years ago, though, when I went to Disney World, they had it playing on a loop of cartoons on the hotel TV and it was uncut. I remember it quite clearly.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Mickey playing with the pig's teats is cut out of the official post of the cartoon proper on YouTube.
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That's not all, the cat also had to go too.

Many years ago, though, when I went to Disney World, they had it playing on a loop of cartoons on the hotel TV and it was uncut. I remember it quite clearly.
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But yeah, it's interesting how often the cartoon is either uncut or edited depending on what version happens to be used like that.
 
Cyborg Scars said:
I was trying to say fuckable but I must've misstyped. All I can say to the positive answer is that I don't want to live on this planet anymore and that the internet was a mistake. Still, I should have expected it to exist, especially knowing the kind ofeople into cartoon beastiality
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I'm very concerned about past you.
Stab You in the Back said:
Finally got a chance to see Incredibles 2 on dvd after skipping it when it was in theaters. Like most Pixar sequels, it was unnecessary. I don't think the film did anything that hadn't been done in the first film or repeated ad naseum over the last ten years of Marvel movies.
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There is one thing it has over the original...
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...Less Bob, more bobs and vagene.
 
Honestly, the original movie is a decade old at this point. Why wasn't the sequel X-rated? :philthy:
 
Trilby said:
I see Disney authorized this following "redux" of Mickey's famous cartoon. Not bad given the talent involved, though I could tell they didn't animate a few scenes like the cat being swung around by its tail or Mickey plays with the mama pig's teats (this would be noticeable as the audio goes out of sync heard here).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PLuua1HIOr8
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Any thoughts on why the pig would have to go? I understand the cat due to animal cruelty, but why specifically the pig? Sexual content?

My over all opinion of the Redux is that it's basically just a higher budget reanimation project like the Mama Luigi one, or the Dover Boys one. It's probably inferior to such a thing however as it's cut down from the original, and it doesn't add in jokes to the scenes where possible to add new content. I did really like some of the animation showcased. It was pretty good but not a big fan of that censorship.

2odastream said:
I'm very concerned about past you.
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Me too man. Concerned about present me too, given that my website of choice is an internet bullying forum, and all I do is frequent the multimedia section, and occasionally articles and happenings. Let's hope future me gets things sorted out, huh?
 
Does anyone remember those Disney read along tapes where you can listen and read to old Disney books based on the movies?
I remember they even had Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby (which I remember the most) and a story about Tale Spin.

I played those cassette tapes a lot in my childhood.


"Said Brer Fox."
"Said Brer Fox."
"Said Brer Fox."
"Said Brer Fox."
 
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Cyborg Scars said:
Any thoughts on why the pig would have to go? I understand the cat due to animal cruelty, but why specifically the pig? Sexual content?
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Either that or simply animal cruelty, since Mickey does pull the baby pigs' tails first before going after mama pig's teats. They used to leave the cat scene alone for decades.

Oscar Wildean said:
Does anyone remember those Disney read along tapes where you can listen and read to old Disney books based on the movies?
I remember they even had Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby (which I remember the most) and a story about Tale Spin.

I played those cassette tapes a lot in my childhood.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=u9svyIqwbOg
"Said Brer Fox."
"Said Brer Fox."
"Said Brer Fox."
"Said Brer Fox."
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I had these as records instead of tapes! They're know as "Readalongs".
 
2odastream said:
I'm very concerned about past you.

There is one thing it has over the original...View attachment 589546
...Less Bob, more bobs and vagene.
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Because sex sells - otherwise, I ain't in no hurry to see this. It really looks and feels like nothing special, which is an absolute mistake to make when you want me to get interested in what you have to show me and/or say to me.
 
I watched The Emperor's New Groove for the first time in years the other day, and honestly it might be one of my favorite Disney films for just how different it is from the movies that came before it. The movie isn't as dramatic or heartfelt as the Disney Renaissance period, but that's why it works for me. It's a goofy, funny movie that has its own identity. It's just so different compared to what Disney was pumping out at the time, sometimes I forget it's from Disney at all.

And even beyond that, the movie just has a lot of charm. I actually like David Spade so Kuzco never came off as annoying to me, and I've always liked Kuzco's chemistry with Pacha. Yzma and Kronk are also funny as hell.

Would Kingdom of the Sun have been a better movie? Perhaps. But I don't know if it could have distinguished itself as well as The Emperor's New Groove did.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
I watched The Emperor's New Groove for the first time in years the other day, and honestly it might be one of my favorite Disney films for just how different it is from the movies that came before it. The movie isn't as dramatic or heartfelt as the Disney Renaissance period, but that's why it works for me. It's a goofy, funny movie that has its own identity. It's just so different compared to what Disney was pumping out at the time, sometimes I forget it's from Disney at all.

And even beyond that, the movie just has a lot of charm. I actually like David Spade so Kuzco never came off as annoying to me, and I've always liked Kuzco's chemistry with Pacha. Yzma and Kronk are also funny as hell.

Would Kingdom of the Sun have been a better movie? Perhaps. But I don't know if it could have distinguished itself as well as The Emperor's New Groove did.
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Yzma is one of my favorite Disney villains. Eartha Kitt's comedic timing with Patrick Warburton is 100% golden.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
I watched The Emperor's New Groove for the first time in years the other day, and honestly it might be one of my favorite Disney films for just how different it is from the movies that came before it. The movie isn't as dramatic or heartfelt as the Disney Renaissance period, but that's why it works for me. It's a goofy, funny movie that has its own identity. It's just so different compared to what Disney was pumping out at the time, sometimes I forget it's from Disney at all.

And even beyond that, the movie just has a lot of charm. I actually like David Spade so Kuzco never came off as annoying to me, and I've always liked Kuzco's chemistry with Pacha. Yzma and Kronk are also funny as hell.

Would Kingdom of the Sun have been a better movie? Perhaps. But I don't know if it could have distinguished itself as well as The Emperor's New Groove did.
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I think everything worked out for the best in the end. I like The Emperor's New Groove quite a bit, and honestly, if it had been done as a serious film it wouldn't have been half as memorable.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
Would Kingdom of the Sun have been a better movie? Perhaps. But I don't know if it could have distinguished itself as well as The Emperor's New Groove did.
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Eh, who knows. I'm still confused why it is Emperor got a TV spin-off because far as I can tell, it was one of the more forgettable TV spin-offs.

Now I'm still fighting with myself on whether-or-not Kronk's New Groove should be considered a true sequel or whatever. Like it might not actually even be funny anymore now that I think about it, even though it gave us a Yzma song at the very least (her original villain song's still better). I dunno, it's been a good long time since I last watched it, though the animation quality isn't all that bad for a direct-to-video from what I remember, kinda like how Stitch Has A Glitch's animation was on-par with the original film.

Speaking of, it's actually a fucking shame Glitch was released so late when the TV series was wrapping up. Had they played their cards right, they could've released it before as a legit direct sequel, and it'd be a bit more memorable and perhaps not get held down by being super predictable. 'Cause Stitch dying from a malfunction is legit emotional as fuck.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
Eh, who knows. I'm still confused why it is Emperor got a TV spin-off because far as I can tell, it was one of the more forgettable TV spin-offs.
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I am too, considering Disney was embarrassed by the film and tried its best to hide it.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
I watched The Emperor's New Groove for the first time in years the other day, and honestly it might be one of my favorite Disney films for just how different it is from the movies that came before it. The movie isn't as dramatic or heartfelt as the Disney Renaissance period, but that's why it works for me. It's a goofy, funny movie that has its own identity. It's just so different compared to what Disney was pumping out at the time, sometimes I forget it's from Disney at all.

And even beyond that, the movie just has a lot of charm. I actually like David Spade so Kuzco never came off as annoying to me, and I've always liked Kuzco's chemistry with Pacha. Yzma and Kronk are also funny as hell.

Would Kingdom of the Sun have been a better movie? Perhaps. But I don't know if it could have distinguished itself as well as The Emperor's New Groove did.
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Kuzco is the one Disney protagonist my parents can remember. He is the most unique one for being an unabashed selfish asshole (I'm sure you could say some of the other protagonists are selfish or assholes, but it seems to be unintended since most Disney protagonists are meant to be firmly good guys)
 
Stab You in the Back said:
I may be misremembering, but I believe that the film was something of a sleeper hit when it came out. A big word-of-mouth movie for the college-aged crowd.
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It was a sleeper hit. Disney was trying to promote the sequel to that crappy live-action 101 Dalmatians, and Emperor's New Groove did better than that did.
 
I remember it was very well-liked when it was in theaters. It seemed a lot more successful once it went out on video. Everyone I knew watched and loved it. So I would call it a success on Disney's part. Even now, it's pretty well received and not as politicized as some of the other animated movies. It's just a fun movie and Disney shaking things up with a full-fledged comedy was a welcome change of pace, though I'm curious to see what Kingdom of the Sun would have been like.
 
It's just too bad that Disney's gone out of their way to try and erase The Sweatbox from existence, or to just throw it in some dark corner where no one would ever think to look, so the only way to watch it is to go through like a web archive or some other shady torrent site. I get it was Disney trying to protect their image, but there were a lot of important, interesting things talked about in the documentary that one: doesn't sugarcoat the reality of what it's like to work on a film (of any kind) for future aspiring filmmakers, and two: answers some questions about Emperor's conception that some folks may have had about it. Maybe the controversy surrounding it was "bad press" or something, but I dunno, I think it was a story that needed to be told.

Didn't something similar happen with like Beauty and the Beast or another film from that era, but the details got lost to time? Disney doesn't seem to like to talk about what goes on in "the sweatbox" for anything. Maybe they secretly regretted hiring Sting because of that, or that it was just some really unfortunate timing, or everyone's optimism and energy was just so high that no one had expected it or wanted to believe it would be shot down so hard.

(Was there any proof there's a connection between Kingdom of the Sun and Road to El Dorado, or was just that super coincidental, just out of curiosity?)
 
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