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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%

  • Total voters
    1,578
This thread sometimes just fills me with a tidal wave of depression. I know Disney can be better than this. They proved that shit during the Renaissance. This is just sad and pathetic and desperate on so many levels. A visionary company known for taking classical stories and reinventing them only to stoop to lazily reinventing their own reinventions. Fucking amazing.
Disney has always been shallow, childish garbage regardless of what "era" they were in. The only reason they're seen as visionaries is because they just had the money to get to shit first and then crush other, smaller studios under their thumb. And a metric fuckton of rose-tinted glasses doesn't hurt.
 
Disney has always been shallow, childish garbage regardless of what "era" they were in. The only reason they're seen as visionaries is because they just had the money to get to shit first and then crush other, smaller studios under their thumb. And a metric fuckton of rose-tinted glasses doesn't hurt.
Also it's not Disney that is behind this shit, they were in luck to have talented people willing to work for them.
 
Disney has always been shallow, childish garbage regardless of what "era" they were in. The only reason they're seen as visionaries is because they just had the money to get to shit first and then crush other, smaller studios under their thumb. And a metric fuckton of rose-tinted glasses doesn't hurt.
Once upon a time Disney had skillful craftsmen working for them. Their animation was top notch and the only one who could match them was Don Bluth, who was a former Disney animator.
Name another company (in the west) who could even come close to their skill.

Rankin/Bass primarily focused their work on stop motion. They did a few feature length animated movies but, how much do people actually remember? The Last Unicorn was the most famous then The Hobbit, Return of the King and, Flight of Dragons.

Amblimation (Speilberg's company) made 3 animated movies then closed down. An American Tail: Fievel Goes West,We're Back and, Balto. They lasted for less than 10 years.

Dreamworks Animation made 3 non-cgi animated movies. Road to Eldardo is the only memorable one.
 
Imagine you're a hard-working animator that busted their ass off to get to Disney--basically the opposite of a Dobson. You get signed on to animate for one of their prime animated features and you know that although it will be a lot of work, you're making history here for both the world of animation and the company as a whole. You spend x plus months performing grueling work animating the same frames and characters over and over and over until finally you have a finished product. This is the accumulation of all your talent, hard work, and creativity. This is your baby.

And then barely over 20 years later the same company that eventually fired you because 2D was too much work decides to make the same movie but with 90% less effort.
They actually still employ 2D animators. They mostly make animation tests for their 3D output, the way I hear it:


Feels like a waste if you ask me.
 
They actually still employ 2D animators. They mostly make animation tests for their 3D output, the way I hear it:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PIQdpjzOUa0
Feels like a waste if you ask me.
Maybe I'm just old and sick of Pixar's style but that looks substantially better than the CG. That's some skill, that a simple animatic that's little more than a glorified mock up for something else looks that good.
 
Maybe I'm just old and sick of Pixar's style but that looks substantially better than the CG. That's some skill, that a simple animatic that's little more than a glorified mock up for something else looks that good.

I remember reading stories about Walt himself struggling with the fact that pencil tests usually had more personality and life to them than what ended up being in their movies. 101 Dalmatians was an attempt to get the pencil test to work in a feature film and is one of the reasons why that movie looks so drastically different from the films that preceded it.

Pencils of Rapunzel and Ariel:
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If we're showing off pencil test then I might as well cheat:


James Baxter did this when he was in his 20s! Guy is a goddamn legend to this day but works at DreamWorks now. Talk about talent bleed.
 
I'm not sure how much it counts as a villain song but I always loved Trust In Me from The Jungle Book. It had such a nice sound to it.


Yes, you won't unhear evil Winnie The Pooh.

There's a woman on Youtube who does Disney covers and I think she's real good. I'm surprised she doesn't do professional work, honestly.


She sang Hellfire too.

 
I think the CGI Disney Princess films do look technically impressive and hold up well today, but I don't see them having a lasting appeal. 3D animation feels like a fad and soon I think the "retro" look will be in and there will be more of a demand for hand drawn to come back, people can only have the same thing for so long.
 
This statement speaks for itself:
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-Bob "No need to create, we can remake" Iger
 
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Why does that happen?
I suppose traditional inking doesn't leave much room for errors when lines have to be perfect the first time around. You don't see too many variations in line width often in those films when it's safer to stick to a particular way.

I'm not sure how much it counts as a villain song but I always loved Trust In Me from The Jungle Book. It had such a nice sound to it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eP8wPXQmDt4
Yes, you won't unhear evil Winnie The Pooh.
And yet, I thought of the stork from Dumbo since it's the same guy too!

This statement speaks for itself:
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-Bob "No need to create, we can remake" Iger
Reminded Ron Miller passed away recently. You could say he wasn't creative either but at least he tried his best to keep that studio afloat during his tenure. He did give us The Disney Channel and Touchstone Pictures.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/ron-miller-dead-dies-former-disney-ceo-1203134582/
 
During the final act of Beauty and the Beast, Gastons big mob begins a big fight with all the living objects who are defending their castle. Isn't it weird how no one seems to be questioning this? They just go with it like they are used to battles with living objects.

If this was the Toy Story canon, they'd be so freaked out.
 
During the final act of Beauty and the Beast, Gastons big mob begins a big fight with all the living objects who are defending their castle. Isn't it weird how no one seems to be questioning this? They just go with it like they are used to battles with living objects.

If this was the Toy Story canon, they'd be so freaked out.
I would assume because they live in magical fairy tale that the mob might think it's the beast's evil magic tricks or something.
 
I would assume because they live in magical fairy tale that the mob might think it's the beast's evil magic tricks or something.
I mean, this is a world where magic isn't unheard of so if it was me I'd expect to find some sort of magic in a monster's lair. Maybe I wouldn't expect it to be exactly in the form of angry teapots and wardrobes, but nothing at all would probably be more surprising.
 
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