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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%

  • Total voters
    1,578
Offense is something that is taken far more often than it's ever given... So remember kids, when you take offense, in a way you're stealing.
 
What's in The Ugly Dachshund that's not politically correct? Or is this a generic label being slapped on everything pre-2010?
Off the top of my head there are a few Japanese American, or some other East Asian group it's been quite a while, characters in the film and they have accents.
It's not stupidly broad or anything just "L" sounding like "R" type stuff.
"Rion" instead of Lion for example.
For the like 50 odd years since the film came out no one gave a shit but it's Current Year +5 so it needs a trigger warning because people find offense in their cheerios nowadays.
 
I still don't fucking get it. Take a page from what WB did with the warnings for the Tom and Jerry cartoons.

It is an insult to James legacy by not including Song of the South. They are basically erasing history.
 
I still don't fucking get it. Take a page from what WB did with the warnings for the Tom and Jerry cartoons.

It is an insult to James legacy by not including Song of the South. They are basically erasing history.

The way I see it Disney's simply continuing their long, long tradition of simply not releasing the film. It was never on VHS, it was never on DVD, and it will not be on streaming.

I think the film deserves to be released but, in all honesty, they should have done it back when they had the Disney Treasures line. Far too expensive for children and families, geared towards adult collectors - but it would have fanned the flames of controversy anyway.
 
Off the top of my head there are a few Japanese American, or some other East Asian group it's been quite a while, characters in the film and they have accents.
It's not stupidly broad or anything just "L" sounding like "R" type stuff.
"Rion" instead of Lion for example.
For the like 50 odd years since the film came out no one gave a shit but it's Current Year +5 so it needs a trigger warning because people find offense in their cheerios nowadays.
That would do it. I keep thinking a lot of those squeaky-clean Disney flicks of the 60's and 70's would piss of someone for the slightest deviation from accepted norms of today. I'm sure Barefoot Executive pisses off some animal group since they don't send the chimp to an animal rescue service at all.

The way I see it Disney's simply continuing their long, long tradition of simply not releasing the film. It was never on VHS, it was never on DVD, and it will not be on streaming.
Not counting the one or two incidents outside North America where the film did see a VHS or LD release, in countries that obviously had no clue of how screwed up we can be.

I think the film deserves to be released but, in all honesty, they should have done it back when they had the Disney Treasures line. Far too expensive for children and families, geared towards adult collectors - but it would have fanned the flames of controversy anyway.
That window of opportunity was certainly there but sadly we missed it.
 
I might give this a miss and cherry pick shows via 3rd party sites. That or Disney can be smart and use the DVD/Blu Ray route for their shows.
DVD/Bluray? And allow you to decide when you want to watch something? Possibly years after they decide to not let you? Perish the though pleb!

It's interesting to me too see the quality of the images on DVDs from before the Bluray/HDDVD war. Unless you have a projector for the side of a building, I can't see a difference. Especially with films from the 80's and before. The film used during filming itself wasn't as neurotically precise as modern cameras, so the re-re-re-released 4K 1970 film is impossible after a point to look any better than a decent DVD print.
 
Especially with films from the 80's and before. The film used during filming itself wasn't as neurotically precise as modern cameras, so the re-re-re-released 4K 1970 film is impossible after a point to look any better than a decent DVD print.

Obviously its going to depend on the film stock, but you cannot possibly be suggesting that a 35mm print is the same quality as a fucking DVD.
 
Obviously its going to depend on the film stock, but you cannot possibly be suggesting that a 35mm print is the same quality as a fucking DVD.
Unless you are showing it on the side of a building, I highly doubt you can tell the difference between 35mm/4K/Bluray/DVD copies of "The Wizard of Oz" on a 40" (or smaller) tv.

Jesus, it's like arguing with an audiophile and how they absolutely have to have pure gold wire to listen to their 1930's jazz records.
 
So the first critics for Frozen 2 are out, apparently the film's at a 84%, and the estimate can lower in the following weeks.

My guess: it'll still make money, but it won't be the pop cultural juggernaut like the first film was. It'll come and go in a few weeks, like almost every other current Disney movie does nowadays. There'll be hype, people will talk about, and then move on to the next thing a few weeks afterwards.
 
well, with Disney's shit-ass DNR crap transfers you probably can't
This is what I am saying! FFS, why is planned obsolescence for media such a baffling concept?

When DVD was the best option available, movies were formatted to look good on DVDs. When Bluray came out and became big, movies were formatted to Bluray and then compressed to fit the DVD, rather than being formatted specifically to DVD, because if it still look damn good on DVD how are you going to get people to buy the more expensive Bluray player and discs? So a DVD of a movie from the late 90's early 2000's will look a fuckton better than a more recent DVD release, no matter how much it's claimed to be "remastered" for the 47th time.

And the same damn thing will happen to Bluray. Movies will be formatted to look good for the people who must have the newest shiniest 4K tvs, and 4K players, and then will be compressed to fit on a Bluray, and then further compressed to fit on a DVD, and everybody will start saying lol, Bluray has always been a shit, blurry, crap way of watching movies.
 
More Disney+ censorship this time with Gravity Falls. No they're not censoring any of the more gruesome scenes in the show that people'd probably understand them censoring. It's for Grunkle Stan's fez symbol...which also wouldn't be that bad, if each of the character's symbols didn't play an incredibly crucial part in the series finale, and if Disney didn't do such a half-assed job of removing the thing.
 
More Disney+ censorship this time with Gravity Falls. No they're not censoring any of the more gruesome scenes in the show that people'd probably understand them censoring. It's for Grunkle Stan's fez symbol...which also wouldn't be that bad, if each of the character's symbols didn't play an incredibly crucial part in the series finale, and if Disney didn't do such a half-assed job of removing the thing.

But why?
 
So...why did they remove Grunkle Stan's symbol at all? What was the issue?

From what I can gather they're using the European masters, which censored it out.

Disney+, in some other respects, is actually better on censorship. "Steamboat Willie" has the scene where Mickey plays the pig's teats intact, and it has both the banned episodes of Bonkers as well.
 
From what I can gather they're using the European masters, which censored it out.

Disney+, in some other respects, is actually better on censorship. "Steamboat Willie" has the scene where Mickey plays the pig's teats intact, and it has both the banned episodes of Bonkers as well.
I'm impressed they kept Mama Pig in. That was always a sticking point for me! Hopefully they'll leave in the "Martins and the Coys" segment from Make Mine Music if that ever gets on there.
 
I'm enjoying my time with Disney+ so far if only because it gives me easy access to most of the official Star Wars stuff and pretty much all the old Disney/Pixar animated movies. Don't really care too much about mediocre children's cartoons being censored or The Simpsons getting cropped to shit. The fact that some of the content has expiration dates on it is fucking asinine, though.
 
I'm enjoying my time with Disney+ so far if only because it gives me easy access to most of the official Star Wars stuff and pretty much all the old Disney/Pixar animated movies. Don't really care too much about mediocre children's cartoons being censored or The Simpsons getting cropped to shit. The fact that some of the content has expiration dates on it is fucking asinine, though.
Wouldn't doubt that's how they like to treat their properties just like how they kept taking out and throwing things back into the fabled Disney Vault®.
 
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