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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

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Why was a bare female butt acceptable in 1984 but not in 2020? You'd think things would only get edgier over time, not regress.

I miss the edge American culture used to have in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, everything is so pussified now.
 
Why was a bare female butt acceptable in 1984 but not in 2020? You'd think things would only get edgier over time, not regress.

I miss the edge American culture used to have in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, everything is so pussified now.

The 2010's saw a big pushback towards nudity and sex in film in general. Certain pay tv stations, HBO especially, exploited this. This is why we saw 'sexposition' become so popular. Though even this has seen a big pushback and has basically died after Game of Thrones exec's made a fuss over it and convinced most of the major cable players to dial back.

The mid 80's to about 2005 were a really interesting time. We saw sex/nudity in even PG-13 stuff. Art house stuff was even pushing actual penetration and real sex between the actors. Blue is the Warmest Color was probably the last gasp throwback to it, but only really got a pass since it was mainly graphic lesbian sex. (So it met the approval of the tumblr LGBT community.) It wasn't something like 9 Songs from 2004. Where the heterosexual leads had real oral and vaginal sex on camera. (With and without use of a condom at that.)

The early 90's also had a ton of erotic thrillers and 'coming of age sexually' stories like Basic Instinct, The Lover, Color of Night, etc. You just don't see those made anymore for the silver screen.

It's a pendulum though. Eventually things will swing back. We've already started to see artists really frustrated with how stale studios have become thanks to the China/SJW pandering. I'm betting we'll see theaters continue to become irrelevant and a big push towards directors that want to push boundaries again. (Like Lucas, Spielberg and others did in the 70's)
 
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It's less that you can't get away with nudity in films these days and more that they don't want nudity associated with the Disney brand.
 
It's less that you can't get away with nudity in films these days and more that they don't want nudity associated with the Disney brand.
There was also a change in the overall ratings system. When there was "G", "PG", and "R" people could get away with flashing an ass if there wasn't any sexual undertone. After PG13 came out they started to get neurotic more and more, until any flash of an ass or titty immediately made your movie R rated, which immediately dropped your profits as you lost the teenage demographic. So movies rated PG13 got safer and safer.

Nowadays PG13 is a weaker PG, PG is the new G, and G rating is only applied to movies made for toddlers. Compare the animated Snow White/Sleeping Beauty (G rating), with the newer Tangled/Frozen (PG rating). Do the earlier movies have less violence and scary scenes? Not really. I'd honestly say there's more mindfuck scenes in Snow White than Frozen. But people are weak and want their pwecious babbys to never see anything that might upset them until they're ten.

If Secrets of Nimh were made nowadays it'd be PG13, rather than G.
 
It's less that you can't get away with nudity in films these days and more that they don't want nudity associated with the Disney brand.

That's why it was originally released under the Touchstone label. But even then, of course, people were shocked and aghast that Disney was making movies for adults. Now Touchstone doesn't even exist anymore, but Disney still owns the films... so you have things like this.
 
It's less that you can't get away with nudity in films these days and more that they don't want nudity associated with the Disney brand.

And some soccer moms already complained back in 1994 about a short scene in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" where Jessica Rabbit didn't wear underwear.

Meanwhile, Ducktales put a gay dad couple. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/disney-introduces-gay-dad-couple-to-kids-in-reboot-of-ducktales


April 14, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Disney has introduced a male couple as the parents of two youngsters in the reboot of its popular DuckTales.

The show previously had only hinted about Violet’s gay dads, but the season three opener left nothing to the imagination. It also revealed that Violet’s dads have adopted her best friend, Lena.

In season three’s first episode, as Lena steps forward to be recognized during a Junior Woodchuck meeting, her excited sister cheers for her from the crowd, shouting, “That’s my sister from a couple misters.” Violet is seated next to two adult males, each wearing a tee shirt proclaiming “I’M WITH DAD” and an arrow pointing to the other half of the male couple.

How big are the chances then that episode will be broadcast in the Middle East?
 
Why was a bare female butt acceptable in 1984 but not in 2020? You'd think things would only get edgier over time, not regress.

I miss the edge American culture used to have in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, everything is so pussified now.
That's how I feel. It's like we took so many steps forward during that time, now we suddenly steered all the way back to the start. I recall the big stink that happen when someone noticed they erased the breasts from a sequence in one Disney film.
 
That's why it was originally released under the Touchstone label. But even then, of course, people were shocked and aghast that Disney was making movies for adults. Now Touchstone doesn't even exist anymore, but Disney still owns the films... so you have things like this.

Oh God that reminds me, did they touch Arachnophobia putting it on Disney+?
 
You know, I watched a few episodes of that show and found it to be okay, but if this is their agenda I think that I'll skip it. There have been a number of western cartoon directors who complain about the lack of shipping in kids cartoons... since they couldnt get a job writing romance novels I guess.

For the record I dont have Disney+, and actively tell people not to feed that overgrown cultural parasite.
I miss the edge American culture used to have in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, everything is so pussified now.

You cant have angry eyebrows in kids cartoons anymore from what I've heard, we cant have kids growing up knowing that anger is a normal emotion that you need to find ways to control...but gay ducks are okay.
 
That's how I feel. It's like we took so many steps forward during that time, now we suddenly steered all the way back to the start. I recall the big stink that happen when someone noticed they erased the breasts from a sequence in one Disney film.

Wow, when even 1940s Disney was edgier you know things have gotten bad.

To be frank, I think this is tied in with the SJW/feminist hatred of the female body, even mid 20th century America as conservative as it was could acknowledge the beauty of the female form.

But SJWs hate beauty and celebrate ugliness.

Oh God that reminds me, did they touch Arachnophobia putting it on Disney+?

I would hope not since there was no actual nudity in that movie, only implied.

The 2010's saw a big pushback towards nudity and sex in film in general. Certain pay tv stations, HBO especially, exploited this. This is why we saw 'sexposition' become so popular. Though even this has seen a big pushback and has basically died after Game of Thrones exec's made a fuss over it and convinced most of the major cable players to dial back.

The mid 80's to about 2005 were a really interesting time. We saw sex/nudity in even PG-13 stuff. Art house stuff was even pushing actual penetration and real sex between the actors. Blue is the Warmest Color was probably the last gasp throwback to it, but only really got a pass since it was mainly graphic lesbian sex. (So it met the approval of the tumblr LGBT community.) It wasn't something like 9 Songs from 2004. Where the heterosexual leads had real oral and vaginal sex on camera. (With and without use of a condom at that.)

The early 90's also had a ton of erotic thrillers and 'coming of age sexually' stories like Basic Instinct, The Lover, Color of Night, etc. You just don't see those made anymore for the silver screen.

It's a pendulum though. Eventually things will swing back. We've already started to see artists really frustrated with how stale studios have become thanks to the China/SJW pandering. I'm betting we'll see theaters continue to become irrelevant and a big push towards directors that want to push boundaries again. (Like Lucas, Spielberg and others did in the 70's)

There's also Shortbus from 2006 which had an orgy scene of dozens of people fucking unsimulated and scenes where an Asian actress masturbates for real.

Shortbus was directed by LGBT filmmaker John Cameron Mitchell and LGBT culture used to be more sex positive in general, now they hate heterosexuality.

But just in general there used to be tons of nudity in American movies, especially in the comedy genre, there was a time in which almost every comedy movie would have at least one pair of bare breasts, the last comedy I saw that had nudity was Hot Tub Time Machine and even then that was meant to be a throwback to the 1980s movies it was riffing on.

That's why it was originally released under the Touchstone label. But even then, of course, people were shocked and aghast that Disney was making movies for adults. Now Touchstone doesn't even exist anymore, but Disney still owns the films... so you have things like this.

Touchstone hasn't been defunct for too long, Wikipedia lists their last movie as 2016, but they do seem to be abandoned now.
 
That's why it was originally released under the Touchstone label. But even then, of course, people were shocked and aghast that Disney was making movies for adults.
I think hyper conservatives still are, regardless if the studio is defunct or not. They use it as their excuse for not even watching the family friendly stuff, because it's not good enough for them.

If Secrets of Nimh were made nowadays it'd be PG13, rather than G.
Don Bluth himself was shocked that it didn't get a PG rating at the time. And hell, don't forget that The Land Before Time had the protagonist kids decide to drop a boulder on an adult T-rex to kill him (and succeed).
 
You cant have angry eyebrows in kids cartoons anymore from what I've heard, we cant have kids growing up knowing that anger is a normal emotion that you need to find ways to control...but gay ducks are okay.
Sad. I feel like the Peggy Charren descendants have won.

Wow, when even 1940s Disney was edgier you know things have gotten bad.

To be frank, I think this is tied in with the SJW/feminist hatred of the female body, even mid 20th century America as conservative as it was could acknowledge the beauty of the female form.

But SJWs hate beauty and celebrate ugliness.
They'd probably hate Fred Moore too since he was behind these sexy chicks!
https://www.traditionalanimation.com/2018/freddie-moore-girls-the-art-of-fred-moore/

I would hope not since there was no actual nudity in that movie, only implied.
I saw that film many times and I don't recall anything beyond people being killed off my spiders anyway.

But just in general there used to be tons of nudity in American movies, especially in the comedy genre, there was a time in which almost every comedy movie would have at least one pair of bare breasts, the last comedy I saw that had nudity was Hot Tub Time Machine and even then that was meant to be a throwback to the 1980s movies it was riffing on.
I feel like nobody could make a movie like Porky's anymore.
 
Sad. I feel like the Peggy Charren descendants have won.


They'd probably hate Fred Moore too since he was behind these sexy chicks!
https://www.traditionalanimation.com/2018/freddie-moore-girls-the-art-of-fred-moore/


I saw that film many times and I don't recall anything beyond people being killed off my spiders anyway.


I feel like nobody could make a movie like Porky's anymore.

Porky's, with it's infamous shower scene with a group of full frontal nude girls, would probably get an NC-17 rating today.

Even for it's day Porky's was pretty edgy and envelope pushing, while there's a few movies with similar scenes most comedies of the era like Animal House and Caddyshack were content with just topless nudity, not full frontal.

So you can imagine how Porky's would go over today, I'm being quite serious when I say the shower scene would net it an NC-17 rating even though it's just nudity, not graphic sex scenes.

What's weird is the MPAA started to really crack down on film content long before SJWs came along, ever seen the 2006 documentary This Film Is Not Yet Rated? It details how ridiculous the MPAA is and how they act like a censorship by proxy board unconstitutionally, eerily anticipating today's social media controversies.

Sad irony is that movie was made by a group of LA liberals who were enthusiastically pro free speech then but probably aren't anymore.

Anyway, the scene in Arachnophobia features a girl taking a shower while a spider crawls around, there's no nudity beyond some sideboob.

On a side note, Arachnophobia is a way underrated movie, love that film.
 
Sad. I feel like the Peggy Charren descendants have won.

It could be interesting to see how the Peggy Charren descendants would react now then NBC showed violent news reports instead of cartoons on Saturday morning or we could ask if you're against sexy scenes in cartoons, what do you think of inclusion of LGBT characters? I have a feeling then there might be double standards.
 
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