"Diverse" works that aren't woke - when diversity does not fuck a movie/game/book/show up

[Oats12345]

Really most thing before 2010 (ie, CURRENT YEAR) that had diverse characters made them fallible and didn't hate white people. Obama's race baiting pretty much killed modern popular culture.

I totally agree growing up I watch staff like stargate SG1 and I never saw Teal'c as the black member of the team. But as Teal'c jaffa and member of SG1 and a badass.

Same with Dr. Franklin in Babylon 5. Didn't see him as a black man but a great character who had his own flaws and intresting history to say the least. Susan Invanova was Jewish and was awsome.

So yes I agree Obama race baiting help kill modern culture and that's one of the many reasons I can't stand the man.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

Lando Calrissian? I hear Billy Dee Williams complained that he didn't want to be the token black guy in Star Wars, but I'd be very surprised if anyone thought of him that way.

Predator.

Star Trek. Every series up to Voyager. Both DS9 and Voyager had only one white male human character in the main cast.

I never watched any Trek after that so

 

[Santa Fe Swag]

The rush hour series comes to mind. Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan have a great onscreen chemistry and the movies poke fun at both of their cultures which makes it feel more like how people of different backgrounds actually interact with eachother. The problem with modern woke is that it's all about diversity but never let's itself laugh at any of it. Bonus points to the scene in the third one where Carter makes the French cab driver sing the American national anthem at gun point.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Besides what I said earlier, I don't think we should count any Japanese/French (looking at you, Arcane) works since it's really the Anglosphere that's been cucked beyond belief with diversity (with the exception being an American studio held by Japanese).
So with those limitations (Anglosphere, post '10 and no Fantasy, cause that's cheating). The only thing I can come up with is, ironically, 40k novels, as those now consistently have black people and women without simping for them, and regularly showing them as humans rather than above morality.

 

[Glowie Hunter Art Bell]

The OG Dukes of Hazard. Hell, the first episode features a black side hero and women are prominent characters throughout the show, with Daisy usually being the problem solver.

Yellowstone is another good example. Not sure how the bughive even allows that show to exist in the modern day

 

[Woke Blue Muttlema]

I think one of the reasons that so many of the diverse characters fail is that writers make them stronger or more powerful than the white male character but give them the depth of a puddle (either out of fear of being called an -ist, or genuine incompetence) expecting the audience to like them because they can beat up the white male character but he would struggle to retaliate.
Forgetting of course that beating up someone weaker than one's self is not something that a good person dose and the audience is primed to feel more sympathetic towards the white male because he now is an underdog.

I think it has to do with the writers being mostly whites that never interacted with the people they claim to represent or ‘the diverse crowd’ that spent their entire lives hearing they were “too white” overcompensating.

 

[Nypical Haterade Comment]

The Magic School Bus is the best example. The main thing that show was worried about was teaching the viewers about science. Every classmate I had in elementary school had a character that they related with solely due to personality.
Everyone said that I was Ralphie.

Edit:
The Battlestar Galactica reboot did diversity well too. It was more about humanity as a whole rather than humanity divided up by race. When it does tackle racism it’s done very well and not preachy.

 

[Shining Wit]

This, the Joestars managed to be a family of British, American Italian, and Japanese peoples.

It's even more mutt than that

George and his wife were english, so Johnathan is fully English
Johnathan married Erina, another English woman. Their son, George II, is fully English too.
George II married Lisa Lisa, an american. So their son, Joseph, is half english, half american.
Joseph has 2 biological kids (that we know of). The elder is Holly, whose mother is Suzie Q, an Italian. So Holly is Half Italian, Quarter American, Quarter English
Holly married a japanese man, and their son is Jotaro. He is half Japanese, quarter Italian, an eigth American and an eigth English.
Jotaro married an American woman and had a daughter, Jolyne. So Jolyne is (ignoring any background heritage from her mother) 9/16ths American, 1/16th English, 1/4 Jap, 1/8 Italian. A mutt to end all mutts

Josuke and Giorno are more sensible than that branch: Josuke, as Joseph's illegitimate son, is half Jap, quarter yank and quarter english
Giorno is half english (as both Dio and Johnathan are) and half jap. Ironically, he has zero italian blood in him

 

[GlobalstarFM69]

Lost ? I don't remember it being woke.
There were a lot of characters, and several were of various ethnicities. It felt natural and not forced, it even was a positive aspect of the series I think.

 

[Open Window Maniac]

Street Fighter has people from all different races and places and that's only made a big deal of in terms of roster size.

 

[Skitarii]

The rush hour series comes to mind. Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan have a great onscreen chemistry and the movies poke fun at both of their cultures which makes it feel more like how people of different backgrounds actually interact with eachother. The problem with modern woke is that it's all about diversity but never let's itself laugh at any of it. Bonus points to the scene in the third one where Carter makes the French cab driver sing the American national anthem at gun point.

Rush Hour was intentional, but yeah hardly any of it was predicated on wokeness. Everybody Hates Chris also serves as a commentary on racism in the 1980's, but it's clearly more of a tongue-in-cheek representation of how snarky society was in the "olden days", and less of a "oh ma gad we need 2 destroy racism by promoting drag queen story hour"

 

[Car Won't Crank]

The Hotwheels Acceleracers movie series. You got Caucasians, cyborgs, androids, Asians, women, black, latino, hillbilly, African drivers all racing against a bunch of robots.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Totally agree! IMO, some early 2000s stuff did too.

Diverse characters are great when they're unique and interesting. One example I like is John Stewart from the 2000s Justice League cartoon. All that mattered was that he was Green Lantern. If Justice League were a current year cartoon, John Stewart would be an angry black man first and his role as Green Lantern would be negligible.

Honestly he's my favorite Green Lanturn

 

[Safir]

The problem with modern woke is that it's all about diversity but never let's itself laugh at any of it.

The problem with modern diversity is that it's done by nth generation whatever-Americans who want woke points for representing a culture they don't actually bear.

 

[Calandrino]

Totally agree! IMO, some early 2000s stuff did too.

Diverse characters are great when they're unique and interesting. One example I like is John Stewart from the 2000s Justice League cartoon. All that mattered was that he was Green Lantern. If Justice League were a current year cartoon, John Stewart would be an angry black man first and his role as Green Lantern would be negligible.

Hawkgirl also got affirmative action'd onto the team over the more-qualified Aquaman. The lesson is that you can do whatever you want if the writing is solid. Now we're stuck with Cyborg. Nobody likes Cyborg (anymore).

Really most thing before 2010 (ie, CURRENT YEAR) that had diverse characters made them fallible and didn't hate white people. Obama's race baiting pretty much killed modern popular culture.

The real challenge would be to find anything pre-2010 that even approaches modern wokeness. Even something as ham-fisted and retarded as Captain Planet feels pretty even-handed compared to, well, anything currently running. It's like a switch flipped. The change was sudden and covered just about everything.

 

[Some Badger]

Yeah but that's presented as a bad thing. (The serf class part.)

For a semi-mainstream show released in 2018, I’m surprised that it is. As I’ve said I haven’t touched the show but assumed from the interview with Cas Anvar that I had to scrub through for a video editing internship at the time that they were gonna frame a hyper mixed-raced future under a unified planetary government as a largely beneficial thing, because that’s exactly what I would expect from Hollywood under most circumstances.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Overlord (2007), Overlord II (2009) by Triumph Studios

 

[Oats12345]

Spoilers for the amphibia finale.

But I could say Amphibia could count. All the characters are likable in my opinion.

They even have two female frogs who are in a relationship (I didn't relaize they were together until the last minutes of the finale episode). And honselty I don't mind it since said characters were actually funny and entertaining to watch.

 

[Skitarii]

Avatar the Last Airbender before Korra took a fat steamy dump on it

 

[Elysian]

The 2005 CGI reboot of Captain Scarlet made Captain Ochre and Lieutenant Green women and it didn’t feel forced. I mean they already had an all-girl fighter pilot squad even in the original show from the 60s so it was always pretty progressive in that regard, but it was nice to see some female characters whose skill sets didn’t revolve around flying planes, Green handled all the hackerman stuff on Skybase and Ochre was one of the captains who got to go on ground missions and beat people up. Plus I feel like it made the interpersonal dynamics more interesting since Green and Colonel White have a kind of mentor/protege almost but not quite surrogate father/daughter vibe going on and Ochre gets some fun scenes fending off the advances of Captain Magenta, whose the resident playboy of the team.