Do you believe in the Supernatural? - Ghosts, the fae, demons, Oswald was a lone shooter, and other such things

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I never really believed in anything until I saw - very clearly - a young woman walking in my house in the middle of the day about five years ago. Thinking it was my girlfriend, I followed her into the utility room and there was no-one there. Only one door in or out, and thinking my girlfriend was going to jump out on me as she loves to do, I checked everywhere and still nothing. Called out to her and she was in the bathroom on the other side of the house. I built this place about a year before this happened, so it's hardly a haunted house.

I'm still not exactly a believer in ghosts, but it did give me pause for thought.
 
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Joh Keel's stuff like the 8th Tower looks at the meta behind a lot of supernatural stuff from. Fortran perspective, that is, a middle of the road examination.
 
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No. Why should I blindly believe in something without physical evidence. Hell I'm not even talking about religion, but even just concepts like karma. I mean how can karma be real when shitty people not only face zero consequences, but even are rewarded? How can karma be real when good moral and honest people are punished for being moral and honest?
 
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When I was a kid, I was reared up on ghost stories so I believed in them for a while. You'd hear weird sounds in the woods and go "That MUST be the banshee I heard about!" and you'll realize later it was just a cougar screaming out for cat dick. Every once in a while I'll hear a new sound that gives me pause, but I'll look it up when I get reception and figure out it was something mundane in a weird spot like an Elk that came all the way down here out of its normal range.
That being said, I refuse to fuck with caves. Monkey brain screams at me to run away from them anytime I look into the dark of one. There's a whole lot more of them around than you'd think too.
 
My family has had a history of almost randomized prophetic dreams. Often times of something completely inconsequential up to a year beforehand which has no apparent effect on ones life outside of a severe sudden burst of deja vu when it finally happens (ex: I will be painting this particular model, discussing this particular subject with this friend.). However sometimes they can be something far more important, and dismissing it as a dream, we often ignore it.
This has happened to me personally atleast thrice. I have spoken to everyone alive, and some (now passed) in my direct line and they have admitted to the same.

Its hard to explain just how specific this is and just how strong the wash of deja vu is when you finally carry out that moment without even seeing it coming.

I think some form of spirit may be real. Perhaps the reason we don't see spirits of ancient romans and etc is they have simply lost the energy to wander the earth or eventually find peace.
If anyone would like a real spook, listen to the testimony of Jerry Marzinsky and his works with prison schzioids, his story starts out relatively mundane and then will slowly ramp up.

With this latest discovery however, Its possible "residual hauntings" could simply be that, residual washes of what was.
 
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Tequila Jong said:
I never really believed in anything until I saw - very clearly - a young woman walking in my house in the middle of the day about five years ago. Thinking it was my girlfriend, I followed her into the utility room and there was no-one there. Only one door in or out, and thinking my girlfriend was going to jump out on me as she loves to do, I checked everywhere and still nothing. Called out to her and she was in the bathroom on the other side of the house. I built this place about a year before this happened, so it's hardly a haunted house.

I'm still not exactly a believer in ghosts, but it did give me pause for thought.
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Ghosts/spirits/etc. are real. It's just most people are NPCs whose religion is whatever Science Man is currently popular on the screen they watch. For some reason, the idea there is nothing after death is more comfortable than the horrifying thought that isn't the case to them. People would rather believe they are in control than being confronted with things that question their previous understandings. If these kinds of things only "crazy people" or "attention seekers" make up, you are still in control.

Your house can be "haunted" and be a new construction. The spirit in question may have some attachment to what was there before, soemthing nearby, you or your family, etc. Someone being even slightly open to communication may also attract them in general. Spirits are almost everywhere, they just don't always make "noise" unless they have a reason to.
 
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A-Stump said:
If ghosts are real how come there aren't a bunch of them going around saying nigger? It's always polite little Victorian girls. Think of how many racist ghosts there'd be.
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I know this is a joke, but there's been accusations of racist ghosts before. lol

And I like that everyone has family members/friends that have seen shit, but they're still like, "Nope, I'm the smart one." This shit is not to hard to investigate on your own. Jesus, some of the tools you could buy at Walmart. Hell, you can make them yourself for free. You won't necessarily like the answers you'll find, but it's not that hard. Most people say though they're skeptical and assured in their views that it's bunk, but they really don't want to find out either way.
 
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Mothra1988 said:
Most people say though they're skeptical and assured in their views that it's bunk, but they really don't want to find out either way.
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I don't go to Hindu temples looking to prove or disprove the existence of Vishnu either. Ain't nobody got time to go around trying to deboonk every baseless supernatural claim anyone has ever made.
 
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I don't go to Hindu temples looking to prove or disprove the existence of Vishnu either. Ain't nobody got time to go around trying to deboonk every baseless supernatural claim anyone has ever made.
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I said it was easy though. Zero effort. I used to do this kind of thing when I was bored at work and no one accused me of faking it.

Religions work on the concept of faith, which does not require evidence. People who have experienced ghosts/spirits have seen the evidence with their eyes. While there is obviously accounting you should do for fraud and quackery, poll your family and friends. I doubt your entire social circle is devoid of anyone who has experienced something like that.
 
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While there is obviously accounting you should do for fraud and quackery, poll your family and friends. I doubt your entire social circle is devoid of anyone who has experienced something like that.
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I wouldn't trust many of my friends and family if they said they definitely remembered turning the stove off. I'm not going to trust them about the existence of a whole other plane of reality.
 
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I wouldn't trust many of my friends and family if they said they definitely remembered turning the stove off. I'm not going to trust them about the existence of a whole other plane of reality.
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Sounds like you are admitting I'm right about that. Personally, I don't trust anyone who think they're the smartest person in their social circle, but that's just me. Most people don't have an MO to lie or make up stuff like this. This isn't some dumbass YouTuber trying to create clicks, it's your family and friends. While exaggeration and misinterpretation is possible, I don't see a motive to make shit up to people you're supposed to trust. In many cases, you will find truth there.
 
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Joh Keel's stuff like the 8th Tower looks at the meta behind a lot of supernatural stuff from. Fortran perspective, that is, a middle of the road examination.
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Any idea where I can get 8th Tower? Only Keel book easily available is Mothman Prophecies. An ebook would be dandy.

Why is it called "The 8th Tower" anyway?
 
Kind of. I believe that most of the supernatural ideas that we have are reflections of the real world. Ideas like "rage being a possessing spirit", and "Heaven and Hell both existing here on earth" are on one hand metaphors but that doesn't make them any less real.
Reality is fucking absurdo mode. I think that we've been so desensitized to the insanity of our day to day lives that we can only think of the supernatural in the most extreme terms. In the same way that a coomer can only get off to sissy futa amputee scat porn, we can only fixate on Bigfoot and ghosts while we spin through space on a rock powered by radiation and physics that we don't fully understand.
 
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I ascribe to some degree of 'seeing is believing', and - realizing how incredibly small we are in the grand scheme of things, even on our own planet - that it's far more likely for there to be truly bizarre shit happening in our deepest oceans, darkest woods, and other unwatched nooks and crannies of the universe as opposed to not, and we're only lucky to catch maybe a glimpse of its corners on the rare occasion. I think it would be just hubris for me to believe it's all just vacuous silence.
 
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Turbo autists repelling magic? Warhammer is at it again!

Imagine if magic turned out to be real, and Chris didn't have any. Ouch!
 
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