Do you believe we live in a simulation?

I have a hard time believing an intelligent being would willingly code a place like Brazil into existence.
 
I think it's more logical than anything else. While Nick Bostrom is a fucking Bilderberg-adjacent SOB, he makes a very compelling argument. It doesn't mathematically make sense that we'd be among the first 110 billion intelligent beings to be alive when one day we could easily fill the Solar System with quintillions of people or AI or bioengineered sentient monkeys. The odds of that are nil. Same thing with other shit we observe like the anthropic principle. It's still compatible with religion. For all we know, God/gods programmed the simulation, or just as likely the Demiurge and his archons did. Anything very spiritual is too hard for us to perceive, that's why divine entities like Jesus came as humans, so for a simulation of the modern world, so we perceive (or were programmed) it as a computer simulation.

I don't know if I truly believe it, but it's more compelling than any religion and meshes well with the truth of the universe which ancients guessed at well and speculated in religious texts of Hinduism or Gnosticism. We also don't know why we're here, but I think it's probably some sort of prison, purgatory, or reeducation. I've seen one speculation that we're actually part of an advanced civilization whose people are biologically immortal that demands we live the lives of primitive people of this era or else we can't be citizens. This is incidentally similar to what Irenaeus and Origen proposed almost 2,000 years ago as an answer to the problem of evil.

I'm not convinced we could ever prove it, unless someone comes down from above and tells us. We'd have to have quantum computing beyond our belief, and even then, who's to say they aren't fooling us?
I (Don't) Have A Gun said:
It's probably one of those evolutionary AI models. All the simulation technically needs to do is simulate the laws of physics as well as the state information for every single particle in existence (so just imagine what the world outside the simulation would have to be like to produce that kind of processing power...) then you add matter to the simulation and things just play out according to the rules you've set up.

Unless you're going for the Last-Thursday-ism then yes that is pretty weird.
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It wouldn't be necessary for every single particle for the same reason an open world game doesn't need to render every NPC, every monster, every dungeon, etc. at the same time. Or how games on the PS1 would have visible "pop-up" effects. For all we know, that's why we have the concept of "observable universe" since while the unobservable universe is necessary for a true universe simulation, we don't need to be able to observe it since it would take too much processing power.
Socrates said:
I have a hard time believing an intelligent being would willingly code a place like Brazil into existence.
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Of course they would, don't you like to fuck around when you play The Sims and shit?
 
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Save the Loli said:
It doesn't mathematically make sense that we'd be among the first 110 billion intelligent beings to be alive when one day we could easily fill the Solar System with quintillions of people or AI or bioengineered sentient monkeys. The odds of that are nil.
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That's retarded. It's only because we are the few intelligent beings in the world that we're aware of that fact in the first place.

It's like collecting all lottery winners in the world and then say how the odds of having all these lottery winners is nil.
 
byuu said:
That's retarded. It's only because we are the few intelligent beings in the world that we're aware of that fact in the first place.

It's like collecting all lottery winners in the world and then say how the odds of having all these lottery winners is nil.
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No, it's saying the odds of being one of those lottery winners is nil.
 
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No, it's saying the odds of being one of those lottery winners is nil.
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Yes, you've collected all these lottery winners and telling them the odds of being a lottery winner is nil, you must have imagined it.
You have pre-selected for the people who have beaten the odds and then wonder how they could've beaten the odds.
 
byuu said:
Yes, you've collected all these lottery winners and telling them the odds of being a lottery winner is nil, you must have imagined it.
You have pre-selected for the people who have beaten the odds and then wonder how they could've beaten the odds.
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You can't know who is a lottery winner in this case, therefore you can't pre-select them. So the logical thing to do is assume that out of, say, 10^20 numbers (say that's the number of people, AI, etc. who have ever lived in 10000 AD), you are not one of the first 10^11.
 
Simulation theory is just Creationism expounded or; Creationism for atheists.

And yes, we do live in a simulation.
 
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The only simulation we live in is an Etch A Sketch... filled with dirt.
 
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