Do you think bullying is a necessary evil? - What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

[Wormy]

Words don't hurt people. If some random stranger called my mother a whore, why would I care?

Then why should people care when you do the same? Are you above the rest of us that we're supposed to care?

The fact is that there are a lot of morally deficient people such as yourself out there that have garbage character traits and can't handle being called out on it.

Criticism from someone who prides themselves on harassing people means exactly fuck all to me.

Words are meaningless drivel. You should never harm anyone over something that doesn't negatively hurt anyone. It's not ok to go around punching people that pose no threat to you. This is basic stuff.

And it's also basic stuff that YOU DON'T GO AROUND HARASSING STRANGERS! Your parents failed in raising you if that lesson is lost to you.

If I wasn't bullied, I'd probably be on the other side of the looking glass. So, fuck yes. The people who don't learn from bullying just aren't being bullied enough, Teach your kids to pay attention to what they do and how to read a room, and they won't wind up naruto running to class.

And if all else fails, light into the bully, and don't hold back. Make the message clear that if you harass them, they'll suffer consequences for it. Stand up for yourself and don't let people fuck with you. Most people are smart enough to realize harassing someone isn't worth getting physically messed up.

 

[Bussyking7]

Then why should people care when you do the same? Are you above the rest of us that we're supposed to care?

Ahahahaha. No wonder your bullies made fun of your parents. They couldn't even teach their kid basic reading comprehension.

And it's also basic stuff that YOU DON'T GO AROUND HARASSING STRANGERS! Your parents failed in raising you if that lesson is lost to you.

Sweaty, how can you not figure out that we don't harass strangers. We just seek out and find ridiculous people like you and turn them into our own personal circus animals. Man do I miss my school days.

 

[Wormy]

Ahahahaha. No wonder your bullies made fun of your parents. They couldn't even teach their kid basic reading comprehension.

Sweaty, how can you not figure out that we don't harass strangers. We just seek out and find ridiculous people like you and turn them into our own personal circus animals. Man do I miss my school days.

Then have you have the balls to act offended when those "circus animals" finally get sick of your crap and kick you.

I've decided I'm done talking to you now. Here's to hoping you die soon and your kids are born retarded. Good day.

 

[Darksy DePhil]

ITT: self-hating Social Darwinists with a humilliation fetish

Most bullying isn't really "corrective". If you're just being an asshole to someone, any tough love you try to communicate to them through your actions will fly above their head, and they'll just see you as an asshole instead.
I don't buy into the "bullying corrects degeneracy" mindset, considering that A) Most bullies themselves are often into degenerate things like drugs, and B) I've seen teens shamed for the pettiest shit like just liking obscure old videogames or music, or having a slight slav accent. Things that you could shoot the shit about as an adult without getting reprimanded. If anything, giving into the bullying instead of just going "k whatever" only turns you into a repressed normalfag.

That said, i do think "not everyone is your friend" aspect is important.

 

[Kier]

Bullying people over things they can not control is overall useless even if it is hilarious. I am in FULL support of bullying people over things they could and should know better then to be doing that is well within their control.

Bullying someone because they were born with a condition is one thing, bullying someone who just straight up picks their nose at any point past pre-K is a public service. I am just saying, we had a lot less furies wearing suits around the Uni campus back when we could shove them into toilets.

The two most important things that shaped me becoming what I am today was getting picked on as a kid and learning not to fucking stand in the middle of the playground screaming WAHHBAAFETTT, and realizing at a certain point in high school that the people shitting on me for being terminally online were totally right, so I got my ass to the gym and into clubs.

I am more of a fan of the "Hey fat fuck come to the gym with us" variety but that is a bit too optimistic.

Bullying in school should be around. Zoomers coming out like complete fragile faggots who want to off themselves because of meanie words they see on a computer screen.

It is somewhat, but not as much as you would hope. Really depends on what region you are in and how close to a liberal city you are. During my brief tenure in a suburban school system, people were taken into the councilors office for wearing black a few too many days in a row. I wish I was joking. In more southern or rural districts bullying is alive and well to various degrees. Deep south is still the wild west, more urban south you may just end up getting an anti hate mob or smth on you and have a crusade of white girls trying to expel you.

 

[Reshiram Battle.mp3]

depends on the subject of the bullying, and the method and severity of the bullying. it's a kind of punishment via ridicule and harassment for infringing upon social expectations, and you don't get hung and quartered for jaywalking. i don't want literal autistic children to kill themselves, but if you have a kid saying or doing wildly inappropriate things to his peers (licking faces, touchiness, creeping on classmates when puberty hits, etc), then yeah, go the fuck off on him so he understands he has to stop that shit. ideally the teacher or parents would be the one to get him in line, but there are shit parents and shit teachers that let that fly or even enable it.

if it's some 12 year old autist child that won't shut up about pokemon and ends up being annoying or some kid in a situation out of their hands (ongoing divorce and being stressed about it), then going as hard on them (or at all) as they would for a weird proto-creep (unfortunately a classmate i had to deal with was like that in middleschool) is more cruel than anything else. Unfortunately, younger children and fucking immature young adults are cruel, so they will go too far. bullying has a beneficial role it can play, but again, fucking parents and teachers should be the ones ironing out inappropriate behavior, because (hopefully) they'd be much more level-headed and logical judges or mediators.

like, yeah, bullying can be good in some cases, but a lot of the time it's a sign that any of the adults in the situation aren't doing their damn job, either with correcting shit themselves or telling kids bullying fairly innocent children with alternative interests to knock that shit off, since at that point it's children being cruel to eachother.

Spoiler: powerlevel

i was a fucking idiot and an eccentric sperg as a child, and i'd say some of the bullying did help with not acting like i was a literal animal, but after that behavior stopped the bullying still continued because poor reputation was already built and i was stuck with the same kids in my classes for years. after a while it fucking stunted me socially because too much of a target = no friends = no one i can socialize with properly. ended up being an edgy fuck for a few years because of constant doubt in others motives if i was approached bc that was all i came to expect, for what, being a sperg over retro games?

tldr: it shouldn't be because it's often misused, but since parents just let their kids do whatever the fuck and schools wont let teachers do shit, yes.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

All I know is "bullying" made me realize I was fat and lose weight. Also made me stop acting like a childish faggot in middle school.

Now all I see are fat asses, manchildren and a weird uptick in people proudly proclaiming they have mental illness when they fuck up instead of bettering themselves.

 

[Animosa]

I got bullied a lot in elementary and highschool, I was simply too nice and my economical status was a bit better than the average kid (I'd bring my NDS and play with other kids who had it during recess) I don't think I really improved in any way from it, I was a loser/unpopular kid and I'm still a loser as a grownup, unsure if the bullying helped it or not. I'm only glad it's over. I've been called out for being too nice as a grownup so I doubt it changed anything. Just needless suffering.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Retaliation should never be allowed. Punching someone in the face because you don't like what they said is ridiculous. Granted, fighting back never works. Back when I was a bully, whenever kids decided to fight back, I always just upped the amount of bullying. Having someone hate you so much they want to fight you is hilarious.

I said “cross the line”. I didn’t say anything about words being tossed around, though I will admit that the phrase “them’s fightin‘ words” exists for a reason. I do have a question though: what did you do when you eventually lost a round of insults and kept losing, as opposed to someone trying to fight you? It had to happen at least once, law of averages and everything.

Upon reading your later posts I am gonna have to give ya a slow clap on the trolling, I didn’t think you could keep it up. I do like the magic “Bully that improved lives” bit. Might have to bank that one for later.

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

There's an Italian proverb that runs something like, 'he may only be bullied if he allows himself.'

Checks out with my own experiences. Due to crippling anxiety, shyness and depression as a teen, I used to take so much shit from faggots in high school. I was cool enough to avoid being a legit chud who got bullied all the time, but I still caught my fair share of bullshit.

I remember one day being drawn into a fight with some huge motherfucker, all because other kids stirred him up, said I said some shit when I didn't. The fight went ahead, and something just snapped in my head.

I just launched at this dude and caught him on the chin with several punches. Fell like a sack of shit and didn't want to get up.

Never got fucked with again after that, and it taught me the time old lesson of 'stand up to their shit, and you will no longer get any.'

 

[Alexander Thaut]

you learn to play the game and grow a spine.

or at least how to not be someone who gets singled out by bullies.

 

[EnemyStand]

The problem isn't bullying. Bullying still exists and will always exist no matter what you do. The problem is zero tolerance anti-conflict policies. It lets bullies do their thing with no fear of reprisal because their targets usually attempt to avoid trouble. I was a victim of this. Did it toughen me up? Yes. Am I little fucked up from the constant bullying I felt powerless to stop because the authority figures were useless? Probably. And every time I talked shit back or defended myself, I got in trouble. Either through reprisal of the bully's friends or getting smacked down by a zero zone faculty member.

Now, when my old man went to school, he was in a group of guys that went around and beat the crap out of bullies. This is a case of the community policing itself. Assholes who ran their mouths or got their rocks off beating up smaller kids got smacked down by their peers. The worst that ever happened was detention. But no, the modern philosophy is all conflict is bad no matter what the reason behind it is.

 

[Smolrolls]

The problem with bullying is you get the revenge of the nerds.

Can’t be rascist or bigot because the powers that are we’re bullied, who're the hispanics, Asians, blacks, foreigners or gen-x whites, and were called bad mean words by big bad white men. So the nerd get revenge by being successful, climbing the top ladders of corporation, being the doctors, the lawyers, the judges & building the googles, the reddits and facebooks to show those bullies that they’re better than them. Then having already been filled with spite from said bullying, along with some marxist indoctrination to help fertilize said corruption, blame traditional Christian values and countries, a la United States, for raising the bullies that tormented the nerds throughout their childhoods . And in order for the nerds to become heroes to fill their childhood insecurites, and to exact their misplace vengeance, they let the Mexicans and their nigger bamboo pets infest the country. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, right? People are greedy and lazy by nature, so the nerds increase taxes, regulations, whatever to motivate people to do what’s good for the greater good. The nerds knew what's it like to be called faggots, niggers, etc...Oh the suffering these pansy bitches suffered for having a free-living lifestyle, for being a different race, for being a faggot, for being called bad mean words, for being eccentric, for being the square peg that didn't want to go through the round hole. So to ensure these nerds kids don't suffer the same pain their parents went through, kids got to be coddled, don't you know joking might make other people laugh but will offend a few people who might be listening in? Libe a more free lifestyle, screw conservative values that tormented said nerds, down with the country who bullied these pussy-bitches fees fees when they we're so young and precious. If its conservative, if its christian, let loose the janny cocks, let loose the horde of niggers and let children, sorry adults, you know what, if adults identify as kids then who are we stop them. Hey if an adult and said kid have mutual consent, who are we to stop them.

Love shouldn't be stop.

This is not the age of hate.

This is the age of love.

No matter what gender, race or age.

And freedom of speech? I think we already know why Gen X, leftists, victims of bullying etc...want to get rid of that inappropriate concept of freedom of speech right?


Heroes are the good guys, they can’t do anything wrong, right? And if someone tells the hero that they’re doing something wrong...well, that’s just like the devil tempting Jesus to turn the stones into bread. The nerds are the heroes of their own stories, their grand narratives to hide their insecurities from all the bad mean words they got thrown by stronger white man who we're just as immature as the nerds back then, as the nerds are stuck in High School when they're grown up today. If someone tells the hero they're wrong, well that’s just another obstacle, a wolf dress in sheep's clothing, trying to veer them off their chosen course, to lead them astray the nerd’s heroic journey.



There was a kiwi that mentions getting shamed in public, getting food thrown at them by the townspeople, was a surefire way for say a degenerate to change their behavior. That’s assuming said degenerate doesn’t decide to play the long game and claws their way to the position of powers with their friends and topple the society that humiliated them.

 

[Bruhwhy145]

We place a lot of emphasis on putting an end to bullying in America, especially with the constant push for further acceptance of every little eccentricity that might present itself within the population. If you're an annoying little autistic faggot, you have every right to be and anyone who says otherwise can fuck off, essentially.

Subject-Relevant Powerleveling Ahead
When I was young, I was as autistic as they come. We're talking firing up the dial-up, drawing shitty video game webcomics, public roleplaying on MMOs and message boards, unironic "buying gf" shit. I craved internet attention like a lot of annoying autists. Real life wasn't much different, as I was a late bloomer. Catching hell became a daily activity both online and offline.

Through a combination of bullying on and offline (as well as good parenting), I began to learn that maybe being an annoying little bitch wasn't the way to live my life. I grew up into a fairly normal, if introverted, guy.
Subject-Relevant Powerleveling Over

I don't think that things would have turned out nearly as well had I been coddled and asspatted the whole way. We see an absolute epidemic of people who are incapable of handling criticism or outside opinions. That's probably the majority of people who have threads on this site, actually. While I certainly don't think having a snotty held-back kid twice your size wallop you once a week is going to fix your severe autism, I do think bullying plays an important role in the development of social skills in kids.

There are, of course, situations where it goes too far. You'll occasionally see the sad tale of a little one who could not simply step away from their bullies and paid the price. This seems to be more common in the digital age where social media means that everyone is in your face all the time, but I'm sure there are examples from "The Before Times" as well. This is the price you have to pay for our interconnectivity, and I would wager that it's these incidents that have driven the anti-bullying campaigns across the country.

TL;DR - I believe that bullying in moderation is important to weed out bad social behaviors and widespread anti-bullying campaigns and constant coddling are having some unintentional negative effects. Thoughts?

I ain't touching this one

 

[Yinci]

Watched the movie chsritine and it disturbed me to think if I picked up a bully that they could commit property damage. But the way you make it sound it's put more social pressure on Sonic Chu. When people say "encourage bullying" this has a effect on everyone not just in school but in the work place and societal functions. It would really just push people towards a warlord culture.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

It honestly depends on the reason why the person in question is being bullied. If it's something like being a mild sperg or fat, then yeah, a little bullying can probably help encourage them to drop some of those autistic tendencies or lose weight. If it's something like a medical condition the person being bullied can't really do anything about, then there's no real reason for it and you just come off as a massive prick for doing so.

Then again, most bullies tend to be fuck-ups themselves. The people who were known to be prolific bullies where I grew up, the vast majority of them ended up unemployed with drug/alcohol addictions, trapped in failing relationships with several children in their early 20's.

 

[L50LasPak]

A somewhat overlooked point in this thread is that bullying a person because they have a stupid or disgusting belief/lifestyle doesn't really teach them why they shouldn't be living that way in the first place. A person who is bullied for being a degenerate will more than likely not get the message. The message they get isn't "degeneracy is bad because of these objective detriments it has on everyone", its "I shouldn't be a degenerate because people will yet at me for it".

It really does nothing to actually convince the target to change their mind or develop a smarter perspective. Bullying is not productive, its just sport. If you were bullied and did learn the right lessons from it, then its likely you were already a somewhat self-aware person and would have grown out of it anyway.

 

[Kornula]

I will say that bullying can’t be tolerated if retaliation is not allowed. If the one being bullied has to “put up with it”, then you have a broken system. The bully needs to learn that people will draw the line and when you cross it you will get punched in the face. Since schools actually see retaliation as a bigger evil, we cannot have bullies in schools due to the fact that bullies get a free lunch.

I was always tall throughout my life. This meant nearly every single "alpha-male" type guy had to show that he was the bigger man by literally taking down the literal big guy. One day in 3rd grade, I was sitting outside eating my lunch, minding my own buisness when this snotty punk kept pushing me for a fight for no reason. I told him to please just leave me alone. This only made him angrier. He pushed me.. while I was sitting down, mind you, I should mention here I had my arm in a plasetr cast, I stood up, swung my cast up and knocked him out in half a second.

Nobody ever picked a fight with me again.

I agree that if you are in a system that does not allow you to ..or encourage you to literally stand up for yourself, it is broken. Thankfully, I was allowed to fend for myself.

 

[Overcast]

I'm not really sure if I can call poking fun or calling some weirdo out on their weird behavior "bullying". When I think of "bullying" I think of people who prey upon others and go out of their way to hurt them in some way.

Plus, a lot of kids are really blunt about certain things and some just happen to get a rise out of getting a reaction from people. That doesn't necessarily make them a bully.

I don't know. For me, there doesn't seem to be a "one size fits all" kind of solution for this thing. I would just like for kids to settle things on their own with some help from their parents and adults should only intervene when things start to get violent or too personal.

If there's one thing I think we can all agree on is that the current system we have punishes victims instead of the bullies. Kids should be allowed to stand up for themselves. (Barring bringing a knife or gun to school of course.)

 

[polyqueerandrosensual]

It never helped me. I was never taught how to "correct" my natural autistic tendencies that I have zero control over, because it's a biological disease, nor did my parents ever discipline me, so I became a borderline Chris-chan. Only difference is I learned to be so introverted that I hide from everyone and society. But I'll likely never be successful or happy because I don't have the support.