Does anyone else actually like Chris?

[Sweet and Savoury]

Chris is worse then Hitler!

Er, no insult to Hitler btw

 

[Watcher]

Still like Chris?

Yes. This isn't evidence he's evil. It's just further evidence that he's an idiot. I already knew that.

The guy makes fun of a massive tragedy where thousands of people died just because an imaginary troll egged him on to do it.

That's not just being a retard that's having a severe disdain for others, or at the very least lacking any empathy for other human beings.

 

[James Ashbeck]

Chris doesn't even have a personality. I don't mean he's boring, I mean he lacks a personality. What's to like?

This is the opposite of the truth! Chris has an incredibly strong and well defined personality. There's a 1000+ page wiki that is mostly devoted to describing the intricacies of his personality.

Still like Chris?

Yes. This isn't evidence he's evil. It's just further evidence that he's an idiot. I already knew that.

The guy makes fun of a massive tragedy where thousands of people died just because an imaginary troll egged him on to do it.

That's not just being a exceptional individual that's having a severe disdain for others, or at the very least lacking any empathy for other human beings.

I don't think he'd have done it if he had a full understanding of the gravity of the situation. Considering Chris doesn't have a full understanding of the gravity of anything, it's not a difficult assumption to make.

 

[Watcher]

I don't think he'd have done it if he had a full understanding of the gravity of the situation. Considering Chris doesn't have a full understanding of the gravity of anything, it's not a difficult assumption to make.

He's a 30 year old man who went to college.

By your logic the guy's too stupid to be held accountable for his actions. The guy has threatened to kill people before, insulted people based on race and religion. He's not a good person by any standards.

From the Death Threats article on the Cwcki

Ian's murderous tendencies showed up again in Rescuing Kacey From Christian W Chandler. In the video, Chris manages to twist a game made for children of all ages into a tool to spread his hatred, as he breaks into Liquid's home and shoots him. Due to the limitations of the game, this is accomplished with a paint gun, but what happens next makes his true intent all too clear.

In a stunning display of unoriginality, Chris reused exactly the same plotline for Sonichu Special 4. In this comic, Chris depicts Liquid as a knife-wielding villain who kidnapped Kacey. Upon arriving to "rescue" her, Chris produces a handgun (possibly Decepticon leader Megatron in disguise), shoots Liquid in both his shins, and leaves him to bleed to death. When Kacey expressed horror at the fact that he wanted to kill her boyfriend, Chris missed the point about why she was so upset. He told her that he could re-draw the comic, and that such shots were meant to keep Liquid from chasing them, completely avoiding the issue that wanting to shoot someone or permanently cripple them is off-putting. Chris also tried to justify this with the fact that Comic-Liquid was coming at him with a knife, and didn't seem to comprehend the real source of Kacey's shock: she wasn't angry at Comic-Chris for defending himself (albeit in a cowardly way) as she was angry at Real-Chris for constructing a fantasy in which he could justify maiming and permanently crippling her boyfriend, and be completely in the right about it.

 

[Satoru182]

[He's a 30 year old man-CHILD who went to college.

By your logic the guy's too stupid to be held accountable for his actions. The guy has threatened to kill people before, insulted people based on race and religion. He's not a good person by any standards.

Fixed.

I thought it was common knowledge that Chris has never really grow up in mind.

 

[James Ashbeck]

I don't think he'd have done it if he had a full understanding of the gravity of the situation. Considering Chris doesn't have a full understanding of the gravity of anything, it's not a difficult assumption to make.

He's a 30 year old man who went to college.

By your logic the guy's too stupid to be held accountable for his actions. The guy has threatened to kill people before, insulted people based on race and religion. He's not a good person by any standards.

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be held accountable for his actions. I'm saying there should be a bit of balance. He's nowhere near as detestable as he is perceived by many on this forum. I also think the actions of some of the people who trolled him are worse than any action that he has ever done to anyone, that I am aware of.

 

[_blank_]

I wouldn't say that I don't like him, because I reserve those judgements to people I have at least spoken to, person to person. However, the person that he exemplifies through his actions is not a person I would appreciate knowing in the first place.

Even if he means well, and even if he is mostly (directly) harmless, the fact remains that he is the type of person that only thinks of himself first and refuses to act for others if there isn't any reward in it for himself. He wouldn't start a house fire, but at the same time, he wouldn't save a person from burning their hand on a stove top if they weren't going to reward him later for his oh-so heroic efforts.

Outside of his homophobic, racist, sexist, and otherwise closed-minded outlook on everything in life, what irritates me the most is his general refusal to ever be accountable for his own actions. He expects people to cowtow to his creativity of recoloring Sonic characters and creating a hodge-podge of things he's ripped off from cartoons and other bits he's experienced on TV. He believes he is somehow entitled to grandeur and it should happen to some cosmic script he envisioned when he was in grade school and refuses to actually work for anything, but rather, have everything conveniently fall into place for him.

This isn't to say all the trolling was warranted. Bluespike, the website hacks, hell even the Liquid Chris Saga (to a point) were all a bit too much. But the reasons those happened is his outright refusal to roll with the punches. Waaaay back when he first found out about the ED page, instead of just going "Huh, well I have an ED page. That's cute. Time for me to get back to work on Sonichu," he decided to instead hit the metaphorical bear in the face with a stick. I can almost guarantee you 90% of all the trolling that has happened to Chris was Chris' fault in the first place.

Again, maybe Chris is a nice person... but I highly doubt it. His TRUE AND HONEST videos and emails have only shown him to be a man unwilling to grow up, face facts, and refuses to accept responsibility for any of his actions. If he changed that, if he finally said, "Okay, I've been living on excuses the last fives years, I need to get my shit together so I can make something of myself," and actually work towards that, he would find himself a lot more happier, and probably wouldn't have this made-up cloud of trolls working against him over his head. If he just got the fuck over himself, he could change everything. But the sad fact is, he is a masochistic manchild, and he refuses to change due to his selfishness and cowardice. And for that, I don't think I would be friends with Chris.

 

[A-№1]

Do you mean apart from running the same guy over with his car? Twice.

So you're saying that he intended to run Snyder over with his car? I highly doubt it.

Then you're an idiot. And that's the nice way of saying that.

There's no way that he left the house with the intention of running the guy over in his car.

Irrelevant. And a pathetic attempt to sidetrack the argument. What matters is he intended to run over Snyder right before he did.

And he did it on two separate occasions.

He intended to get let back into the game place, and when that didn't work out for him, he intentionally ran over a man with his car.

Chris is not mostly harmless through lack of intent, but through lack of ability.

It's funny that you use this phrasing, because it was precisely Christian's lack of ability that got him into that situation, and not his intent.

You seem to be implying that it's only his lack of ability that stops him from running over more people, which is ridiculous.

Chris would happily murder people if he thought he could get away with it. He has said so himself.

I'm sensing a locked thread and bann happening again in the very near future.

 

[Fishkill]

MY SOUL HURTS


Inb4lock

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Chris doesn't even have a personality. I don't mean he's boring, I mean he lacks a personality. What's to like?

This is the opposite of the truth! Chris has an incredibly strong and well defined personality. There's a 1000+ page wiki that is mostly devoted to describing the intricacies of his personality.

Don't answer me back.

 

[MrTroll]

Still like Chris?

Yes. This isn't evidence he's evil. It's just further evidence that he's an idiot. I already knew that.

I was actually traveling through Pakistan on Sept. 11th 2001. I was in Lahore. While I'm sure most people out there didn't support terrorism, they did have a pretty dim view of America's foreign policy. Most people were pretty sedate as they sat watching CNN, but I remember one group of young kids. They must have been about 13, and they were clearly delighted about what happened.

Did I feel hate for them? No. I knew that if they had any concept of the reality of the situation, the staggering human suffering, the injustice, the tragedy, they wouldn't have smiles on their faces. But they were ignorant. They were in a bubble, created by their environment and their immaturity.

Just like Chris.

"He's not evil, just an idiot" is not a glowing assessment of a person's character, and yet here you are, making a point to describe how likable Chris is. If you had just said "Chris probably lacks the mental abilities or moral culpability to be held fully accountable for his thoughts and actions", I doubt you'd find much disagreement, but this goes above and beyond that.

 

[Watcher]

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be held accountable for his actions. I'm saying there should be a bit of balance. He's nowhere near as detestable as he is perceived by many on this forum. I also think the actions of some of the people who trolled him are worse than any action that he has ever done to anyone, that I am aware of.

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Because making fun of an idiot on the internet is worse than threatening to brutally murder someone

 

[Bgheff]

Chris is the real life George Costanza, except with less charisma.

 

[James Ashbeck]

Then you're an idiot. And that's the nice way of saying that.

Haha jeez. I'd hate to hear the nasty way. I dunno why you can't converse like an adult without resorting to childish name calling.

I'm sensing a locked thread and bann happening again in the very near future.

I haven't broken any rules. I think it would be pretty ridiculous for me to get banned and the thread to get locked just because I've expressed an opinion that differs from consensus here. Hopefully the manajerks here take a more measured and mature attitude to conflicting opinions than you do.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Well he is entertaining, and a lot more funny then A-Log or Wizzards.

In other words, yes, yes he is.

 

[James Ashbeck]

Don't answer me back.

Hahaha.

 

[Watcher]

James no matter how hard you try, you'll never get into Chris's

 

[Dork Of Ages]

James, no offense, I respect your arguments, but don't get douchey. That "we got a badass over here" is a bit douchey.

 

[A-№1]

Haha jeez. I'd hate to hear the nasty way. I dunno why you can't converse like an adult without resorting to childish name calling.

Haha jeez. Way to completely dodge responding to any points.

I'm sensing a locked thread and bann happening again in the very near future.

I haven't broken any rules. I think it would be pretty ridiculous for me to get banned and the thread to get locked just because I've expressed an opinion that differs from consensus here. Hopefully the manajerks here take a more measured and mature attitude to conflicting opinions than you do.

Wait and see…

Oh, and while you are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

Edit because it's not worth adding a new post to a thread that's gonna get locked (and also something about not feeding trolls): I see a few new pages have been added and this James Ashbeck tryhard is still whining about "hurtful words" while not responding to any points he can't.

inB4ban

Edit again because FFS people: DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

 

[James Ashbeck]

Because making fun of an idiot on the internet is worse than threatening to brutally murder someone

Making a ridiculous, comic death threat to a fictional character on YouTube isn't anywhere near as fucked up or morally wrong as pretending to be someone's girlfriend just to hurt their feelings. They are both pathetic, but the latter is so much more pathetic. It's not just "making fun of an idiot on the internet". It's cruel. And Chris has never been cruel.