Does Chris really think we are jealous of him?

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Well lets look at which faction is more consumed with jealousy.

- We have had sex consensually without paying for it. He hasn't, and is jealous of us for it.

In his defense though, OPL does have one thing we don't have...

....and as soon as I figure out what that is, I'll know how to end that sentence.
 
LordCustos3 said:
In his defense though, OPL does have one thing we don't have...

....and as soon as I figure out what that is, I'll know how to end that sentence.

...a persistent lucky streak/the perfect set of circumstances that allows him to slip through the cracks every time he comes close to hitting the wall?
 
JULAY said:
Da Pickle Monsta said:
I started working on this article regarding Chris's Transformer collection a while ago. Now seems as good a time as any to post it.

TL;DR

So, short answer: Chris probably thinks we're jealous and isn't aware that there's not a thing to be jealous about.

Wow dude, I'll give you this, you sure as shit know your Transformer collecting.


Monsta, I agree fully. He may have the material possessions, but there really is nothing of value. Just the mere fact that his stuff has been in that infested household means its all depreciated. And let's not forget his games that were bought from the pawn shop that had weird purple splotches. Like his hygiene, he neglects to take care of his things.
 
The Joker said:
We are one in the same my friend. I hve my fans out there who love my jokes, they are to die for.
I have style, a great laugh, and somuch more than anyone can ask for.
Don't you start that gimmick poster shit. Every new gimmick poster I see means another six weeks tacked on to the time before more Asperchu.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
The Joker said:
We are one in the same my friend. I hve my fans out there who love my jokes, they are to die for.
I have style, a great laugh, and somuch more than anyone can ask for.
Don't you start that gimmick poster shit. Every new gimmick poster I see means another six weeks tacked on to the time before more Asperchu.
Naw man, just a comic fan.
The Joker is just the face I go by.
Don't be mad
like me and my friend batman

BigAltheGreat921 said:
Da Pickle Monsta said:
I started working on this article regarding Chris's Transformer collection a while ago. Now seems as good a time as any to post it.

I recently found myself going back through the photographs of Chris’s room (archived here at the CWCki: http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris%27s_room ). I’ve realized before that Chris is a Transformers fan, but I’d never really taken the time to look at his collection. Until today.

I, myself, am a bit of an action figure connoisseur. I’ve bought and sold many action figures in the past. I enjoy the hobby, as it gives me a chance to see some unique pieces of popular culture and to occasionally even turn a profit. One of my main focus points are Transformers, although I’ve also dealt in G.I. Joe, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Voltron, Macross, and video games. Vintage Transformer collecting is a fast-growing hobby among the late twenties/early thirties male demographic, and boxed figures—or even loose figures with all their accessories—demand hefty prices on eBay and other online second-hand retailers.

That said, I’ve looked at Chris’s Transformer collection this morning and identified as many figures as I can, as well as identifying original retail price points.

Animated Bumblebee—released 2008. Original retail price: $10.

Animated Jetstorm and Jetfire—released 2008. Original retail price: $27.

Animated “Legends” Bumblebee—a smaller-scale release than the former. Original retail price: $6.

Animated Prowl—released 2008. Original retail price: $10.

Animated Soundwave—released 2008. Original retail price: $10.

Anniversary Optimus Prime—released in 2004. Original retail price: $75. This is Chris’s much-maligned Optimus Prime figure, which he has held in various videos to reassure himself that he’s not gay. Of interesting note is that several different versions of this figure were produced. The original Japanese version had longer smokestacks on the shoulders which were snipped for the American release due to safety regulations. Later American re-releases of this figure in 2007 would be comprised of all plastic, with no die cast pieces, and a grey gun to match the cartoon. This later production pieces Chris owns an original 2004 American release, as noted by the shortened smoke stacks and black rifle. Both the original version of this figure and its later plastic re-release would see heavy clearance price slashing.

Armada Dead End—released in 2002. Original retail price: $10. This figure was a noted “shelf-warmer,” often being seen at clearance prices towards the end of the Transformers: Armada toy run.

Armada Megatron—released 2002, original retail price: $27.

Armada Optimus Prime—released 2002, original retail price: $49. Of note is this figure can combine with two others (Armada Jetfire and Armada and Armada Overload, which both retailed for approx. $27.) Chris, of course, has all three parts to this figure.

Armada Unicron—released in 2003, with re-releases in 2005 and 2010. Original retail price: $50.

Beast Wars Transmetal Optimus Primal—released in 1998 at an original retail price of roughly $17.

Cybertron Bushgaurd—released 2005, original retail price: $7.

Cybertron Clocker—released 2005, original retail price: $7.

Cybetron “Cybertron Defense” Hot Spot—released late 2005, original retail price: $10.

Cybertron Evac—released late 2005, original retail price: $27.

Cybertron Longrack—released 2006, original retail price: $10.

Cybertron Megatron—released 2005, original retail price: $49.

Cybertron Optimus Prime—released 2005, original retail price: $49.

Cybertron Overdrive—released 2005, original retail price: $10. Of interesting note, this Transformer has a china.

Cybertron Primus—released 2006, original retail price: $49.

Cybertron Red Alert—released 2005, original retail price: $10.

Cybertron Scourge—released 2005, original retail price: $27.

Cybertron Soundwave—released 2005, original retail price: $27.

Cybertron Snarl—released 2005, original retail price: $10.

Cybertron Thunderclash—released 2005, original retail price: $10. This is another Transformer with china.

Cybertron Thundecracker—released 2005, original retail price: $10.

Cybertron Unicron—released 2006, original retail price: $10.

Cybertron Vector Prime—released 2005, original retail price: $27.

Cybertron Wing Saber—released 2005, original retail price: $27.

Generation One Action Master Bumblebee—released in 1990. Original retail price: about $7. Of interesting note, Chris seems to be missing the heli-pack/gun for this figure, denoting that he either lost it as a child (probable) or bought this figure from a second-hand source.

Generation Two Bumblebee—released in 1993, this is a re-release of the original 1984 Bumblebee figure, except in a gold paint scheme. Original retail price: approx. $5.

Generation Two Optimus Prime—released in 1993, this figure is essentially a re-issue of the original Optimus Prime toy from 1984 except that it comes with a black trailer instead of a grey one and some additional missile launchers. Original retail price: $30. Chris probably received this as a gift as a child.

Movie Bumblebee—released in 2007. This appears to be the “Classic Camaro” toy, rather than the “Camaro Concept” release. Original retail price: $10.
Movie “Camaro Concept” release—released in 2007, and made to portray Bumblebee after he upgrades his body.

Movie Optimus Prime—released in 2007 to coincide with the release of the first Transformers live action movie. This appears to be the “Leader class” Prime, original retail price: $49.

My First Transformers “Car”—this was a set of three figures released under the “Playskool” label in 1985 and were transformers marketed for younger children. Chris probably has had this since childhood.

Revenge of the Fallen Mudflap and Skids—released in 2009 to coincide with the release of the “Revenge of the Fallen” film. This is the ice cream truck release.

Revenge of the Fallen Soundwave—released in 2009 to coincide with the release of the second live action Transformers film. Original retail price: $10.
Transformers “Classics” Bumblebee—released 2006, original retail price: $10.

Transformers “Classics” Rodimus—released 2006, original retail price: $10.

Transformers “Classics” Starscream—released 2006, original retail price: $10.

Transformers Collection Megatron—released in Asia in 2003, this is the infamous “Megatron Pistol.” Chris has kept the box atop his entertainment center, which is how I was able to identify the figure. Of interesting note, it is now illegal to sell this figure inside the US unless it has been fitted with an orange barrel plug. Chris probably bought this from an online toy dealer soon after its release, likely paying between $120-180 before shipping.
Universe Cosmos—released 2009, original retail price: $7.

Universe Soundwave—released in 2008, this is a re-issue of the original Soundwave figure from 1984. It was available at Toys R’ Us and came packaged with two cassette figures: Laserbeak and Ravage. This figure’s chest was deepened from the original’s so that it could hold two cassettes at once instead of only one. This, of course, means that the demand and prices for the original and have only increased.

Universe “War for Cybertron” Bumblebee—released 2010 to coincide with the release of the “War for Cybertron” video game. original retail price: $10.

Universe “War for Cybertron” Optimus Prime—released 2010, original retail price: $10.

Keep in mind that this is only an assessment, and there were many more figures that I couldn’t identify due to the resolution of the photos/overcrowding of Chris’s shelves. Chris has undoubtedly grown his toy collection since these photos were taken, as well.

Chris primary mistake as a toy collector is conflating the value of his collection and, as a result, falling into a number of first-time collector pitfalls. Many first-time collectors see the resale value of toys that they owned as a child and mistakenly assume that ifthey still had that toy, they would be able to get that much money for it. The truth is often much, much different, as I will illustrate below.

The first and foremost of Chris’s collecting troubles is that he has removed his toys from their packaging. Although this is really only a problem if you intend to resell your toys instead of using them for personal enjoyment, Chris has tried to resell his toys on several occasions (as noted in Chris’s emails to Jackie regarding his Power Ranger figures.)

Secondly, Chris has only purchased figures that are immediately available at retail, rather than finding toys that have collectable value. This has hurt the value of Chris’s collection in a number of ways. Instead of using his tugboat to purchase an imported reissue of Soundwave or an original, Chris went to Toys R’Us and purchased the immediately available reissue Soundwave in the box. Unfortunately for Chris, Hasbro (the company that produces Transformers in the US) has a nasty tendency to over-produce stock. This means that Chris’s Soundwave is currently reselling for $65-$75 mint in box, whereas the lower-run San Diego Comic Con reissue Soundwave is reselling for closer to $200, or the Japanese 2003 Soundwave reissue selling for $150 (source: Amazon.com, thinkgeek.com).

Another example of this is Chris’s Unicron figure. Originally released in 2003, Hasbro marketed Unicron to collectors as “the toy you waited seventeen years for.” However, they underestimated the number of adult collectors and over-estimated their product’s viability. The next year, Hasbro resorted to painting unsold Unicron figures black and reselling them for their “Energon” line, and eventually abandoned even that pretense and just dumped the original orange ones in “Energon” packaging. Orange Unicrons could be found at retail well into the year 2006 and even 2007, often carrying huge clearance slash tags. I, myself, find them all over the place at second hand and thrift shops. Perhaps ironically, the black Unicrons now demand a much higher after-market value (source: shmax.com.)

Third, Chris is not taking very good care of the toys he already has in his collection. His figures have no protection from dust or other debris from the Chandler house. Megatron has had his trigger pulled repeatedly to shoot that no-good Adam Stackhouse. Optimus has been thrown into a backpack and carted around Charlottseville. Unicron’s been secured to the wall through some unknown means.

Fourth, Chris has limited his collection by limiting himself to what he’s exposed. Without exception, Chris’s figures are either featured in Transformers cartoons or the live-action movies. However, the Transformers market has grown exponentially since the mid-eighties, when the original cartoon went off the air, and now includes comic books, novels, and radio shows. These secondary forms of medium have grown many secondary characters into collector favorites (some examples being Razorbeast, Nightbeat, and Bludgeon from the Beast Wars and Generation One lines.) As a result, the after-market prices for the original toys or even modern toys that are homages to the originals have sky-rocketed in value. Chris has missed this due to his diet of Cartoon Network and Michael Bay.

Chris’s final mistake is the misconception that quantity is greater than quality. The number of Transformers that fill Chris’s shelves that are, essentially, generic. Although markets exist for both the adult collector and for children, Chris seems to gravitate towards the child-geared demographic (the only exceptions being the reissue Soundwave, the Anniversary Optimus Prime, and the Megatron pistol.) The result is that most of his figures have very poor resale value, especially since they are unpackaged, and are scarcely worth the listing fees on eBay. Chris could rectify this easily enough if he were to redirect the priorities of his tugboat, but spending $100 on an eBay auction for a single figure is nowhere near as fulfilling for Chris as buying a new vidya and two off-the-shelf Transformers.

Chris has undoubtedly justified his buying of Transformers and other toys as “it’s not frivolous, it’s an investment.” Due to the pitfalls I’ve outlined, though, Chris’s toy buying habits are anything but. Most tellingly, however, is Chris’s negative feedback rating on eBay: “said package was unopened not true slow ship” for a Transformers Movie 2008 Concept Camaro. Chris probably used a term such as “MOSC” (Mint on Sealed Card) in his eBay title without really understanding what the acronym meant, having just thrown it in there as assumed business jargon. The bottom line is that Chris collects simply due to hoarding behaviors. While he has sold Transformers on eBay in the past, these were mostly bottom shelf dreck that was sold at retail cost, and his actual collection is worth far less than what he paid for it.


So, short answer: Chris probably thinks we're jealous and isn't aware that there's not a thing to be jealous about.
Good analysis. It really shows us a lot about Chris' materialistic tendencies.
God he hoards onto things. I collect Detective comics circa golden age through silver age and I know other collectors that whine about how their collections are "investments" and need to be kept. Chris just thinks mint condition mean it looks nice and he should gets lots of money to spend on vidya for it.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
The Joker said:
We are one in the same my friend. I hve my fans out there who love my jokes, they are to die for.
I have style, a great laugh, and somuch more than anyone can ask for.
Don't you start that gimmick poster shit. Every new gimmick poster I see means another six weeks tacked on to the time before more Asperchu.

Thank GodBear someone agrees. These joke accounts are fucking stupid and unfunny.
 
Knowing Chris, he probably thinks he can sell his toys for the same price he bought them just because that's the price he bought them at.
 
bradsternum said:
Alec Benson Leary said:
Don't you start that gimmick poster shit. Every new gimmick poster I see means another six weeks tacked on to the time before more Asperchu.

Thank GodBear someone agrees. These joke accounts are fucking stupid and unfunny.

Except the Hulkster. But then, he's not a gimmick poster because he's the actual Hulk Hogan (IP confirmed).
 
raymond said:
Knowing Chris, he probably thinks he can sell his toys for the same price he bought them just because that's the price he bought them at.

I think you're right. In one of his e-mails to Jackie, he couldn't really believe that the asking costs of opened Megazord toys was far, far less than what he had paid.
 
Da Pickle Monsta said:
raymond said:
Knowing Chris, he probably thinks he can sell his toys for the same price he bought them just because that's the price he bought them at.

I think you're right. In one of his e-mails to Jackie, he couldn't really believe that the asking costs of opened Megazord toys was far, far less than what he had paid.
I remember that. When it comes to figures as generic as his, Chris might just be better off keeping if he really expects full price.
Ebay can be tough and he would be a difficult seller. Best I ever did was make three hundred off a few Golden Age Aquaman issues I got for about ten dollars at a book store. Anything from the Chandler household should be melted down.
 
My luck on eBay has admittedly been pretty crappy recently. I've had lots of non-paying bidders, and somebody who stiffed me on a vintage TMNT turtle van because they' didn't want to pay the $10 shipping.

With his tons of movie merchandise or figures from 2000 onward, its going to be a while before Chris can see some profit on his loose figures--if ever. Chris seems to be a huge fan of the $7-12 price point, and a good chunk of those figures won't appreciate in value.

The best Chris could do is sell his collection bulk, and he'd still be out a lot of money.
 
Well, maybe one day - after CWC passes away and they make books and movies about his life - the toys will be worth a small fortune amongst Christorians. It's CWC memorabilia after all.
 
Yawning Squirtle said:
Well, maybe one day - after CWC passes away and they make books and movies about his life - the toys will be worth a small fortune amongst Christorians. It's CWC memorabilia after all.
Once his house is a museum and warning to people who want e-fame. ]:(P
 
Yawning Squirtle said:
Well, maybe one day - after CWC passes away and they make books and movies about his life - the toys will be worth a small fortune amongst Christorians. It's CWC memorabilia after all.

Kind of like the original Winnie-the-Pooh stuffed toys, except greasier.
 
To the question everybody seems to be answering, that is, are we jealous of him? I have to answer of course not. Not in the slightest.

To the actual question of the thread, does he think we're jealous of him? The answer is yes, yes he does.

"But that's absurd! Irrational!" you exclaim. Well, welcome to Christory.

He believed it when his mother said people only pick on him because they're jealous, and he believes it to this day, unlike most people who figure it out sometime before they're out of middle school. After all, his parents wouldn't lie to him or mislead him, and he has so very much to be jealous of! His superb artistic skills, his unparalleled writing ability, his massive video game collections, his superhuman strength and chiseled, manly features veiled beneath his long, luxurious locks and beautiful tomgirlish makeup, his ability to earn a living without lifting a finger; why wouldn't we be seething with envy? Just as he seethes when he sees a JERK with the one thing he desperately wants and has never been able to get, no matter how much he whines and begs: a girlfriend.

Inability to understand other people feel differently than he does plus total credulity equals "dem trolls is just jealous."
 
Da Pickle Monsta said:
My luck on eBay has admittedly been pretty crappy recently. I've had lots of non-paying bidders, and somebody who stiffed me on a vintage TMNT turtle van because they' didn't want to pay the $10 shipping.

With his tons of movie merchandise or figures from 2000 onward, its going to be a while before Chris can see some profit on his loose figures--if ever. Chris seems to be a huge fan of the $7-12 price point, and a good chunk of those figures won't appreciate in value.

The best Chris could do is sell his collection bulk, and he'd still be out a lot of money.
Bidders who don't pay deserve a special sort of punishment....
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hellbound said:
He believed it when his mother said people only pick on him because they're jealous, and he believes it to this day, unlike most people who figure it out sometime before they're out of middle school. After all, his parents wouldn't lie to him or mislead him, and he has so very much to be jealous of! His superb artistic skills, his unparalleled writing ability, his massive video game collections, his superhuman strength and chiseled, manly features veiled beneath his long, luxurious locks and beautiful tomgirlish makeup, his ability to earn a living without lifting a finger; why wouldn't we be seething with envy?

Yeah, I remember him also bragging about how he got "famous without even leaving the house" or something like that. Like his infamy is something to envy.
 
Da Pickle Monsta said:
raymond said:
Knowing Chris, he probably thinks he can sell his toys for the same price he bought them just because that's the price he bought them at.

I think you're right. In one of his e-mails to Jackie, he couldn't really believe that the asking costs of opened Megazord toys was far, far less than what he had paid.

Don't forget that Chris tried to sell a 15 year old tube TV for $150.
 
BALLZ-BROKEN said:
Da Pickle Monsta said:
raymond said:
Knowing Chris, he probably thinks he can sell his toys for the same price he bought them just because that's the price he bought them at.

I think you're right. In one of his e-mails to Jackie, he couldn't really believe that the asking costs of opened Megazord toys was far, far less than what he had paid.

Don't forget that Chris tried to sell a 15 year old tube TV for $150.
Sad that as soon as Bob dropped Chris sold his TV...
Chris is resistant to change. He thinks that once he bought it it should either be worth more or the same price.
 
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