Does "White privilege" exist? - If so, how and why?

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

good point. Sorry that sounded rude as fuck the way i put it. I more meant it wasnt a singlehanded victory over all white people like some of the BLM guys seem to see it as, without any help they likely wouldnt have gotten their freedom without leaving the country so it would have been a worse outcome if literally all white people were cool with slavery

Had they done that, USA would be a hellhole like Haiti. Blacks are incapable of managing even a city, let alone any country

Then you said...



A majority of Jewish people ARE White. I didn't know being a certain religion offered so many privileges.

I would not know the difference between a White or a Jewish person unless they said so.

Really? I can pick them out at a glance, 9 times out of 10. I have a similar success rate between Ethiopians and Somalis, and can tell an Egyptian from a Leb with unerring accuracy.Seems I missed my professional calling. By a few decades.

 

[ToddleDoddle]

I'd say white privilege in majority white countries exists to an extent. Just like matching the majority race in any country probably gives you a bit of an advantage, with that said it's impact isn't a big as they want you to believe. Whether you are black or white, if you are born to a poor family, odds are you will end up being poor. Inverse if you are black or white and are born into a successful and wealthy family odds are you will be the same. Class privilege is the biggest difference maker. I think not that long ago people were paying attention to that, but conveniently everybody suddenly got distracted by splitting everyone on racial/gender lines.

 

[AnnLurker]

White privilege isn't real.

If it was, they wouldn't have killed each other to free black people or end slavery in general.
My Family killed and died to free people they never knew over the idea we should all be equal. I have my great great uncle Linus' diary.
He literally said just that in it: "I march to save a people from bondage".

Go fuck yourself with this white privilege shit. When your people die for mine, do my descendants get to call yours privileged?

 

[The Last Stand]

White privilege isn't real.

If it was, they wouldn't have killed each other to free black people or end slavery in general.
My Family killed and died to free people they never knew over the idea we should all be equal. I have my great great uncle Linus' diary.
He literally said just that in it: "I march to save a people from bondage".

Go fuck yourself with this white privilege shit. When your people die for mine, do my descendants get to call yours privileged?

Conservative Blacks are more about community than race.

 

[Surf and TERF]

Well no shit. My ex-gf once told me that being white was a big reason as to why her parents accepted me so much. Not that this was my first clue about the existence of privilege. My brother is colored (same parents but mixed-race family) and he definitely gets treated differently for it.

I doubt my sentiment will get very far here but honestly, you've got to have your head pretty far up your ass to be asking this question.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Privilege is an illusion. The only privilege is wealth privilege. You have money or you don't have money. That is where privilege begins and ends. A wealthy black man will always hold an iron fist over poor white men. A wealthy black man will employ idpol tactics against the poor to divide them to increase his power.

There is no such thing as racial privilege. It is all class warfare, all the time. The only color that matters in this world is green. If you're a rich black man, times changed. The wealthy will welcome you with open arms to stomp on the plebs.

This is a repeat of the early 20th century where the wealthy divided the Irish, Italians and Polish. Italians and Irish still hate each other and its been 100 years. Both are poor lower classes generally among whites. History indicates idpol and privilege are tools of the rich to oppress the poor. Poor blacks and poor whites have more in common, but you'd never know that because the rich is constantly pouring money in to divide them both and set them against each other. Nearly all crime is intraracial, not interracial. Goes for whites as well as blacks, but you'd never know this as the rich keep deluding us we're on the verge of a race war.

The only way to avoid this is becoming wealthy yourself. But good luck with that, as the rich gatekeep the ever living fuck out of exclusivity to their little club. There is no such thing as race. The only reality is wealth.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

That depends on where you live. Some companies will prefer YOU for hire over every single non-white applicant. In some communities you will be given preferential treatment over non-whites still even to this day.

In other cases - you will be disadvantaged by your whiteness or even a victim of reverse racism. Some colleges and jobs are huge into ''diversity hires'' and ''diversity admissions'' and you will be the one tossed to the side. This is why the term white privilege is so confusing and controversial because of this huge contrast I mentioned above.

Another privilege, white's typically won't be harassed or frisked by police unless you look like a vagrant and behave erratically (druggie or mentally ill behavior). There is very rarely a ''stop and frisk'' program for regularly dressed white men and women. Probably about 80% of those frisked are non-white's. Obviously this is partly to do with black crime rate being higher (honest here) but for someone who's black and not involved in crime you have to imagine how much it would suck to be frisked or followed by police.

 

[celebrityskin]

I don't think so. Insanely rich, well connected people are gonna help each other out regardless of race.

 

[Michael Janke]

do blacks in nigeria have black privilege?
do chinese in china have asian privilege?
if a white man goes to a place where he's a minority does his privilege go away, or are whites just eternally privileged.
if its the latter, man whites must be blessed by god or something.

 

[CiaphasCain]

Money and connections are the only thing that can make you privileged and even then I'm not one to automatically hate people because they're in a better position.

If white privilege does exist I'm still waiting for it to start...

 

[Eydallur]

White privilege, as originally defined, does exist and was earned.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Most of supposed "white privilege" is actually just wealth privilege.

There was a guy in my HS class that got special treatment because of who his family was, and they were wealthy. He was black.

 

[Tranimal Farm]

Replace the word "White" with "Majority" and you've done like 60% of the work of reforming the idea into something that at least somewhat correlates to reality

 

[Cool Dog]

I was just in the "what is bad faith argument" thread and you know whats a good example of that? this shit: every time I hear somebody talking about white privilege its done in bad faith, most of the time to put some random honky in its place but more often than not to get some free shit/money, ironically enough from that or other whites around, but the one talking about privilege doesnt actually believes in it and its only using it as a means to an end: taking advantage of the situation

Hatred against one race to another shouldn't be tolerated, period. The anti-White rhetoric steams me as much as the negative Black stereotypes. Henceforth, using the "Boo hoo, I'm X, I SHOULD be able to open express my distaste of Y because Z..." doesn't help much either.

Too bad the way things are going you wont have a choice. This identity bullshit its being promoted to take peoples' views away from the insane growing class divide, but I feel pandora's box is open and the ones at the top know they started something they cant stop. And when this racism spirals down if you're in a certain group you wont be able to stand apart because if your group doesnt kills you for being a "race traitor" then the other group will kill you for being a fucking honkey/nigger/spic/gook/kike/whatever, creating a never ending cycle of race warfare because they reduced politics to a zero-sum race problem

But hey at least we didnt have to increase taxes on the ultra-wealthy...

The best way to reduce racism and prejudice is to create a healthy society where people are treated with dignity as equals and have their rights upheld equally under the law

Too expensive, bad for business

Thats why every major corporation, media network, tech giant and advertiser its promoting this low-key racist thinking

 

[Fat Tits of Redemption]

Does anyone else feel like we've all kinda openly known for a while that the wealthy elite keep us all too divided to fight back at them by convincing poor white people and poor black/brown people that the other is the cause of their poverty, but we still keep scratching at and constantly reopening this country's tender racial wounds instead of just acknowledging that massive multinational conglomerates owning everything including our political system sucks ass?

 

[TheRatcatcher]

No it does not in any shape or form. Not trying to be le based token minority, but from my experience, it's an illusion cast by major media outlets and academic institutions to cause a divide between different classes of people to be set about with dumb shit. I've mainly encountered upper-middle class, middle class, and wealthy people along with intellectuals who rely on tunnel visions to try and say that white people are struck with this almost mystical supernatural predilection towards hating anyone who has a few shades darker than them with various bullshit ass studies imo. At the end of the day, there will always be people who are several steps above the rest thanks to just being born in that right wealthy family who sees everyone else as lesser than them.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

There is a stubborn delusion among blacks especially that most white's live high on the hog. They believe there is a secret 'in'' for whites in the job market and the criminal justice system does not hold whites to full accountability. They are then emboldened by self hating whites who teach on college campuses and tell them it's simply all ''systemic racism'' holding them back and white people are privileged beyond belief.

 

[Secret Messages]

I am more likely to trust a random white guy than a random black guy, but only when that’s literally the only thing I can determine about them. Mannerisms, cleanliness, trustworthiness, and intelligence are all more important to my perception of someone than their race, and all of those factors can be sussed out pretty quickly. Given enough time knowing them, I will adjust my understanding of them from the stereotype I assigned them as my knowledge grows. I guess my answer is white privilege exists to the extent that all other character traits begin.

 

[Stan]

If I could offer a serious response: Have you ever read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell?

Humans have a cognitive processes which protect us like a reflex from touching a hot stove. They're called 'heuristics'. Heuristics are useful, because they let us make quick decisions in life-or-death situations. Humans have an instinctual "snake" heuristic. When you see something in your peripheral vision that looks like a snake in the grass, you focus on it and make a split-second determination: was that a snake in the grass, or is it non-threatening?

It's like a cognitive shortcut. You can also call this profiling, stereotyping, pattern recognition, generalizing from experience; and it is all of these things. We use heuristics to defend ourselves from threats, so whether you're woke or you relish posting the n-word, your mind has developed a heuristic about black people; and black men in particular. More to the point, police and other authority figures have the same heuristic. This is how black men get shot by police when they fumble for their drivers' liscenses (this is an important example in "blink").

White privilege maintains an equal and opposite effect to the power of racial discrimination; and we use racial discrimination a lot no matter what your politics are. We think of those having similar white color as in the tribe, we value pale skin because it means you have a civilized white-collar job. White privilege overlaps with class privelege; white flight to the suburbs would be an example of this. The definition of white has been a moving target for the past century; Italians, Irish, and Germans weren't 'white' according to the WASP americans who were here first. Those other nations were accepted later, once they had assimilated to American culture.

Dirt-poor hillbillies do not enjoy much white privilege, but some of them cling to racial bigotry to reinforce their own self-worth, which is sad.

 

[Wesley Willis]

Privilege is a matter of degrees, not all of which are dependent upon race.