Does "White privilege" exist? - If so, how and why?

Many incidences of white privilege are exaggerated... however, I think a true example of 'white privilege' is the situation with the Ukrainian refugee's. Let's be honest here for a moment, countries did not mind taking them in and families signed up in droves here in Canada to host them in their homes. Compare that with the Syrians? few people would take them. And as far as hosting the Haitians goes... let's not even go there.
 
Of course "white privilege" exists. The concept of "white privilege" is based on the claim that we have built a society that intrinsically favors our race, and this claim is 100% true. The society we have built materially rewards you for rational planning, delayed gratification, self-restraint, literacy, and sexual continence. White people are better at all these things than every other race except blacks, but we're better than Asians at risk-taking, individual competition, and initiative, and our society rewards those things as well.

If we lived in a society that was set up to reward you for being better at chucking a spear at a gazelle, outrunning other tribal warriors in the New Moon Festival foot races, and settling scores by mortal combat, we'd be at a severe disadvantage compared to blacks.
 
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Many incidences of white privilege are exaggerated... however, I think a true example of 'white privilege' is the situation with the Ukrainian refugee's. Let's be honest here for a moment, countries did not mind taking them in and families signed up in droves here in Canada to host them in their homes. Compare that with the Syrians? few people would take them. And as far as hosting the Haitians goes... let's not even go there.
To be fair, have you SEEN Haiti?
 
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Many incidences of white privilege are exaggerated... however, I think a true example of 'white privilege' is the situation with the Ukrainian refugee's. Let's be honest here for a moment, countries did not mind taking them in and families signed up in droves here in Canada to host them in their homes. Compare that with the Syrians? few people would take them. And as far as hosting the Haitians goes... let's not even go there.
How did the nation of haiti get founded?

A slave revolt where after the revolt succeeded they killed all the white people, including those who had fought on the slave revolt side.

People have a prefference for their family, then extended to their extended family, then extended to their nation, then extended to their continent and so on. Talk candidly with any immigrant and you discover they have the same prefference. The smarter Syrians may be too polite to say so, but if you get to know them, yes they think western womern are whores. Pretty much all of western women are whores who don't know their place. Their view is compatible with their region of the world and the reason it's becoming more common in the west is because of integration of large amounts of people from this area of the world.

Of course there are some local rivalries, but even the french and english have much more compatible world views and values than with, and I apologize for using this slur, canadians.
 
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How did the nation of haiti get founded?

A slave revolt where after the revolt succeeded they killed all the white people, including those who had fought on the slave revolt side.

People have a prefference for their family, then extended to their extended family, then extended to their nation, then extended to their continent and so on. Talk candidly with any immigrant and you discover they have the same prefference. The smarter Syrians may be too polite to say so, but if you get to know them, yes they think western womern are whores. Pretty much all of western women are whores who don't know their place. Their view is compatible with their region of the world and the reason it's becoming more common in the west is because of integration of large amounts of people from this area of the world.

Of course there are some local rivalries, but even the french and english have much more compatible world views and values than with, and I apologize for using this slur, canadians.

We have a natural preference to help people who look more like us. It's true. Racism is fairly innate but other elements of it can be potentially reprehensible (bringing violence to a person of another race etc.). Most of us are aware that we are naturally inclined to be comfortable around or to help our own people.

But those Ukrainians won the the Refugee lottery. Never have I seen such a concerted community effort to help refugees. There's a Ukrainian church in my town and they asked for public donations to send to Ukraine and for newly arrived refugee's and the parking lot of the church was literally loaded up to the brim with Diaper boxes, coats, food and everything you could imagine. I went there to drop off a small cash donation and I was taken a back.

For the Syrian refugee's it was literally a kick in the butt and nothing else (in terms of community effort).
 
We have a natural preference to help people who look more like us. It's true. Racism is fairly innate but other elements of it can be potentially reprehensible (bringing violence to a person of another race etc.). Most of us are aware that we are naturally inclined to be comfortable around or to help our own people.

But those Ukrainians won the the Refugee lottery. Never have I seen such a concerted community effort to help refugees. There's a Ukrainian church in my town and they asked for public donations to send to Ukraine and for newly arrived refugee's and the parking lot of the church was literally loaded up to the brim with Diaper boxes, coats, food and everything you could imagine. I went there to drop off a small cash donation and I was taken a back.

For the Syrian refugee's it was literally a kick in the butt and nothing else (in terms of community effort).


Why didn't Syrians win the refugee lottery to countries like saudi arabia, qatar, israel, armenia? You know countries in their region?

Why do Syrians have more privilege in Canada than in these countries?
 
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People don't understand in America that class matters much more than race, at least when it comes to opportunity. Now, this country was founded primarily by white people, and because of that the generational wealth that keeps people upper and middle class is mainly concentrated IN white people. I will meet leftists a quarter of the way in that I do agree that in the past, white people actively conspired to keep other races from breaking into the middle and upper class, and Asians essentially broke into it by sheer force of will. This does NOT mean that I agree with affirmative action or any of that other garbage, especially the demand that whites should always be filled with self hate. What the fuck did I personally do to people a different color than me, so far as I know none of my ancestors participated in anything racist in the past, all we did was farm. Affirmative action actively disincentivizes innovation, working hard, and earning promotions in general, both in the people it's trying to help and in the people it actively hurts; it is the most pants on head retarded way to help anyone get ahead economically that I have ever seen.

TLDR: American leftists are too brain poisoned to understand that race is an ancillary at best cause to their and the people they want to help's troubles, and that it's mainly about economics and the knock on effects of decisions made 100 years ago. Blacks in America would be helped more by the reversal of stupid zoning laws that prevent affordable housing in big cities and an active cultural effort to break out of the perpetual economic downward spiral they're in.
 
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yes and no. yes in the sense that white people do have more of a privileged life than others. but at the same time its not all white people its mainly the rich ones that get to enjoy said privileges the poor are all the same just from different walks of life. so yeah i would say white privilege exists but not in the way people on twitter or the left in general tend to say it does. being white does not mean your life becomes easier it just means you have at most a small head start but even with that head start unless you live in a decent area or know how to manage your money or just work hard enough you can end up in the same slums as any other race.
 
It depends where you live. Some areas are racist, some aren't. It's not really a yes or no kind of thing.
 
Many incidences of white privilege are exaggerated... however, I think a true example of 'white privilege' is the situation with the Ukrainian refugee's. Let's be honest here for a moment, countries did not mind taking them in and families signed up in droves here in Canada to host them in their homes. Compare that with the Syrians? few people would take them. And as far as hosting the Haitians goes... let's not even go there.
I disagree with that situation being rooted in any sort of "White privilege". That's more like a "your people aren't known to behave like savages" privilege.

We have ample evidence and experience on the way Muslims from the Middle East behave as refugees. And the exact same thing applies to black refugees from Haiti
Haitians might even be a little worse, tbh.

Muslim and black refugees are extremely entitled, rude, have questionable hygienic practices, and their behavior often crosses into criminal. They're the type of refugees who act like they're on a vacation rather than having the solemn attitude you would expect from individuals fleeing a war zone or natural disaster.

And I tend to believe that Ukranians actually look forward to a time when stability returns to their country and they can go home, whereas the aforementioned groups will make their refugee status permanent if at all possible, legal or no.

Back to the whole "White privilege" non-issue: I bet people wouldn't mind taking in Japanese refugees since they come across as quiet, tidy, and polite. On the other hand, Chinese refugees would have a much harder time, since everyone familiar with the way Chinese tourists behave definitely wouldn't want them around for an extended period of time.

And they're both from the far East, the same "racial" group, so to speak.

It goes back to what I said originally. It's all about your culture or group's reputation. Most White cultures have a much better reputation than blacks or Middle Easterners. And the same positive reputation exists for numerous other non-White cultures.

People don't understand in America that class matters much more than race, at least when it comes to opportunity.
Very much true. Money trumps all, and it has in this country for longer than any of us have been alive.
I will meet leftists a quarter of the way in that I do agree that in the past, white people actively conspired to keep other races from breaking into the middle and upper class
The people in America who built their families and communities up originally created most of their wealth by working very hard while spending very little on frivolous affairs. They stayed away from gambling and hard drinking, and they saved and put away every penny they had.

It was that whole Protestant work ethic they followed generation after generation.

And they did make it harder on the people who came after them from breaking into the upper class, but remember, they did this to other White immigrants. The ones who came first had it, they figured they worked hard for it and earned it, and they damn well didn't wanna share it with anyone.

So yes, I agree that they did what you said, but to the later immigrants: mostly White immigrants. Every group that came after them had to tough it out and fight for their piece of the country.

My point is that it wasn't racial. It was tribal, and it was ethnic. The original Protestant American attitude was, "We built this place up from nothing and we wanna keep it all to ourselves: our families, our local community, and our people from whatever corner of Europe we came from. These new immigrants, the Irish/Italian/German/French/Greek etc. are gonna have to earn it like we did if they want a piece of the action. We're not just gonna give it to them."

Asians essentially broke into it by sheer force of will.
They had to break into it the same way that every group before them did. The only difference was that they came later and the later you came, the more groups you were competing with. But they managed to do it, and that says something about them and this country: their work ethic and the egalitarian nature of America, where any group can make it if they put in the work.
 
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It depends on where and which family you are born into. What kind of neighborhood you grew up in and the kind of people in your life more than anything to do with your race.
 
As long as we only talk about privilege and disadvantage, we will never get anywhere. Let's face it: people are not equal. Animals are not equal. A predator eats hundreds of inferior animals in their lifetime, he has to do this or he will die. Some humans are also better than others.

However people often reduce it to a purely materialistic sentiment: white people are better because we have electricity/medicine/etc while africans do not. These things do not matter. I would even argue many of these are more harmful than useful but that is for another thread. It is not *necessarily* about outward beauty either.

A difference between white and black people I never see mentioned is how black people very very rarely climb mountains. Mountain hiking is a spiritual quest, you are trying to get in touch with God (I use capital G but the same sentiment applies to a lot of religions and traditions), you are trying to conquer yourself. There is some mystical quality about the peaks; this longing is absent from black people.

White people are more in touch with the divine. African shamanistic practices are disgusting compared to paganism practiced anywhere else, and that's not even comparing it to christianity/islam. The romans did not think of themselves as great warriors, but as very pious people. The same goes for the greeks. The assyrian King (they had fairer complexion than modern sirians, comparable to modern Spaniards) was always viewed as a representative of Ashur on earth tasked with restoring the universal balance. In African religions there is always an emphasis of a god fusing with a human being to create a third being and his words are then taken for divine, this is, again, carnal.

Modern healthcare, infrastructure and society have taken on a carcinogenic quality (gotta grow to increase gdp so we can grow more etc) but in the past, having good healthcare was viewed as a blessing of the gods, same with having good roads you get the point. Since the predecessors of modern white people (probably the yamnaya culture or some other white admixture they picked up along the way like the funnelbeakers) were noted for their piety, God has rewarded them with gifts of *exclusivity*. If we stop being pious (now) we will lost it all.

Black people just ask for gibs, they will get none. If black people were to become devout, they would become the rulers, but they won't do that.
 
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