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I am exploiting 100% of my power and reach as admin of the CWCki Forums to find something I need. I tried this years ago but I am trying again with even worse odds.

Over 10 years ago, before the forum existed, there was a streamer named KingRaven. He was the most well known toxic streamer for both Dota and HoN. A clip channel existed to preserve his biggest chimpouts. This channel is gone, and has been gone for a long time. I have attempted to find these clips but it is clear the original channel is a fan of Raven and thought his work would bolster Raven's popularity. When he started getting in trouble at his university (he said the n word), they were all deleted, and I've never been able to find them.

These videos have enormous sentimental value to me. They have integrated into my dialog and are sewn to my brain. They are also memes to me and my old DotA friends. In particular, there is a video of an Enigma casting his ultimate Blackhole on Raven's entire team. He screams at them (and these words are recorded into my brain precisely): "You let an enigma with brown boots, 290 fucking move speed, walk up and cast a spell on you idiots!" This is a sentence of history altering importance which has changed my perspective on the world.

So, I ask you, if any of you have or may know someone who has any of the KingRaven archive, please let me know.....
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4DD5290930398440 is this the guy? if so i figure you've probably seen this playlist by now but it was worth the post just in case. if not, sorry for wasting your time.
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4DD5290930398440 is this the guy? if so i figure you've probably seen this playlist by now but it was worth the post just in case. if not, sorry for wasting your time.
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That's it, it was called Madcast, but notice there's like a couple episodes and the rest of Madcast is gone. It was the Madcast series that I'm thinking of.

P.S. https://www.youtube.com/@daggius is the clip channel I was mentioning.

P.P.S. Everything is unlisted in this playlist:
 
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Null said:
That's it, it was called Madcast, but notice there's like a couple episodes and the rest of Madcast is gone. It was the Madcast series that I'm thinking of.
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here's some more madcast/possible meme stuff i found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob04f2guE58 (not as sure on this one, i think it's madcast 5?)

https://www.youtube.com/@peachymoonz/videos this guy seems to be in that same sphere, so maybe someone can get leads from here?
 
These videos still exist but are "private". Not sure if having the original video id's help but there is a list of them here with links to madcast episodes, but they all are private.


Also the guy still streams on twitch, but I know thats not what you're looking for.

This guy has a few madcast videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOGZUDKZj0 this is madcast 03

And I have seen these guys mentioned with KingRaven on a few old dota forum posts. "We Say Things is an esports and Dota podcast hosted by SUNSfan & syndereN"

Its a DOTA podcast going back years, and also affiliated with DotaCinema also mentioned a few times alongside KingRaven. THey might not be forum users here but maybe reaching out to them? https://www.youtube.com/@WeSayThings/about

Sorry I cant help more, I was never into the DOTA scene, but I thought I'd offer some of my detectiveness to the cause. Maybe these leads will help others go deeper.

There are so many great things lost from the internet that we thought would be here forever eh?
 
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stgggs sounds really familiar too, I kind of want to say he was in GamerFood or whatever.
 
His insults seem to be so infamous that an entire website was devoted to them: http://www.kingraveninsults.com/

The site appears to be down now but the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine has 20 captures between November 20, 2010 and May 30, 2023.

November 20, 2010:
[DRD]KingRaven: Typical fucking noobfag
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November 15, 2011:
[DRD]KingRaven: Such a plantfuck fagscum
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December 17, 2011:
[DRD]KingRaven: Such a public fatscum
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And that's about it; the rest of the captures are dead links.

EDIT: the website was a generator using the words he would use, rather than original insults he himself made.
 
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Some of the clips you're looking for might be in these Twitch VODs:
https://www.twitch.tv/drddaggius/videos?filter=highlights&sort=time
Or it might be possible to find stuff by trawling through the archives for "Dotallyrad.com", which was apparently the website run by the clip channel you mentioned.
https://web.archive.org/web/20111201000000*/http://www.dotallyrad.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/http://www.dotallyrad.com/tag/kingraven/
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Null said:
In particular, there is a video of an Enigma casting his ultimate Blackhole on Raven's entire team. He screams at them (and these words are recorded into my brain precisely): "You let an enigma with brown boots, 290 fucking move speed, walk up and cast a spell on you idiots!" This is a sentence of history altering importance which has changed my perspective on the world.
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I'm very sorry to go a bit off-rails and hope you don't mind but I think it's the best moment to ask: Is that why you used to have Enigma as your avatar in the early days?, I knew the character but never really understood why you had it as an avatar lol again, apologies if you don't want me asking that in this thread.
 
Zvantastika said:
I'm very sorry to go a bit off-rails and hope you don't mind but I think it's the best moment to ask: Is that why you used to have Enigma as your avatar in the early days?, I knew the character but never really understood why you had it as an avatar lol again, apologies if you don't want me asking that in this thread.
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kind of, i just liked enigma and thought it went well with the name null
 
To offer some clarifications:
Daggius was the founder of 'Dotally Rad', a website (linked earlier, now defunct) which was basically a platform for him to complain about S2 games (the people who made Heroes of Newerth (HoN), smack talk the pro scene, and general tomfoolery in HoN. Dotally Rad had several key members, the big ones being KingRaven, and believe it or not, MoonMeander. Other members included Cardinal, PEACHZ, TylerG, moraivius ( I am sure I am forgetting others). They had a clan in game with the clan tag 'DRD'. They all played together all the time, including on Daggius' stream, and on Moon's stream. If you have heard of Moon, that is because he was a player (and is currently a coach) for big Dota 2 teams like OG, he even won several tournaments back in 2016-2017. Moon at the time was basically the biggest HoN streamer on Twitch, and one of the biggest streamers on the entire site (this is shortly after Justin.tv spun off the gaming section into twitch.) If you don't believe me, here is the link to his Liquidpedia page where it acknowledges that he was in that clan. Article he wrote on DRD as proof he wrote there.
DRD was hugely influential to the HoN scene, so much so that the HoN forums at the time were overrun with people whining about their toxicity. S2 funny enough even added a 'dumpster' taunt into the game due to the catchphrase DRD guys would use, specifically KingRaven.
Basically, in HoN, you could specifically target a player on the other team with a taunt. When you target them, your hero is revealed for the duration. If you kill the player you taunted, something would happen to their dead body. A variety of taunts were in the game, from a crying baby showing up over the dead body, to a tombstone. The dumpster taunt was basically a dumpster falling from the sky and landing on the dead body.
Without going way off into the weeds, HoN culture at the time was extremely toxic. One of the entire points of the game was to try and make opponents as mad as possible. The DRD crew shares a big portion of the credit for this. HoN was infamous for how you could taunt the other team, including:
  • Pausing the game after a kill so you could laugh at the other team.
  • 'g dropping' basically just spamming the letter 'g' in as many lines of text as possible after you kill someone.
  • Taunts, and kill announcers that were designed to make people mad.
  • The game supported text macros, so you could drop huge paragraphs of text, with varying colors. This was because the text chat was uncapped into how fast you could type again, so if you had a macro you could spam incredibly fast. Below is an example.
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Some of the common insults the DRD guys used:
  • get dumpstered
  • hit the showers
  • mad bad (as in you are mad and bad)
  • kid ur nothing get good
  • small son
Some videos for reference, I have not archived them so if someone wants to feel free.

There is way more I could talk about, but I didn't want to write some huge screed about HoN when this is really about KingRaven and the DRD guys. If anyone has questions about this stuff I could probably answer, but I don't think I have any video archives or old vods of them that haven't been already posted in the playlists.
 
I don't know of this helps but Daggius has an alternate youtube channel in his about page:


It's all battlebot stuff but it's active as of this year. He also appears to have a reddit account under the same name.


Looking at the user history it has posts about battlebots so I'm assuming it's the same person.

Maybe someone could reach out to him directly?

Edit - The reddit account looks like it has been active within the last 4 days.

Edit 2 - Also, sorry if this has already been uncovered.
 
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Null said:
I am exploiting 100% of my power and reach as admin of the CWCki Forums to find something I need. I tried this years ago but I am trying again with even worse odds.

Over 10 years ago, before the forum existed, there was a streamer named KingRaven. He was the most well known toxic streamer for both Dota and HoN. A clip channel existed to preserve his biggest chimpouts. This channel is gone, and has been gone for a long time. I have attempted to find these clips but it is clear the original channel is a fan of Raven and thought his work would bolster Raven's popularity. When he started getting in trouble at his university (he said the n word), they were all deleted, and I've never been able to find them.

These videos have enormous sentimental value to me. They have integrated into my dialog and are sewn to my brain. They are also memes to me and my old DotA friends. In particular, there is a video of an Enigma casting his ultimate Blackhole on Raven's entire team. He screams at them (and these words are recorded into my brain precisely): "You let an enigma with brown boots, 290 fucking move speed, walk up and cast a spell on you idiots!" This is a sentence of history altering importance which has changed my perspective on the world.

So, I ask you, if any of you have or may know someone who has any of the KingRaven archive, please let me know.....
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I agree with your sentiment but I really wish you wouldn't use phrases like "toxic" here. It sounds judgmental and like you're demonizing children with autism. Why should we all just "get over" autism? We can't - the sooner we realize that, the sooner we can all stop arguing
 
Man, I remember some boomers using the word 'splinternet' a lot to refer to how stuff its just lost on the 'net.

And indeed there's so much stuff from the old internet (and not that old) that's just gone, or maybe lost in some LTO backup degrading in some damp storage room.

The depressing part is that you could fit all of 90's internet into one hour of data being uploaded to garbage dumps like instagram and tiktok...
 
Evan-Wynn-D said:
I agree with your sentiment but I really wish you wouldn't use phrases like "toxic" here. It sounds judgmental and like you're demonizing children with autism. Why should we all just "get over" autism? We can't - the sooner we realize that, the sooner we can all stop arguing
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Something something autistic master race
 
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