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Cubanodun said:
This must be one of the cases where the fix has 50% chances of killing you
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50% chance of killing you vs. 100% chance of guaranteed death through inaction.

I haven’t given a shit about Dr Who in ages and thought it turned to shit well before Chinballs, but for people who still care about it, even a 30% rate of success is better than they could’ve hoped for.
 
I just want to see the disappointment on the faces of RTD simps when he doesn’t cater to their nostalgia and demands. Also we know full well that cancel culture is much more rabid now than ever so all it takes is one bad step from Davies to shatter the pedestal fans put him on for years.

Speaking of nostalgia the dream team of companions they want back from that era will never happen now that Barrowman is unpersoned and the guy who played Mickey was revealed to be a sex pest in real life. If they brought Martha and Rose back they would have to retcon Mickey out of existence and if Donna came back they would have to retcon some excuse to let her see the Doctor again.
 
TheImportantFart said:
I've listened to Stranded 1. Here be my thoughts.

I rather enjoyed it overall. I'd rank it above Ravenous 1 and Dark Eyes 1, but below Doom Coalition 1. Your enjoyment however will depend on whether you like slower-paced, down to earth stories, or prefer something with a bit more momentum. When they say the Doctor's stranded, they really mean it. This is about as earthbound as things have ever gotten for Doctor Who. One of the stories is literally about the Doctor trying to track down a mugger. That's it. No sci-fi elements whatsoever.

I thought this made a nice change. I usually listen to these audios while I'm driving and the timey wimey stuff can be quite hard to keep track of in those circumstances, so I appreciated something that was easier to follow.

Oh yeah, I have to address the elephant with the inverted trunk in the room don't I? First up, there's been a bit of false advertising going around. I wouldn't really call Tania a companion strictly speaking (at least not yet) since there's no TARDIS, although if you follow the Companion Chronicles range (and if you don't, I recommend you do, because it's excellent), you know the definition of "companion" can get rather generous. The Doctor and co are based at his house in Baker Street in this story, which has been converted into flats since he was last there, and Tania's one of the people who lives in the building. It's also revealed that she's a

Torchwood operative.

As for whether the fact Tania's trans ever comes up... yeah, it does, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was with You Know Who and I found Tania substantially less annoying than Bliss from the Eighth Doctor Time War series (oh yeah, Time War 4's coming out soon. Thank fuck for Terry Molloy and Julia McKenzie), although that's not a particularly high bar to clear.

My one major quibble with the Tania character is they put her in a relationship with the Doctor's companion Liv. The two characters have no chemistry whatsoever and it feels incredibly forced. It also plays into a scene that made me laugh for all the wrong reasons. Although Rebecca Root passes reasonably well (before you laugh at me for saying that, please bear in mind this is Britfagistan and the average middle aged woman looks like this over here):

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she literally sounds like a gay man. So when she reveals to Liz that she's trans (to which Liz responds with "So what"), my first thought was:


I know we know because of the marketing, but the script treats it like a big dramatic reveal and all I was thinking was "Gee, what gave it away?" I just hope we're spared a stink ditch sex scene before this range is out. Given the fact that Tania's a

Torchwood operative

is kept secret from Liz, I can only see this ending badly.

The other new characters are a mixed bag. There's an elderly gay couple who live in one of the other flats in Baker Street and are a pair of casual racists which amused me. Good to know even LGBT characters can be bigots now. There's a whiny kid with daddy issues who's played by Peter Davison's son (how's that for a meta narrative?) and a trio of pajeet sisters who are kind of bland.

The Curator's barely in this. He shows up right at the beginning acting as a sort of guardian angel figure, and then disappears for the rest of the set. I knew things were going to be inconclusive in terms of who he was, but I was hoping we'd see more of him. The cynical side of me thinks this might just have been a marketing ploy to get people interested, and he'll never show up again in this series, but we'll see.

All that said, I thought this was a nice change of pace for the Eighth Doctor range. It might be a bit too sleepy for some though.
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Sorry to reply to a year old post, especially in this now cursed thread, but I've finally gotten around to listening to The Eighth Doctor: Stranded 1. I guess this is only the first story. (there's another one out there that I haven't listened to yet,) but I actually think it's shit so far.

Right off the bat, they pretty clearly say that "The Curator" is just a retired future Doctor.
I do not like this.
At very least, the 50th kept it somewhat ambiguous as to "Who" the curator was. I like the character even less when he keeps saying "I can't get involved" and then keeps getting involved over and over again. That's just fucking stupid. And Old Man Tom Baker is on the cover of the second set, so I'm assuming that he sticks around to do the same in the next one.

Moving on, the tranny in this story wasn't actually *that* offensive to me- surprising probably everyone here who knows me, including even me.
As you said, his I'm going to use male pronouns for this character, because he will never be a real woman. I don't have anything against anybody who does the opposite though., "I know this may be something a shock, but (breathes slowly) I'm actually a tranny," speech, really *doesn't* work, and is actually funny as hell in an an audio setting when you could already hear that he sounds like a dude with a sissy accent from the beginning. (I'd actually forgotten that you spoiled that, so I laughed out loud when I heard it for myself.)

Straight talk, I literally would have assumed that he was another shitty beta male if he didn't bring the entire story to a halt just to call attention to his mental illness. I could get over that though. I do disagree with you here, the man voicing 'Tania' only barely physically passes to me, so it probably would have been even funnier on screen, especially with that obvious man voice.
This does bring me to the Liv/Tania "romance" and I 100% agree with you. There is absolutely zero chemistry there. For the first 1.5 episodes before they started "dating" he was a creepy fucking weirdo to Liv. It was so creepy that even I felt a little bit uncomfortable listening to him try to guilt Liv into a relationship, and I honestly don't usually care about that kind of shit most of the time.
I guess a man being fucking creepy to a woman is ok in the current year when said man is pretending that he's a woman though, so we're still totally cool.
Anyway, I don't get why Liv was paired with this tranny. From what I've seen so far, that seems entirely out of character for her. I don't think she's particularly looking for love, and I wouldn't have expected this creepy fucking weirdo to have won her won her over with basically no effort.- But I already didn't especially like Liv to begin with, so ultimately this is all just whatever to me.

Here's my biggest problem with "Stranded," though. They're basically writing 8 as if he was early 12, and equally shitting on him as if he deserved to be treated like early 12. This is complete bullshit. It's true, certain Doctors can be unfeeling and cold assholes, but the only time 8 was even remotely ever portrayed this way was after he was... (ahem) *stranded* alone on a planet of jellyfish people with the lifespan of mayflies for several hundred years, and he's long since gotten over that. From the beginning of this set, Liv and Helen are acting like 8 has always been this uncaring autistic asshole- Except 8 really hasn't ever been that way at any point when either of them have known him. In retrospect, they're both fucking terrible in their own rights in this box set, funny neither of them ever really get called out. Liv (and another minor character who literally died both got shot, and some of the minor characters actually blamed 8 over it when he wasn't even there when it happened, and it literally had nothing to do with him. He did end up catching another totally unrelated mugger, but the cops were clearly telling him off for doing even that.

If anything, 8's biggest problem for most of his life was always that he cares *way too much.* It's literally the fucking reason why he died, even after all the crazy shit that he's lived through, and even after so many of his companions have died. And he's mostly been that way from the beginning since the TV movie. I don't like "Stranded" trying to pretend that 8, especially *this* 8 after all he's been through is particularly cold and detached. That's early sixie, that's early 12, that isn't at all 8.
 
Dante Alighieri said:
I just finished rewatching Torchwood and I had forgotten how quickly that show went to shit.
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Didn't it also kind of start out as shit? "Cyberwoman" was one of the first few episodes after all. (and yes, Chinballs wrote it, he wrote a lot of other bad episodes as well iirc.)

I honestly haven't watched Torchwood in a very long while, but I basically remember it being Doctor Who, but for "adult" people who laugh at words like 'penis' and 'fart'. Not the worst premise for somebody like me, but the writing was pretty consistently shit from the beginning.

If anything, I remember "Children of Earth" (which was technically Series 3) being *significantly* better than the first 2 series were. It was kind of similar to 10's first episode, "The Christmas Invasion," except the Doctor never showed up to stop the alien invasion. That's a great idea for a story. The only thing about it that bugged me, was that after Captain Jack killed his grandson to stop the invasion (which he arguably had no choice but to do), there is no way in hell that the Doctor (if written properly) would have ever wanted anything to do with him again. So in retrospect, I guess it's a good thing that Barrowman liked to pull his penis out on set and sexually assault people 15+ years ago, because now that people actually care about such obviously retarded behavior, he probably won't be back to Doctor Who any time soon XD.

Miracle day *was* fucking garbage though.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
Didn't it also kind of start out as shit? "Cyberwoman" was one of the first few episodes after all. (and yes, Chinballs wrote it, he wrote a lot of other bad episodes as well iirc.)

I honestly haven't watched Torchwood in a very long while, but I basically remember it being Doctor Who, but for "adult" people who laugh at words like 'penis' and 'fart'. Not the worst premise for somebody like me, but the writing was pretty consistently shit from the beginning.

If anything, I remember "Children of Earth" (which was technically Series 3) being *significantly* better than the first 2 series were. It was kind of similar to 10's first episode, "The Christmas Invasion," except the Doctor never showed up to stop the alien invasion. That's a great idea for a story. The only thing about it that bugged me, was that after Captain Jack killed his grandson to stop the invasion (which he arguably had no choice but to do), there is no way in hell that the Doctor (if written properly) would have ever wanted anything to do with him again. So in retrospect, I guess it's a good thing that Barrowman liked to pull his penis out on set and sexually assault people 15+ years ago, because now that people actually care about such obviously retarded behavior, he probably won't be back to Doctor Who any time soon XD.

Miracle day *was* fucking garbage though.
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My recollections of Miracle Day was that it should've been shorter, not 10 fucking episodes
 
I’m still standing by my autistic theory that the reason the BBC waited until now to unperson Barrowman was because Noel Clarke got metoo’d. I actually did see people complain that it was unfair that Noel, a black guy, got canceled while Barrowman was still around so the BBC probably did it as damage control to prevent being accused of racism.
 
Speaking of a black guy, I actually forgot that Noel Clarke got canceled. For shits and giggles, I googled him and I got this:
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I don't know why he's hugging Jodie, but I do believe that this is from like *right* before he got outed as a sex pest. lol. I don't have any other opinion, except for the obligatory 'poor dumb Mickey'. I also don't know why he said 'you're welcome' but I guess Marfa just wasn't doing it for him anymore. XD
 
UnKillShredDur said:
Didn't it also kind of start out as shit? "Cyberwoman" was one of the first few episodes after all. (and yes, Chinballs wrote it, he wrote a lot of other bad episodes as well iirc.)
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True, I'll give you that. It had it's good moments but the show got much worse.
 
"Torchwood" was Doctor Who for insufferable white women. Then Doctor Who became Doctor Who for insufferable white women, which made Torchwood redundant.
 
(This is a slightly old article, but it is ever more meaningful thanks to recent news.)

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"Former Doctor Who showrunner Russell T. Davies, who got the show going again when it rebooted in 2005, doesn’t understand why Doctor Who hasn’t expanded into an entire universe of ongoing series."

Big Finish literally did that, you braindead faggot. It was even better than the show proper in a lot of cases, especially back when you originally said this bullshit. (BF has gotten a lot more 'woke' recently, and I doubt that's going to change any time soon. So fuck it all.)
 
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