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Kneon vlogged a bit about Dr. Who and the BBC who might go broke.

One Youtuber dropped that good one.

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I've been a doctor who fan my who life, Tom Baker hell yes I'd pay 300 for his signature, I wouldn't pay 5$ for the person who is in part responsible for the disaster of what has become current who.
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With all due respect to Mr. Baker, I wouldn't pay $300 for his signature either. If, however, he wants to share some off-color stories about Lalla Ward, I might have some extra cash laying around.
 
I've seen feminists go from "The fans are saying it's shit now just because the doctor is a woman! Sexist bastards!" to "The BBC deliberately made it shit so they'd have an excuse to never have a female doctor again! Sexist bastards!"
 
Damn, that’s gotta sting. https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news...GYNi6D_W-UTd3Y1JyKhN0nuUVUS1cMcPch4s_ECg5GZuQ

Doctor Who star Jodie Whittaker has reportedly been "snubbed" of her iconic regeneration scene after the show received its lowest ratings ever.

It's claimed bosses want the BBC1 show to take a break and are considering a complete reboot in between Jodie's final episodes, and her replacement - yet to be revealed - hopping aboard the Tardis.


Jodie recently filmed a New Year's Day special and she is set to star in two more later this year before she eventually signs off.

However, the possible reboot could mean Jodie will not get the chance to participate in the usual regeneration scene - much like when Sylvester McCoy missed out when the show's original run came to an end before the latest run of series began in 2005.


to revive the flagging fortunes of a programme which is adored by millions around the world.

"That could see them take the decision to put space between Jodie's time in the Tardis and that of her successor. Which means she may not be seen regenerating. She has already wrapped filming on this year’s special episodes, and a new Time Lord has yet to be revealed."

Jodie's New Year's Day episode of Doctor Who drew in only 3.4million viewers - making it the show's lowest ever rating since 2005.

In recent weeks, the actress, 39, opened up about her emotional final scenes for the BBC1 show in an interview.

She told Entertainment Weekly: "I've shot my version of regen[eration], and it was singularly the most emotional day on set I think I've ever had.

"It's a really bizarre feeling, because it's the best time I've ever had on a job, and I made the decision to leave it, so it's a really strange thing to do to yourself."

Jodie added: "It was a wonderfully-celebratory-slash-grief-ridden day that I could spend with the family that I'd made. I suppose the best thing about it is that the episodes are still on. So until they're off, I don't have to really get my head around the fact that it's not my part!"

The Mirror has contacted BBC for a comment.
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However, the possible reboot could mean Jodie will not get the chance to participate in the usual regeneration scene - much like when Sylvester McCoy missed out when the show's original run came to an end before the latest run of series began in 2005.
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McCoy did get to film a regeneration in the 1996 TV Movie, it was Paul McGann who missed out until Night of the Doctor during the 50th Anniversary celebration.
 
Random Internet Person said:
I think they might. The bigger question is if the BBC will end it for another 15-20 years.
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Saying this as a huge Whovian, I think Who desperately needs a return to the wilderness years. Take it out back and give it as dignified a death as it can muster.

Let new fresh turbonerds take a crack at it in whatever passes for fanzines and Virgin books nowadays. I'm sure a Peter Darville-Evans 2.0 is out there somewhere.

(or just give it to me, I'm fairly certain I can write better than Chibs.)
 
DuranceVile said:
Saying this as a huge Whovian, I think Who desperately needs a return to the wilderness years. Take it out back and give it as dignified a death as it can muster.

Let new fresh turbonerds take a crack at it in whatever passes for fanzines and Virgin books nowadays. I'm sure a Peter Darville-Evans 2.0 is out there somewhere.

(or just give it to me, I'm fairly certain I can write better than Chibs.)
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As another fan of the series, I think this is pretty much the best course of action. Can the show, let it actually rest for a while, and then bring it back in a decade or so in a fresh manner - like back in 2005. It's not guaranteed to be better, of course, but I'd rather see the show go on an extended hiatus than continue to spiral ever downwards.
 
I have an idea of how they could bring David Tennant back, and still not be *quite* as stupid as the recent show has been.

Hear me out here (because this *is* gonna be VERY stupid.)

First thing's first, you're gonna have to bring Bernard Cribbins back, because... everything that's happened in the show *after* 10 "saved" Wilf from that idiotic contraption that guarantees that somebody's going to die in a meltdown, didn't actually happen.

It's all been a fever dream that 10 was having, including his death march. As it turns out, instead of taking Wilf's place, 10 tried to break Wilf out with his sonic or whatever.

10 eventually succeeded, but it was too late. Wilf had already taken a lethal dose of radiation (or whatever was going on there) but before he died, a radioactive and crazy Wilf bit 10 and turned him into a "WereWilf".
So Tennant is now back, but from time to time he randomly transforms into Bernard Cribbins (Still playing the Doctor.).

I'll take every bad sticker I deserve for that stupid AF hypothetical, but I bet you can't honestly tell me that's any dumber than the Timeless Child was. XD
 
I don’t think the rumour is true, but if they bring David Tennant back to play The Fourteenth Doctor they’ll excuse it with this scene with Tom Baker as The Curator in the 50th Anniversary special.

The Eleventh Doctor: I never forget a face.
The Curator: I know you don’t and in years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favourites.
 
The Valeyard said:
I don’t think the rumour is true, but if they bring David Tennant back to play The Fourteenth Doctor they’ll excuse it with this scene with Tom Baker as The Curator in the 50th Anniversary special.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1cbQVfVfSrI
The Eleventh Doctor: I never forget a face.
The Curator: I know you don’t and in years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favourites.
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The rumors I've heard point to a continuity reboot with Tennant playing the new First Doctor. And I just realized that if he did take up that role next year, Tennant would only be about two years younger than William Hartnell was when he first started playing the First Doctor. Man, do I feel fucking old now.

Also, if the rumors of a reboot are true, then right about now Steven Moffat has to be wondering what in the fuck the point was in him giving the Doctor a new regeneration cycle.
 
Ah... Doctor Who, another one of my beloved franchises having been burned to the ground.

I started out as a fan of the old Who series (Tom Baker is still the best Doctor, I will fight you on this), and the renewed series picked me up fairly quick with Eccleston being a decent fit the character. It is a real shame we didn't get more of him. The writing was B-Tier sci-fi, but it had always been, so I was happy.

Tennant's run was pretty good, barring a few major missteps, but it also laid the foundations for many of the problems which started to eat at Doctor Who.

David Tennent was a radical departure in terms of character design for the Doctor. Sure the Doctor had had a relatively young appearance before, but never what one would call boy-band style attractive. So, you got the first round of *that* type of fangirl. You know they type, the kind that write Mary Sue self-insert slash-fiction with themselves as lovers of the main character. And the seeds were sown for the show to start catering to that particular audience.

Admittedly this was kept to a relative minimum during the Tennent era, and I think if Tennent had been a one off regeneration to show the "Timelord Victorious" I think the show would have had a longer golden era. His companions were largely tolerable at worst, barring episodes here and there. And importantly, while the Doctors companions were could be more or less important, they were still at the heart of it all, average Joes. This changed with Matt Smith.

Matt Smith's Doctor amped up the "youthful" elements of Tennent's variant to... eleven (sorry). While this is certainly not the path the I would have chosen, Smith's companions were really what started hammering the nail in. Something about them is unlikable, it does help that they tended to be disproportionally important to the Doctor's life. People complained Rose being a bit much in a few episodes, and they complained a lot about that Doctor-Donna episode. But they have nothing on the seasons long arcs of Pond and especially Clara.

Fucking Clara Oswald. You get the sense that they really just wanted to make a TV show about that character going around and saving the universe but they had to write Doctor Who instead. In seeming reaction, somebody got Peter Capaldi casted and in any other era of the show I think he would have done fine. However, he was doomed to Clara Oswald, and the writer's rot really starting to eat into the show.

The companions are/were not the only thing running the show into the ground. Yet, is was a very visible symptom of the general degradation of talent running the show that had already started to eat at it in the very late Tennent era,


TL:DR: Good writing is good, bad writing (taking over in the Matt Smith era) is bad. Also, Change Bad, get off my lawn.
 
BONE_Buddy said:
Fucking Clara Oswald. You get the sense that they really just wanted to make a TV show about that character going around and saving the universe but they had to write Doctor Who instead. In seeming reaction, somebody got Peter Capaldi casted and in any other era of the show I think he would have done fine. However, he was doomed to Clara Oswald, and the writer's rot really starting to eat into the show.

The companions are/were not the only thing running the show into the ground. Yet, is was a very visible symptom of the general degradation of talent running the show that had already started to eat at it in the very late Tennent era,


TL:biggrin:R: Good writing is good, bad writing (taking over in the Matt Smith era) is bad. Also, Change Bad, get off my lawn.
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12 and Clara was the only way that relationship worked for me. I think I can sum up how well it worked with the line "Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?". Kind of a pretentious way to describe it, but Capaldi gave that line gravitas. Smith's a great actor, but his Doctor just felt off with Clara (and with River too for that matter).
 
Out of interest, what is the general consensus here on Matt Smith? I watched Doctor Who growing up- Englishmen have to or face a fine- but I was never a major fan of it (Red Dwarf for me), but I always enjoyed Smith's performance. Tennant's era was better written, but he grates on me. Of course I am only knowledgeable on this new era. I'm sure older ones are a lot better.
 
Hazel Motes said:
Out of interest, what is the general consensus here on Matt Smith? I watched Doctor Who growing up- Englishmen have to or face a fine- but I was never a major fan of it (Red Dwarf for me), but I always enjoyed Smith's performance. Tennant's era was better written, but he grates on me. Of course I am only knowledgeable on this new era. I'm sure older ones are a lot better.
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I realize I'm probably going to be in the minority here, but for me, Smith's era has held up the best of all the NuWho Doctors. It lacks RTD's proto-SocJus bullshit and habit of pulling plot resolutions right the fuck out of nowhere, Amy and Rory have a pretty good dynamic with the Doctor, and it's overall pretty consistent in quality terms, with the bad episodes mostly just being boring and forgettable rather than anything to piss you off. Aside from maybe "Victory of the Daleks", but even that would probably have worked a lot better if it had been a two-parter.

As for Smith himself... eh, he's okay. Not in the same league as Eccleston, Tennant, or Capaldi, but he carries the show well enough.
 
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