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SnowBall said:
Rather random note but the Classic Who fandom has a surprisingly huge amount of fujos on it, or at least closeted ones. I lost count of the amount of incredibly horny Two/Jamie and Classic Master/Classic Doctor shippers I've seen.
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Not surprising. The Classic who fanbase was always loaded with "colorful characters."
 
HarryHowler said:
I realize I'm probably going to be in the minority here, but for me, Smith's era has held up the best of all the NuWho Doctors. It lacks RTD's proto-SocJus bullshit and habit of pulling plot resolutions right the fuck out of nowhere, Amy and Rory have a pretty good dynamic with the Doctor, and it's overall pretty consistent in quality terms, with the bad episodes mostly just being boring and forgettable rather than anything to piss you off. Aside from maybe "Victory of the Daleks", but even that would probably have worked a lot better if it had been a two-parter.

As for Smith himself... eh, he's okay. Not in the same league as Eccleston, Tennant, or Capaldi, but he carries the show well enough.
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Though I consider Smith's Doctor to be just ok, Season 5 of NuWho was the peak in my mind. Moffat hadn't indulged his worst excesses yet and it made for a pretty compelling story. I think it helped that I'd grown pretty tired of RTD's constant reset buttons and/or deus ex machina endings. Moffat seemed like a breath of fresh air at the time. The good old days before The Most Important Companion Ever retardation.

And Capaldi might edge out McGann as my favorite Doctor but WOW did he get hit with Peak Moffat. The whiplash between his first season persona and cool space grandpa was super jarring. I really would love to see him do Big Finish stuff. Nick Briggs, get on it.
 
DuranceVile said:
Though I consider Smith's Doctor to be just ok, Season 5 of NuWho was the peak in my mind. Moffat hadn't indulged his worst excesses yet and it made for a pretty compelling story. I think it helped that I'd grown pretty tired of RTD's constant reset buttons and/or deus ex machina endings. Moffat seemed like a breath of fresh air at the time. The good old days before The Most Important Companion Ever retardation.

And Capaldi might edge out McGann as my favorite Doctor but WOW did he get hit with Peak Moffat. The whiplash between his first season persona and cool space grandpa was super jarring. I really would love to see him do Big Finish stuff. Nick Briggs, get on it.
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Peter Capaldi is too good to do Big Finish. With his skill the dude should be given more substantive roles. Most skilled actor to play the Doctor by a longshot.
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Peter Capaldi is too good to do Big Finish. With his skill the dude should be given more substantive roles. Most skilled actor to play the Doctor by a longshot.
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No matter what has happened recently, I still do not believe that Capaldi is "too good" for Big Finish.
He was most definitely *too good* for late Moffat era writing of Who in the first place though...

If/when Capaldi goes to BF though, that wouldn't be the first time that BF rehabilitated a (worse than expected) doctor, played by an amazing actor, and one that the original writing shat on. Both Colin Baker and Paul McGann in BF have proven that.

I know BF is going woke lately... And that sucks. But seeing as how they made Sixie my favorite, I still have at least *some* faith in them.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
No matter what has happened recently, I still do not believe that Capaldi is "too good" for Big Finish.
He was most definitely *too good* for late Moffat era writing of Who in the first place though...

If/when Capaldi goes to BF though, that wouldn't be the first time that BF rehabilitated a (worse than expected) doctor, played by an amazing actor, and one that the original writing shat on. Both Colin Baker and Paul McGann in BF have proven that.

I know BF is going woke lately... And that sucks. But seeing as how they made Sixie my favorite, I still have at least *some* faith in them.
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I don't have faith BF will get beyond the woke phase sadly. At least they gave Colin a fitting regeneration episode before that.
 
I want Doctor Who to die and regenerate into something which doesn't suck.
feral cat #6385 said:
Most skilled actor to play the Doctor by a longshot.
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Davison was the best actor they'd had since Troughton.

They drove him away with the crap scripts for seasons 19 and 20.

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feral cat #6385 said:
I don't have faith BF will get beyond the woke phase sadly. At least they gave Colin a fitting regeneration episode before that.
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The last 6 episode I remember reading about sounded like it was one long virtue signal over how racist Lovecraft was. Wokeness won't let anything alone. Many such cases.

Edit: Looked it up, it was called the Lovecraft Invasion.
 
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DuranceVile said:
The last 6 episode I remember reading about sounded like it was one long virtue signal over how racist Lovecraft was. Wokeness won't let anything alone. Many such cases.

Edit: Looked it up, it was called the Lovecraft Invasion.
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They delayed the release of that one during the BLM/George Fentanyl riots and may or may not have rerecorded parts of it

EDIT: Per the tardis wiki:
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JamesFargo said:
The Doctor implied that Lovecraft is the worst person he's ever met. Which includes Davros.
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Yeah I mean Davros doesn't have any racist or xenophobic view-

That is legitimately terrible, you can feel the author's virtue signal slapping the table. I used to watch Rabbi From Another Planet's reviews of Big Finish episodes and he gave a barometer of how woke it was. I eventually stopped because just about every review was "it's terminally woke." They even did it to the Third Doctor series.
 
DuranceVile said:
That is legitimately terrible, you can feel the author's virtue signal slapping the table.
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They have no interest in how they sound, outside of 'bringing Trump/Boris down.'

To be seen to 'pull a punch' for the sake of making art could be viewed as capitulation.

Guess you could argue that why's the right never said anything insightful about Obama; they just went feet-first into calling him a crypto-Muslim who's gonna put you in a FEMA camp.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
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Honestly if I were in RTD's seat being handed the flaming wreck of the franchise I'd revived from the bin of history, I'd bring back the era's most popular Doctor too.

They already laid the groundwork with that whole "a few familiar faces" line from Tom Baker in the anniversary. Isn't 10 the canonically shortest lived Doctor? He definitely didn't want to go.

The thing is that Davies needs to savagely retcon Chib's doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the timeless child. This isn't like the half human line from the McGann movie (to be fair that's only because we didn't get the full show to explore that stupidity even more). There's a lot more damage done this time.

He's got a lot of goodwill to win back and I'm not sure it's possible. I know nowadays nostalgia tends to make him seem better than he really was as a showrunner but there were a LOT of terrible, poorly resolved stories back in his era.
 
DuranceVile said:
The thing is that Davies needs to savagely retcon Chib's doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the timeless child.
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It wouldn't be so bad, except that Gallifrey has really only worked in one story ("Deadly Assassin"). Everything since then has been togas and techno-shite.

I'd be interested in exploring another side to them. Someone, I forget who (Cartmel?), proposed that it be more like Gormenghast. Anyone who lives that long is going to have some kind of physical or mental abnormality. Gallifrey should be the most psychedelic planet we've ever seen.

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DuranceVile said:
He's "borrowed" someone else's face twice too.... Because the dude shot him I guess?
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It's a production joke. Nothing too serious.

Hartnell had a double (the Abbot of Amboise). Troughton had Ramon Salamander. Nyssa met her twin in "Black Orchid", and I'm pretty sure Peri was mistaken for Queen Anne in the audios.
 
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