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Jodie looks like someone's mom who is cosplaying as Tennant.
here's the issue. that's my type. i keep getting distracted by how cute she is (TO ME) that i'm not getting those criticisms.

did you ever see the movie Enemy, with Jake Gylinhaul? there's this theme of spiders = fear. i didn't get that either because i like spiders.

anyway, i get what you mean, but i can't process it through my rose tinted glasses.
 
Jodie looks like someone's mom who is cosplaying as Tennant.

Rumor has it the behind-the-scenes production is a shitshow.
I'm sure RTD didn't demand total creative control for no reason.

Three completely different takes on the same character that might as well be different incarnations, for all anyone cares.
This one bugs me on multiple levels. I felt like the "am I a baddie?" question was played out through 10s career. But I was happy to have a Doctor with more of an edge to him again in nuWho. Eccleston definitely played his Doctor with an edge, but he wasn't with us for long. The stuff he pulled in his first series got me excited for a darker, more pragmatic take on the Doctor. It feels like Moffat chickened out on that when we got Doctor Disco in his next series. Also, forgive me my sins, I actually liked Danny Pink. I felt like that whole anti-soldier thing felt super weird given well... the Doctor's entire history . It was just unneeded conflict. Also found myself agreeing with him on Clara's unhealthy obsession with the Doctor. Companionwank seems to be a real problem in nuWho in general. It's nice to see that called out even though Moffat somehow beat out Rose Tyler for most obnoxiously oversold companion.

Unless RTD saves the series, my personal canon is that Heaven Sent was the Doctor's dying moments and breaking the wall was him embracing whatever afterlife Time Lords have. Sucks that Rassilon only gave him one extra regeneration, but then he would do something dickish like that.
 
Yea, I agree. But due to the timing we were cheated out of at least two more movies with him. I remember seeing LD in the theater and walking out, saying "that was great!", to be met by a franchise-fatigue inspired shrug of the shoulders by everyone I was with.
That's the real tragedy of Dalton's Bond: right actor, right material, wrong zeitgeist. I imagine tonal whiplash was part of it: a grim, intense Bond going up against brutal, grounded enemies couldn't have been a sharper contrast with the geriatric silliness of the late Moore era.
Also, forgive me my sins, I actually liked Danny Pink. I felt like that whole anti-soldier thing felt super weird given well... the Doctor's entire history . It was just unneeded conflict. Also found myself agreeing with him on Clara's unhealthy obsession with the Doctor.
I liked Danny as well. Character-wise, he's in the same position as Al in Die Hard: a good man who made a terrible (but reasonable) mistake with lethal consequences, and is understandably gun-shy as a result. Sad thing is, if they'd stick with the darker version of 12, he would have made a much better companion than Clara. Someone who carries that kind of weight would have been a much better check on the Doctor's judge-jury-executioner ego explosions as opposed to fangirl Clara. (People give Kill the Moon a lot of shit, but it's worth noting that the Doctor literally had to run away to force Clara to make a choice without leaning on him.)

Also, no love for Chewetiel Eijofor (I can't spell that any better than I can pronounce it) as the Fourteenth Doctor? Him reprising his role as The Operative with a Doctor Who twist could potentially be awesome.
 
Sad thing is, if they'd stick with the darker version of 12, he would have made a much better companion than Clara.
For one it seems odd that Moffat, who is almost a proud elitist snob himself, is trying to write Danny as some kind of hero to the working man. Ultimately it's about the Doctor measuring his own dick to impress Clara.

Moffat wasn’t very good at wrapping up the stuff he started. Amy watches her baby dissolve into a pile of goo but oh well there are more adventures to come so get over it.:smug:

He even managed to repeat this pattern in a show which had only three episodes (Dracula).
 
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For one it seems odd that Moffat, who is almost a proud elitist snob himself, is trying to write Danny as some hero of the working man:
Is that what he was doing? I assumed it was generic shitlib "Iraq war bad" combined with Clara needing a boyfriend because she wasn't special enough or something. Like so much of the Moffatt era, there was a germ of a good idea that got passed over for more whimsical bullshit.

(To Mof's specific comments: congratulations, you watched "Midnight.")
 
The Doctor's hostility to Danny for being a soldier felt like that part in Jay's Fall of Doctor Who video where Jodie's getting pissy about someone using a gun against a bunch of nonsentient robots. Then Jay cuts to every moment the Doctor has held, fired, or otherwise approved the use of, guns.
 
Is that what he was doing? I assumed it was generic shitlib "Iraq war bad"
He talked up series 8 like it was going to crack open the Doctor and expose his patrician origins. Extract from DWM #477:
I like that he's the ultimate autocratic liberal - you know, the fascist liberal. It's what I love about the Robin Hood thing, because it reminds us that the Doctor never stops being a nobleman. He's a high-born nobleman, used to wealth and privilege, who decided to come down among us lot and help out. He thinks he's one of the guys, but never stops assuming that he's in charge and that people will make him tea... He doesn't really tolerate being second in command. He's helping out the people, so long as he can be the boss person with the best bow and arrow - and one day that will come back to haunt him."
I don't think humbling the Doctor was ever really in the cards. Danny just isn't Moffat's sort of man.

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Then Jay cuts to every moment the Doctor has held, fired, or otherwise approved the use of, guns.
 
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My vote for the new Doctor.
I know it's not a daring choice, but l really think he could do it, and you know the board of directors would love the optics.
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And new companion, Maria Thayer. An American ginger.
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Maybe another companion. Maybe someone time displaced from the 60's.
idk. i'm down for more Russell T Davies.

Jodie Whitticker was charming, i really liked her, but she didn't get a chance to spread her wings till Flux, and now it's too late.
I've been yelling "RICHARD AYOADE" at the top of my lungs for new doctor since fucking Tennant announced he was leaving. You are a man (or woman) of immaculate tastes.
 
I don't think this was posted earlier. tl;dw, BBC saying Who's ratings are still "perfectly respectable" and that it still pulls in numbers that would make streaming services envious. Like Star Wars going from a multibillion to a million dollar franchise, going from competing with The Avengers at ComicCon to revival show lows is a very good thing.

 
He talked up series 8 like it was going to crack open the Doctor and expose his patrician origins. Extract from DWM #477:

I don't think humbling the Doctor was ever really in the cards. Danny just isn't Moffat's sort of man.

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Isn’t the Private Eye satire and a rumor mill?

Also the whole “elitist snob” narrative is shit made up by Tumblr and the internet. Every single person I know who met him says he is legit nothing like that at all, that he is friendly and polite and chill, He has criticized his scripts all the time and sings absolute praises of Davies and other show runners who does the same to him in return. Every single smear piece I’ve seen on the dude is either made up by trolls or things taken out of extreme context by the Tumblr sjw crowd. It’s almost impossible for me to take any claims seriously after years of fans crying wolf and being burnt out by the rumor mill coming up with nothing of worth.

People in the general fandom desperately try to grasp at anything to prove Moffat (and pretty much anyone in entertainment they don’t like) is terrible that they will believe any old shit they see online if it confirms their biases. What makes it bad is that the guy…really hasn’t personally done anything to deserve the severe bile and vitriol. Not even Chibnall has gotten this severe, visceral hatred I’ve seen towards Moffat. At this point it has less to do with me being a Moffat fan and more being tired of the fandom repeating the same decade old talking points over and over again.

Also I want to note that this post isn’t directed at anyone in this thread, just the general fanbase. You guys are cool even if I fiercely disagree with 98% of the stuff in this thread.
 
Also the whole “elitist snob” narrative is shit made up by Tumblr and the internet
Moffat is to normal writing what anti-humor is to regular humor: a Kafkaesque experience of finger-snapping savviness. The characters breeze through it with a daze of self-assuredness. The writing feels smug while simultaneously being brain-dead.

Seeing the word "Sherlock" makes me involuntarily put a pillow over my face and push down.

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The Doctor's hostility to Danny for being a soldier felt like that part in Jay's Fall of Doctor Who video where Jodie's getting pissy about someone using a gun against a bunch of nonsentient robots. Then Jay cuts to every moment the Doctor has held, fired, or otherwise approved the use of, guns.
Could this have something to do with modern BBC rules or something? Prior to the Dunblane massacre things were much more lax, but since that there's been a number of instances in the UK where book publishers and broadcasters who targeted a more YA demographic wouldn't allow protagonists to do anything that could be taken as approving of guns in their works at all. I recall Anthony Horowitz's Alex Rider being censored, the teen spy was originally slated to have a gun but the publisher was just having none of it so Horowitz had to improvise and give him 'gadgets'. It's weird, cus it's not like they seem to care about other weapons, like telephone-bombs that blow your head off if you don't dial them upside down (as was the case in Alex Rider, I forget which book), it's specifically guns that they always have a problem with.
 
Currently listening to the recently released final outing of the James Dreyfus incarnation of the Master from Big Finish. It's nice to have one that doesn't come across as an ADHD commercial.

Pity they canned him for rustling troon jimmies in Twitter.
 
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