Dr. Who

  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
gaysexenjoyer said:
View attachment 7791147
Click to expand...
That looks like an old Doctor Who Manga trailer someone made years back. Only that was in colour.

For fan-made madness, I favour the epic Dalek webcomic "Second Empire". A semi-serious, semi-comedy story that got way out of hand on the author's part. Lots of in-jokes and classic era Daleks. You see the "New Paradigm" Daleks in the background in the Dalek's secret museum of failures at one point which made me chuckle, even though I rather liked them.


EDIT:
I also like how the comic does little things to justify what is seen, like how Daleks might be rolling down the street when they can fly.
1755422008404.webp
 
Last edited:
I think my favorite themes from cllassic doctor who that weren't really shown much but exist is, keff mcculloch's Latin doctor who theme (briefly used during its 30th anniversary and vhs specific doctor compilation tapes
Or the Delaware theme
 
Overly Serious said:
FWIW, Spotify now have a huge amount of the Big Finish Doctor Who catalogue available. It's not perfectly organised but if you know the one you want you should be able to find the "album" on there. Can't guarantee the BBC don't see some return on it though given the layers of Spotify and Big Finish whatever trickles through to them is probably small.


Although Davidson never got the backlash that Six did and therefore doesn't require the opportunity for redemption Colin Baker did, I'd say he also benefits from Big Finish and some of his best work is actually on the audios. King Maker is widely considered one of the best Big Finish audios and for good reason. If you want Five, Peri and Erimem (an audio-only companion) doing a Classic era comedy, it's well-worth a listen.

On another topic, who do people think was the companion who got the worst deal? And I mean how they were treated by events / the Doctor so no nominating Teegan for being Australian or Adric for being Adric. It's not a worst companion question, it's a worst treated. Donna Noble would be a contender for me - losing all her memories and being reverted to the person she was before she met the Doctor seemed particularly cruel. Peri having her brain replaced by an alien slug's also pretty horrible - though whether that actually happened or not is debatable. Just a bit of a question that occurred to me recently.
Click to expand...
Definitely Donna because after spending years of her life not remembering the Doctor, she had to give birth to a tranny mutt. I'd kill myself if I were in her shoes.
 
Agreeing about Donna, but Martha got the short end of the stick as well. A fine medical student, having her life upended to always be the one who isn't quite good enough simply because she isn't Saint Rose. And of all the times and places the Doctor could have hidden in in "Family of Blood", he picks one where she is treated like dirt and has an affair with a woman that can't hold a candle to Martha (that nurse was unattractive and bigoted) right under her nose. And then she gets paired up with Mickey (another one of Rose's leftovers) out of the blue.
 
The Invisible Enemy is one of the dumbest 4th Doctor episodes I can recall, because it has three pulpy high-concept science fiction tropes thrown in whose depictions are laughable and whose implications are viciously ignored. We've got intelligent viruses, shrink rays, teletransporter-style cloning, and this culminates in a virus-fighting trip by said shrunken clones into The Doctor's body, which is all things considered remarkably accommodating, you can walk around in there on a cellular scale and it's all pressurized, oxygenated, and orientated for mechanically unassisted exploration! Also, the clones (of the Doc himself and Leela) die horribly. No one really mourns for them. Also the evil intelligent virus gets blown up to human scale when the shrink ray gets put on Wumbo mode and the Wumbo'd virus is able to locomote and shit, because I guess it's not a network of viruses or an emergent restructuring of the host organism's brain that brings about the viral intelligence, no, each cell-sized virus (clusters of viruses?) are in actuality clever little dudes who I presume pilot their hosts like a Mecha.
 
videos like this are fucking hilarious to look back on. the strawman daleks in it are literally right
literally all these fangirls said "we need a woman doctor. it's her turn!", then it comes out and they immediately stop watching until Tennant comes back, then dip after he leaves again. the chuds were right about the fake geek girl meme, these women became the most vocal minority just to ruin stuff

she deleted her twitter but her tumblr which is still semi-active hasnt mentioned doctor who since 2018 and she hasnt put out any video on it since this one. she literally can't apologize and say she was wrong or respond to the haters, because it's just a fact that jodie was shit and trying to say anything about it is pointless because the show is now so culturally irrelevant justifying yourself is like justifying your opinion on the Edison Frankenstein movie, it's THAT niche now

I tried to look up if she did a followup talking about the era, but literally all I got was these recently-defunct clickrags talking about this specific video. The astroturf for Jodie was so unreal, but the era was so bad the astroturf couldn't be maintained. This is nuts, because Doctor Who was a massive franchise almost on the level of a Hunger Games or early MCU and Jodie as the Doctor was able to destroy it so much so quickly it put it back into the kind of reputation it had in the 90s. Videos like this are like the video version of a tweet praising early season 8 episodes of GoT because Arya Stark got to kill the Night King. Idpol over storytelling

And there's a certain irony too to all the shitty lines from this and other parodies being outright cribbed by Chibnall. So now these people can't say "man Chibnall's writing is so ass" without admitting he's writing on their level
 
One thing that turned me off about Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor is how she was written like a sexless grandma.

A female Doctor was already a tough sell, but why kill all the sex appeal? Some guys find Jodie hot—not me.To each their own, I guess.

I had a blast watching Missy’s antics. The Master woke up as a woman and just owned it with swagger. Dam I am embarrassed to admit it, but I found Michelle Gomez hot despite her being an older mature women, and the whole Mary Poppins deal.

But Jodie’s Doctor? It felt like a big middle finger to men. She wore baggy, plain clothes to hide her body, looking as plain as possible, and she had the personality of a Sesame Street guest star. They made her as unappealing to men as they could, and this is the nicest thing I will say about Chibnall, he nailed it. He somehow managed to make Jodie, an above average looking British woman, sexless and boring.
 
thebigbean said:
One thing that turned me off about Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor is how she was written like a sexless grandma.

A female Doctor was already a tough sell, but why kill all the sex appeal? Some guys find Jodie hot—not me.To each their own, I guess.

I had a blast watching Missy’s antics. The Master woke up as a woman and just owned it with swagger. Dam I am embarrassed to admit it, but I found Michelle Gomez hot despite her being an older mature women, and the whole Mary Poppins deal.

But Jodie’s Doctor? It felt like a big middle finger to men. She wore baggy, plain clothes to hide her body, looking as plain as possible, and she had the personality of a Sesame Street guest star. They made her as unappealing to men as they could, and this is the nicest thing I will say about Chibnall, he nailed it. He somehow managed to make Jodie, an above average looking British woman, sexless and boring.
Click to expand...
I agree. Michelle Gomez is the epitome of a hag, love her. Jodie's a cutie but they wanted to "avert the male gaze" even tho every Doctor before her had shirtless scenes and sex appeal since McGann except for maybe Capaldi?
 
BetterFuckChuck said:
I agree. Michelle Gomez is the epitome of a hag, love her. Jodie's a cutie but they wanted to "avert the male gaze" even tho every Doctor before her had shirtless scenes and sex appeal since McGann except for maybe Capaldi?
Click to expand...
I'll take the opposite tack: on retrospect it is bizarre and unsettling just how much NuWho played into the romance, and though Capaldi's writing was shit at least his era returned the Doctor to a quirky sexless grandpa professor sort of figure. I don't want to coom to the Doctor and I'm unnerved that that may be part of what drove female fascination with NuWho prior to Capaldi and then Jodi's run.
 
I know some people prefer the absence of romance in Doctor Who, like in the classic series, and I guess that's fair. Not having romance makes sense in a way.

However, I do raise an eyebrow when Ncuti Gatwa's Doctor is allowed to be overtly sexual with a gay love interest, while the female Doctor was portrayed as plainly as possible. To me, removing romance entirely from the show, which is what some classic Who fans want, is not the same as actively trying to give the middle finger to viewers. Or maybe it's just me?

New Who currently isn't opposed to romance so much as it's opposed to make men, God forbid, be atracted to atractive women?
 
crowabunga said:
I'll take the opposite tack: on retrospect it is bizarre and unsettling just how much NuWho played into the romance, and though Capaldi's writing was shit at least his era returned the Doctor to a quirky sexless grandpa professor sort of figure. I don't want to coom to the Doctor and I'm unnerved that that may be part of what drove female fascination with NuWho prior to Capaldi and then Jodi's run.
Click to expand...
NuWho built a rabid female audience on non-threatening British twinks with an air of mystery. Every chunky woman from the 2000s ate that shit up. Look at how rabid Tumblr was during that era. It was shipping psychosis. See also Supernatural and Sherlock to see how insane it was. Once Capaldi came in, the women were out. Except the lesbians, the lesbians love Capaldi. I'm not sure why.

With Jodi what they forgot about getting the shippers in, is that it still has have the performative roles of a heterosexual relationship. Jodi's run hinted at the lesbian thing, but with Jodi being a blob, the shippers were not biting. One has to be masculine and be a male character played by a woman. The other has to be feminine. If it does not have those traditional heteronormative roles, then the shippers will not be interested. If Jodi was butch, and Yaz was fem. The shippers would have gone wild. They would still be frothing at the mouth to this day.

With Gatwa, the shippers are afraid of black men and are turned off by effeminate men. They might have gotten something going if Gatwa was less swishy, more stoic and in command and they paired him with a Ben Whitshaw type. Which is the type of Male/Male ship the fujos go nuts over.

The other side of the fanbase was guys who like soft scifi morality tales and monster of the week adventure stories. The two sides of the fandom were so completely different and so far apart. It was only a matter of time until it all fell apart and completely exploded. If they went the safe route and catered to the old dude scifi audience, the show would have limped along and would still be airing. Instead they drove it off a cliff and it is dead, dead at this point.

Thank you for coming to my autistic TED Talk about the insane habits of shippers.
 
I think that the formula the fangirls wanted was an attractive straight man to faun over and an attractive straight woman to self insert as, even better if she's plain like Rose. They demanded non-white, non-straight companions like Bill but then didn't care and then they demanded a woman Doctor and didn't care. Their demands are unserious, they liked Doctor Who for one specific reason and tried to crowbar their political views in convincing themselves that they liked Doctor Who for its writing and not for the escapist qualities. The only Doctors they like from classic are Davison and McGann, not McCoy, Hartnell or Pertwee, hell they like Troughton because in reality he's handsome and just uglied himself up for the cameras and Jamie was cute too. They tried to look for the aspects of NuWho they liked in Classic. They made rationalizations that they DID like classic because "oh it's the Doctor when he was young and brash", trying to find easter eggs they can relate to NuWho, but no if the show just became a factory farm of mid Brit girls and hot twinks they'd be back to watching it tomorrow even if it removes all the LGBT stuff
 
I never really liked the romance between Rose and Nine or Ten. It felt forced to me. And then, as I've said previously Martha was so in lurve and pining all over him. Never felt the Riversong/Doctor romance either. Not because of the age gap, just never liked the character because she showed up and out Doctor'd the Doctor. Every time she showed up I found myself turning off the tv and just never coming back. watched the 50th special with my dad but never really came back. Thought Jenna/Eleven could have worked, they would have been an age appropriate romance (Going by the actors ages not the characters lives).

I miss Torchwood. It was supposed to be the more adult version of the show. And sure by the end everyone was gay by the end (Which at the time was "shocking" I guess) and I'm admittedly not gay outside of The Farms, but I think did romance and gayness better on Torchwood.

Speaking of Captain Jack, if Rose is actually the new Doctor, Captain Jack as her companion or riot.
 
thebigbean said:
I know some people prefer the absence of romance in Doctor Who, like in the classic series, and I guess that's fair. Not having romance makes sense in a way.
Click to expand...
The Doctor can't have a relationship with a human in any reasonable way. One of the reasons he changes companions so much is because he's so old he struggles to see the world for what it is any more. He's addicted to the rush of other people's excitement and that makes for a bad relationship set up.
OutInTheRain said:
NuWho built a rabid female audience on non-threatening British twinks with an air of mystery.
Click to expand...
Wrong. Nu Who's popularity started with 9. Tennant pushed it to it's peak with them but 9 and Rose were the rise of Nu Who.
OutInTheRain said:
The other side of the fanbase was guys who like soft scifi morality tales and monster of the week adventure stories. The two sides of the fandom were so completely different and so far apart. It was only a matter of time until it all fell apart and completely exploded. If they went the safe route and catered to the old dude scifi audience, the show would have limped along and would still be airing. Instead they drove it off a cliff and it is dead, dead at this point.
Click to expand...
Don't forget children. Doctor who was huge with kids during the era.
BetterFuckChuck said:
I think that the formula the fangirls wanted was an attractive straight man to faun over and an attractive straight woman to self insert as, even better if she's plain like Rose.
Click to expand...
They wanted a love triangle like women do in everything. Nu Who used Jack as the love triangle where the fags could ship them.
12345 said:
Speaking of Captain Jack, if Rose is actually the new Doctor, Captain Jack as her companion or riot.
Click to expand...
Do you like sucking dick? Who the fuck wants Dr Who to be another gay drama with sex pests and ugly plastic surgery goblins?

The best thing the series can do now is fuck off for 5 years then put out another movie like 7 got to feel out the mood. A brand new doctor who discards all the baggage of this era and starts fresh entirely. The best thing they can do is do a full soft reboot where the Doctor regenerates as the opening (don't show the previous form) and it's revealed there was another major time event or he lost to a bigger bad who reset time. His entire history is now gone, everything he knew never happened and he's in an entirely new universe. All the modern garbage is discarded. All the old legacy stuff remains legacy (but respectfully so) and now you have a new Doctor dealing with a new place where being a Time Lord is something strange again.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
The Doctor can't have a relationship with a human in any reasonable way
Click to expand...

Hot take: I've never bought the arguments trying to justify the Doctor being celibate with lore or claiming humans are too insignificant for him or whatever. All time lords, including him, are more human than they would like to admit.

Before you grab your pitchforks, hear me out. I think it's valid to want Doctor Who to focus only on adventures, like in the classic series, without the Doctor being entangled in romance. Hell that might even be for the best. Anything is better than the mess the show is in.

But Instead of pretending a human couldn't possibly date the Doctor ( a time lord is not even the weirdest thing a human has dated in fiction) or that he's too ancient and galaxy-brained to understand romance, I find it more honest to say: "I don't want romance in my British sci-fi show. Let's keep the focus on adventures."
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom