Dragon Ball Thread - RIP Akira Toriyama

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Bloodrage said:
There's a GT manga?
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Yes, but those are called anime comic, that is taking anime and organizing it as manga using screenshots.

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Every Dragon Ball film and special has a anime comic version, this page is one example of one arm Gohan from the special fighting against the androids.

However this one isn't this. We need to go back to China in the 90s where Dragon Ball was popular so they decided to make a manga version (manhua) of GT. Sometimes using the poses of original manga and the anime as reference. But they did indeed make a "manga" that is actually a pirated version, not even doujinshi of it. They adapt the story up to Baby arc in 20 volumes, but the English translation isn't there yet.

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Which is funny because it isn't even the first time the Chinese took anime original stuff and created an entire manga based of it. It is so fucking cool.
 
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Bloodrage said:
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It's actually impressive how fast the fan artists get shit done
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>Rom
Guy's a pedophile (Jap) sadly. I wanted to see more of his serious art as he's pretty talented and got Final Flash-banged with a concerning amount of Pan hentai.
Turbo Sped said:
That was the anime version of the character - the cooler one. The manga version of the character was a complete bitch who flips out whenever things didn't go his way, and didn't even fight Goku as himself. He was essentially just Supreme Kai version of Captain Ginyu.
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It sucks because you'd think he'd be just as much of a menace as his anime version, if not more. But nope! Toyotarou is boring and creatively bankrupt.
This shortexplains it pretty well, made by the guy who shat all over that Goten Black video:
 
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Turbo Sped said:
That was the anime version of the character - the cooler one. The manga version of the character was a complete bitch who flips out whenever things didn't go his way, and didn't even fight Goku as himself. He was essentially just Supreme Kai version of Captain Ginyu.

This is, apparently, the version this Super remake is apparently going with. The only good thing about the manga version is that they gave out a pretty good explanation for Goku Black getting a Super Saiyan Rose.

The ending was still pretty much the same. Zeno destroying Trunks universe, but with a bunch of Merged Zamasu clones running away.

Everything else was just straight garbage. The anime version of the saga, despite its flaws, had a better story than the manga one. At least Goku Black was interesting in the anime and Trunks actually got to do something in an arc which was about saving HIS world.

I kinda hope that the remake wanting the Goku Black arc to be closer to the manga version is not true. They can take some parts that worked, but just keep the entire story like how the anime told it.

But more importantly, they need to fix the ending and have Trunks actually train a little to explain the shit he was able to do in the anime.
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The manga isn't taking over the anime, the major anime/movie story beats are still there (like Goku fighting Beerus as a regular Super Saiyan after absorbing part of the Super Saiyan God's power into his body, a extremely important thing that didn't happen in the manga) at most you'll get a few extra scenes with manga references like Goku's mental training or Goku Black using Black Bind, nothing too crazy (which is why I'm excited for this anime remake/remaster, it'll fix the biggest gripe I have with DBS without using the extremely lame manga plot/subplots).
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Gay Sex Enjoyer said:
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IIRC, Beerus was based on a cat Toriyama had. Gotta admit, making your pet into the strongest enemy yet is a cool move.
Setzer Gabbiani said:
I still remember how pissed I was at the theater when they did the whole 'he never built up his stamina to use his new form' shit. So he didn't learn anything from Namek? Not to mention him being retarded enough to think Vegeta wouldn't be as strong as Goku..
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The entire idea of Freeza never training in his life is so weird, then how does he know how to use ki? I can understand not being an expert, but seemingly the only people in universe 7 who know the basics of feeling ki without a scouter live on the same planet.

Setzer Gabbiani said:
Then there's the Time Rewind...fuck I hate this fucking movie.
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It removes so much of the tension, sure, I don't expect DB to have huge stakes and people die for real, but if Whis can just rewind time, and we know he does interfere on his own way even if he is supposed to be neutral, this mean at no moment you will feel any tension on battles, if they lose to lets say, Moro or Broly, Whis is a living plot device stronger than the dragon balls.
 
winderson_silva said:
It removes so much of the tension, sure, I don't expect DB to have huge stakes and people die for real, but if Whis can just rewind time, and we know he does interfere on his own way even if he is supposed to be neutral, this mean at no moment you will feel any tension on battles, if they lose to lets say, Moro or Broly, Whis is a living plot device stronger than the dragon balls.
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Now I just remembered how ridiculous that fight with Golden Frieza was even more since, even though he got waaaaaayyy stronger than before, he has two dudes hanging out on the sidelines who are on a tier beyond anything he or the rest of the gang could reach. Beerus even said he would kill Frieza if he got his parfait dirty and Frieza looked like he was about to shit Namekian Dragonballs.
 
Again, not that I expect someone to die for real (especially since Toyotaro decided to revive Merus later ), but come on, now there isn't even a "Well, now we need the Dragon Balls", Beerus can beat whoever they are fighting and Whis can rewind time, anytime they are around, even if they arent fighting, they are an "I win" button that is only mediated by the fact Beerus' life depends on a dude infinitely weaker being alive.
 
We got yet another example of Geekdom dealing with retards.....and somehow looking far more retarded by simply just talking too much.

Geekdom was arguing about Dragon Ball canon with some retard on twitter who said the Battle of God's movie was canon to Z and GT. There's a whole bunch of tweets that I don't even feel like presenting because it detracts from the main subject, but Geekdom was doing okay.

Granted, we can call upon the hypocrisy of a man who whines about people caring about canon but still want Daima to be connected to Super, but I digress

This is where it truly started.

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He was called "a fake DB fan", which he claimed to find "particularly hilarious". And the following posts are about to showcase just how much he was laughing over this.

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And then, he went further beyond.

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So what did we learn today, folks? When you made your point in a twitter argument, you let it go.
 
winderson_silva said:
The entire idea of Freeza never training in his life is so weird, then how does he know how to use ki? I can understand not being an expert, but seemingly the only people in universe 7 who know the basics of feeling ki without a scouter live on the same planet.
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Considering he's able to use psychic levitation with sheer power without the emission of energy beams, maybe his understanding of it is 'something my body can do by default' with only as much education as he needed to learn how to do it. They're called mutants, anyway, with unusual power levels.

I guess it's like if you could somehow fire your blood from your body as a concentrated beam. Sure, you may feel something as you run out of it, but you can't gauge exactly how much blood your body has at all times. Maybe in-universe alien 'ki' is like that, energy produced by an organ in their bodies that has a similar wavelength to human ki that means it can be detected. Or maybe it's just that Freeza neither needed to nor felt like exerting himself to test out his power, after being told he had about so much power and needed to use the suppressed forms so he could stay at 530k and not blow up every scouter in the fleet.
 
Gay Sex Enjoyer said:
How does someone even come to this conclusion

GT takes place 11 years later and nothing introduced in BOG exists in GT
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Because instead of Goku, it was Emperor Pilaf, Mai, and Shu who got reverted back to being children prior to the movie. So apparently that means GT could've been canon.
 
Turbo Sped said:
We got yet another example of Geekdom dealing with retards.....and somehow looking far more retarded by simply just talking too much.

Geekdom was arguing about Dragon Ball canon with some retard on twitter who said the Battle of God's movie was canon to Z and GT. There's a whole bunch of tweets that I don't even feel like presenting because it detracts from the main subject, but Geekdom was doing okay.

Granted, we can call upon the hypocrisy of a man who whines about people caring about canon but still want Daima to be connected to Super, but I digress

This is where it truly started.

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He was called "a fake DB fan", which he claimed to find "particularly hilarious". And the following posts are about to showcase just how much he was laughing over this.

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And then, he went further beyond.

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So what did we learn today, folks? When you made your point in a twitter argument, you let it go.
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Every time I see Geekdom lately, he just looks more worn down. It’s kinda noticeable compared to how he used to be.
 
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