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Apparently since this is the day weed became legal recreationally in my state, the dispensaries have big sales going on.
I haven't smoked in a while, and I picked up some nuclear grade prerolls and a ton of flower.
The flower is for later, but that infused preroll is for tonight. My boyfriend is going to watch me melt and run down the damn drain, it'll be a nice night.

UPDATE: Bro this is that nuclear grade shit. This is that Bin Laden weed.
 
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Saw someone in another thread saying they can't really get behind or believe in God and envy the religious for that ability, been giving that some thought. Not sober thought, mind, I gotta get toasted before I ponder this stuff. That's why I'm posting it here.

I'm not sure if I believe in the God of Abraham literally as presented but I find the concept of the divine clockwork useful and interesting. The universe is a precise and careful arrangement of moving pieces all twisting against each other and jostling around such that to any one piece looking out it all appears a chaotic jumble of random garbage, but it all moves in perfect harmony. Most pieces simply exist within the machine, living and dying and doing their part without complaint, creating their own replacements before they are eventually destroyed and removed, their component materials going on into the creation of other new moving pieces. God is the collection of omnipotent unseen forces that wind the springs and set the gears in motion, and he needn't interfere once they're in place because, omniscient as he is, he knows how they're going to spin down before they ever start.
In attaining knowledge of good and evil, in stealing some spark of divinity, man has stepped outside his role as a simple moving piece in that grand divine clockwork and gained freedom to fuck with the other pieces, to throw them out of place or stop up their movement, or indeed to make up new pieces from the material present, and set them in motion unaided. That would be fine if we were all as knowing and powerful and well-intentioned as God, but that is not the case. We are sinful and imperfect things. Our own designs behave poorly, because we make them so. They bite us in the ass whether by malicious design or accident of ignorance, and while God may not interfere in his own designs once set he can easily and will happily interfere with ours to prove a point, teach someone a lesson or punish the sinful.

To an extent it doesn't matter if it's literal or metaphor, God offers a set of rules that leads to maintenance of order, construction of good mechanisms and continued existence. The consequences for breaking these rules will be delivered through the machine by the moving pieces you can see around you. You may see that as him smiting you for your hubris, or simple cause and effect in the natural world. Does that make him more omniscient/omnipotent, or less? Idunno, I've sorta forgotten where I was going with this.
 
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That sounds like deism with extra steps, but I like the musing. I hate that science has "solved" the problem of why we exist by saying "we just exist, nobody and nothing MADE us we just came into being" when everything we see in this universe has a beginning somewhere. We trace our existence back to the Big Bang and that's that. We both can never know what happened before the Big Bang and we can never know what happens outside of the universe.

We are humans enclosed in an atmospheric world, enclosed in a solar system, enclosed into a galaxy, enclosed in a local group, enclosed in the visible universe, enclosed in the invisible universe, and people legitimately believe we are in a simulation which is just a modern belief that this life is not what it seems. It's not much of a stretch to likewise say we are enclosed in God, who creates and sustains the universe, visible and invisible. If fuckers are willing to believe in simulation theory that's just reducing God from all powerful creator to "nerd who can click Start on a virtual machine". It's just as "illogical" as belief in God and literally answers no more questions than believing God did it.

I don't know what's going on, but I do understand that I never will, and my experiences have helped me believe in God and choose God.

Oh also I'm almost constantly stoned. Not currently, though.
 
MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
That sounds like deism with extra steps, but I like the musing. I hate that science has "solved" the problem of why we exist by saying "we just exist, nobody and nothing MADE us we just came into being" when everything we see in this universe has a beginning somewhere. We trace our existence back to the Big Bang and that's that. We both can never know what happened before the Big Bang and we can never know what happens outside of the universe.

We are humans enclosed in an atmospheric world, enclosed in a solar system, enclosed into a galaxy, enclosed in a local group, enclosed in the visible universe, enclosed in the invisible universe, and people legitimately believe we are in a simulation which is just a modern belief that this life is not what it seems. It's not much of a stretch to likewise say we are enclosed in God, who creates and sustains the universe, visible and invisible. If fuckers are willing to believe in simulation theory that's just reducing God from all powerful creator to "nerd who can click Start on a virtual machine". It's just as "illogical" as belief in God and literally answers no more questions than believing God did it.

I don't know what's going on, but I do understand that I never will, and my experiences have helped me believe in God and choose God.

Oh also I'm almost constantly stoned. Not currently, though.
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I don't even think there's extra steps, I just described deism.
But I think to some extent it's a necessary cope for the rather glaring fact that most holy books were written a long time ago and we as a species have accumulated much knowledge since then. Like if a big comet fell out of the sky and obliterated a city the people in those times could fair well call it divine intervention, city must've been rife with sin and debauchery (aren't they all). Now you'd have NASA retards tracking its trajectory for months in advance, articles coming out saying this thing's been on our radar since 2003 and a real uphill battle to prove any recent sign of god's hand at play. If he was interfering he must've been interfering pretty much the whole time, in such fashion as to be indistinguishable from all previously observed natural phenomena... Which would make God some sorta personification of the sum total of the natural world? He's omnipotent and omniscient because He is all there is, it's all Him? Interference is constant and our observations of natural forces are simply reflective of that? Is that distinguishable from no interference at all?
 
I only say "deism with extra steps" as most deistic thought is that God set the universe in motion and then left it alone. If we are in God, and the natural forces we observe are the product of his direct intervention, that's way more involvement than simple deism. Catholics describe that as God's implicit or explicit will - things he allows to happen and things he makes happen, respectively.

Science has allowed us to be convinced we know enough to make a judgement. I don't personally believe we do, as knowledge and wisdom are not the same thing, and there are some highly educated idiots out there.

Edit: sorry I didn't reply properly, mobile/my current account status isn't letting me reply at the moment. Probably an anti-powerleveling move since my account is still fresh.
 
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drfuzzyballs said:
I have a wacky idea for schools: Have students do normal adult labor of some sort and grade them based only on how well they did the task.
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Vocation/technical schools work like this, there are some high school programs in the US where you can go learn welding, mechanics, auto body, computer stuff...would be sweet if they also did machining but I don't think they do most of the time.
 
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MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
Vocation/technical schools work like this, there are some high school programs in the US where you can go learn welding, mechanics, auto body, computer stuff...would be sweet if they also did machining but I don't think they do most of the time.
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I meant like cleaning tasks or something similar for younger kids to teach them a good work ethic.
 
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paperwork said:
my man. DXM is the best.
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I don't know if I could robotrip anymore. I mean, first off SSRI meds and DXM don't mix...but damn does it make me nauseous thinking about doing again. Usually I'd try to find just DXM syrup or capsules, but then I found Robocough and just typing that made me shudder lol the grape flavor is my worst enemy.

That said my first DXM+THC experience was pretty magical, I had a blackberry pearl at the time and typing on it felt reeeeally weird. I felt the keys physically, but mentally felt like my thumbs were climbing mountains.

It's a state I would reach where I felt "tinyhuge" like i was the size of the universe while also being a tiny floating nothingness at the same time. Probably on the cusp of ego death at that level, honestly.
 
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