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This is a cross post from the Lucy Letby tread. A British nurse that was convicted of murering 26 babies, in a case that's started to look a bit iffy once american journalists started covering it.

It's since been edited but the bits about 'conspiracy theorists' and 'internet slueths' and the inferance that the experts weren't been trusted remains.


Someone on twitter did a nice comparison of the Wikipedia entry on letby which is based on the court record and the details given in the article.

Here's one example
The wikipedia entry.

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Here's the article version of what happened.
young chestnut said:
Several days later, a woman came to the hospital after her water broke. She was sent home and told to wait. More than twenty-four hours later, she noticed that the baby was making fewer movements inside her. “I was concerned for infection because I hadn’t been given any antibiotics,” she said later. She returned to the hospital, but she still wasn’t given antibiotics. She felt “forgotten by the staff, really,” she said. Sixty hours after her water broke, she had a C-section. The baby, a girl who was dusky and limp when she was born, should have been treated with antibiotics immediately, doctors later acknowledged, but nearly four hours passed before she was given the medication. The next night, the baby’s oxygen alarm went off. “Called Staff Nurse Letby to help,” a nurse wrote. The baby continued to deteriorate throughout the night and could not be revived. A pathologist found pneumonia in the baby’s lungs and wrote that the infection was likely present at birth.
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Again example
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What actually happened.
young chestnut said:
First, a woman with antiphospholipid syndrome, a rare disorder that can cause blood clotting, was admitted to the hospital. She was thirty-one weeks pregnant with twins, and had planned to give birth in London, so that a specialist could monitor her and the babies, but her blood pressure had quickly risen, and she had to have an emergency C-section at the Countess. The next day, Letby was asked to cover a colleague’s night shift. She was assigned one of the twins, a boy, who has been called Child A. (The court order forbade identifying the children, their parents, and some nurses and doctors.) A nursing note from the day shift said that the baby had had “no fluids running for a couple of hours,” because his umbilical catheter, a tube that delivers fluids through the abdomen, had twice been placed in the wrong position, and “doctors busy.” A junior doctor eventually put in a longline, a thin tube threaded through a vein, and Letby and another nurse gave the child fluid. Twenty minutes later, Letby and a third nurse, a few feet away, noticed that his oxygen levels were dropping and that his skin was mottled. The doctor who had inserted the longline worried that he had placed it too close to the child’s heart, and he immediately took it out. But, less than ninety minutes after Letby started her shift, the baby was dead. “It was awful,” she wrote to a colleague afterward. “He died very suddenly and unexpectedly just after handover
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This is what Letby's fucking Barrister had to say in court. This is the quality of legal representation she had, this guy never even tried for an acquital.
young chestnut said:
Myers told the jury, “It’s important I make it plain that in no way is this case about the N.H.S. in general.” He assured the jury, “We all feel strongly about the N.H.S. and we are protective of it.”
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Wikipedia jannies are busy

This is from the talk page


An improvement to the first paragraph (made by another verified user, not me) was reverted by user cwmxii, and their explanation was the following:

This is giving unnecessary ground to the conspiracy theorists and truthers who've infested this article in the last few days, sorry.

This is an incredibly inappropriate explanation for a Wikipedia edit. This user did not dispute the reliability of the edit, the cited material, the prior explanation for the edit, or the importance of the edit. Their only explanation is that it "gives ground" to people that the user has baselessly deemed conspiracy theorists.

This is not the first time this has occurred. As a result, the opening section of the article is inaccurate. It is written as if there is no controversy whatsoever about the case which is not true, it inaccurately summarizes the facts about the shift schedule, and there is emotional writing rather than facts based writing. For example, the user deleted the phrase "who was convicted of murdering" and changed it to "who murdered" because it did not fit with their sensibilities, even though the prior version was factual, did not question the verdict, and actually was more informative (she was convicted by a jury for multiple murders, which is more specific than the more vague phrase "who murdered").
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From what I know of this case this woman 100% killed those babies but the entire British Establishment was fucking shitting itself over it because they worship the NHS worse than Americans worship niggers. It's the one thing they are allowed to be patriotic about, the only thing they desperatly hang on as a sign they are "better" than others, and it has been going downhill for decades at this point.

They were far more interested in washing the NHS of any possible blame than they were justice for the murdered kids. Just like they were far more worried about keeping the borders open for infinity pakis than they were stopping the rape gangs of muslims.
 
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Texas Governor Greg Abbott recently pardoned Daniel Perry, who had been convicted of murder for shooting Black Lives Matter protestor Garrett Foster despite claiming self-defense. The Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles had unanimously recommended the pardon after reviewing the case and concluding that the shooting was indeed in self-defense.

Left-wing forums are apoplectic, and this includes Wikipedia. One Wikipedia editor reasonably suggested that the article (currently at "Murder of Garrett Foster") be moved to "Killing of Garrett Foster" now that the murder conviction is vacated. The vote is ongoing, with so far all other editors opposing it:
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The article itself is full of smears. For example, this paragraph is in the intro:
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Perry's "self-identifying" as a racist was clearly sarcastic, as can be seen by reading the context. And he had said that BLM rioters were "acting like monkeys"; Wikipedia is trying to make it sound like a racist characterization specifically of blacks. It's little bits of spin like this that Wikipedia, like the media, relies on to build a completely false narrative.

The infobox says it was a "vehicle-ramming attack" (it wasn't), and the category "Vehicular rampage in the United States" is used.

Between the above imputations of racism and the article being in the categories "Racially motivated violence in the United States" and "Anti-black racism in Texas" you might be led to think that the person shot, Garrett Foster, was black. There is no photo in the article, rather conveniently. In fact Foster was white. Perry by the way is Jewish.

As for whether Perry is guilty or not, well, I haven't studied the case as closely as either the jury or the Board. But one thing that's clear is that to Wikipedia it's not about the truth but about making their perceived enemies look as bad as possible.

Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Garrett_Foster
 
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I'm hearing from a couple of friends the current Wikipedo large scale flame war is the page for Yasuke after the trailer for the certainly mediocre next Assassins Creed. This is all in the span of six hours:
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Some choice selections:
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This "theozilla" character types like a fag, and his shits probably retarded.
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I looked him up and has a twitter account. No surprise he's a fag. That Anzu fellow also is a fag who edits Bulbapedo.
 
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This is almost worthy of its own thread:




It has all of the hallmarks of truly lulzy internet drama: Wikipedia, Reddit, Jews, Muslims, autistic neckbeards, and leftist infighting. Enjoy.

To go with it, one from last year that may or may not have already been posted here:

 
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TheySeeMeRowlin said:
This is almost worthy of its own thread:




It has all of the hallmarks of truly lulzy internet drama: Wikipedia, Reddit, Jews, Muslims, autistic neckbeards, and leftist infighting. Enjoy.

To go with it, one from last year that may or may not have already been posted here:

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https://ghostarchive.org/archive/hKPhf - archive of OP's userpage, the hasbarabots are in overdrive.

To our dismay, we found dozens of examples of Holocaust distortion which, taken together, advanced a Polish nationalist narrative, whitewashed the role of Polish society in the Holocaust and bolstered harmful stereotypes about Jews.

People who read these pages learned about Jews’ supposed complicity in their own catastrophe, gangs of Jewish collaborators aiding the Gestapo and Jews supporting the communists to betray Poles. A handful of distortions have been corrected since our publication, but many remain.

A fraction of it is true: There were scattered instances of Jewish collaboration in WWII, for example. But Wikipedia inflates their scale and prominence. In one article that remains gravely distorted, alleged Jewish collaboration with the Nazis takes up more space than the Ukrainian, Belorussian and ethnic German collaboration combined.

These few editors, with no evident ties to any government, sport playful pseudonyms, such as “Piotrus” (Little Peter in Polish) or “Volunteer Marek.” But they are a resilient team whose seniority and prolific editing across the encyclopedia give them high status in Wikipedia’s editorial community. Methodically and patiently, they go from article to article, removing and adding content until it aligns with a Polish nationalist worldview. They misrepresent sources, use unreliable sources, and push fringe points of view.
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The Jewish hatred of Poles is really bizarre, I remember recently Israelis complained about Polish veteran memorial event because supposedly the soldiers being commemorated were antisemitic or something. Poland saved more Jews than anyone, they must be really content in their decision right now. Fun fact: A Polish Jewish communist Salomon Morel ran a death camp for poles, and Israel gave him a refuge when communism collapsed and refused to extradite him because "he's too old". Someone explain what the Poles ever did to the Jews to deserve this maltreatment.
 
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glue eater said:
Someone explain what the Poles ever did to the Jews to deserve this maltreatment.
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https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-Cossacks (Starts about 1/4th of the way down)

Tl;Dr Polish were pretty ok with jews but they also liked using them as bankers and shit like everyone in Europe. When the Ruthenian Cossaks (proto-Ukrainians) rose up in a revolt they went around killing all the rent collectors for the Commonwealth in the area, which were almost all jews. Poland didn't care much because why would you but of course the Jews kvetched about it something fierce.

Fun fact: it has been proven that they also lied about the numbers. For a long time they would throw around numbers like 300 to 500 thousand jews killed. By the late 1970s it was 100 thousand "minimum" and after the fall of the Iron Curtain some Israeli jews more interested in honest history did a study and checked sources and concluded the actual number was aroun 18k to 20k, and the total jewish population of th Ruthenian area of the revolt of being around 50k. Ain't that funny?
 
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General Emílio Médici said:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-Cossacks (Starts about 1/4th of the way down)

Tl;Dr Polish were pretty ok with jews but they also liked using them as bankers and shit like everyone in Europe. When the Ruthenian Cossaks (proto-Ukrainians) rose up in a revolt they went around killing all the rent collectors for the Commonwealth in the area, which were almost all jews. Poland didn't care much because why would you but of course the Jews kvetched about it something fierce.

Fun fact: it has been proven that they also lied about the numbers. For a long time they would throw around numbers like 300 to 500 thousand jews killed. By the late 1970s it was 100 thousand "minimum" and after the fall of the Iron Curtain some Israeli jews more interested in honest history did a study and checked sources and concluded the actual number was aroun 18k to 20k, and the total jewish population of th Ruthenian area of the revolt of being around 50k. Ain't that funny?
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Also after WW2, the now commmie Polish government started confiscating property of dead Polish citizens who had no direct relations or were unable to claim it due to exile. Unsurpisingly, a lot of Jewish Poles who died in the camps had no living relatives, so by law, the property went to the government.

Also some shit about the Poles ratting on Jews during German-occupation or some shit, but the former is a serious part of a attempt by Israel to get gibsmedats from Poland.
 
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The jews like complaining about "muh shoa" with every nation in Europe but they never shit talk extremely rich jews who fled ahead of the 3rd Reich and didn't do shit to help their fellow jews.

As for the properties left behind, Poles also had their shit seized. Particularly egregious is how a bunch of jews keep trying and get it "back" after decades of not even caring about Poland only now that Polish real estate is worth something.

Might be that they are this butthurt because they never got to indoctrinate Poles into being complete shabbos goyim like they did with Germany due to them being behind the iron curtain.
 
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General Emílio Médici said:
The jews like complaining about "muh shoa" with every nation in Europe but they never shit talk extremely rich jews who fled ahead of the 3rd Reich and didn't do shit to help their fellow jews.
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Always cracks me up that the Nazis captured some members of the German branch of the Rothschild family and just ransomed them off once the family paid up a couple million, letting them leave with all their property they could carry. You'd think a family as wealthy and influential as the fucking Rothschild banking dynasty would cough up some cash to save their own. Hell the British branch were the ones who shilled hard for Zionism.
 
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