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LOL, the page for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms libels Lindsay Shepherd and cites the wikipedia page for Shepherd herself as a source to justify it.

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The socialist faction of the Nazi party was purged during the Night of Long Knives. Major Nazi figures like Ernst Rohm and Otto Strasser were socially right wing and economically leftwing. Rohm wanted to replace the army with a "peoples militia" and Strasser wanted central planning.

Hitler wanted to ally himself with the socially conservative army and thecorporations who wanted to keep their businesses. Hitler's political campaign had actually been bankrolled by corporations like Krupp Steel.

The Nazis still went through with alot of socialist programs despite their socialist purge. The Volkswagan (peoples car), public spending for community centers and free trade school programs for stuff like mechanical engineering and car repair. Oddly enough, mostly socialist stuff that would prove to be useful during the war itself.
 
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so I thought the directory of satanists editors might be a good place to find some dumb shit. effort post comin thru.

first off, wiki editor badges are extremely powerful autist bait. look at this dude
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imagine the hours spent making that. he must be some power user, right? no. literally all he's added to wikipedia is one photograph of a ford focus 😂
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up next, user Cparker introduces himself with his dox, a paragraph of all the stuff he's allergic to and his medications, and this-
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I feel like this isn't actually in sly cooper but idk, didn't play that one. the article Cparker has contributed most to is Will Smith's album, Lost and Found. thanks Cparker!

next bois, we got D-Tanked! look out, he's a communist satanist!
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what's this hard hitting nigga adding to wikipedia? nothing.

next user is Lemon Bay CCV. someone is calling them out on their talk page for impersonation and vandalizing a high school wiki page? not really sure what's going on here but it seems dumb so I'm including it.
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becoming a common theme, but user Venus Satanas' main contribution is similarly just talking about herself (though tbf she also edits stuff about greek mythology and the unincorporated town of Cassadaga FL). she links to her four separate websites, one of which declares she is “the internet celebrity, Venus Satanas – author, Satanist, and Witch.” always a sign of good mental health.

anyway that's all I got for now. it's all kind of mundane, not as good as that crack addict, but idk. the site is just so buried in dumb shit, it's all amusing to me.
 
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here is a good article about a former admin and current editor who is probably a dangerous pedophile, harasses underage users across several social media sites and has a fixation with murdered girls. worth the read.
Wikipedia editor Paul Benjamin Austin has had an account since 2002, but started editing in 2001, before most people had even heard of Wikipedia. Back then he was known as PMelvilleAustin or PMA (for Paul Melville Austin). He was an admin, but resigned – twice. Looking over his many contributions, it isn’t hard to spot some of his interests: Dr. Who, Enid Blyton, children’s television programs, child actresses, and, most especially, murdered girls.

There is (apparently) nothing wrong with being very, very interested in little girls on Wikipedia, but Paul Austin seems to have engaged in some disturbing behaviour outside of Wikipedia too.

Online community warnings
In March of 2010, a blogger posted a warning to the Dreamwidth and LiveJournal communities about a troll identified as Paul Melville Austin (and a long list of other names, including Paul Benjamin Austin).

He has several behaviors, and a general pattern by which you can identify him:

  • He contacts users via email, IM’s or private messages.
  • He usually presents himself as either a young woman (generally using a stolen icon) or as an older, disabled man.
  • He frequently changes his name with each contact.
  • He will generally start out saying something like “can I talk to you?”
  • He then launches into a story of abuse.
  • Sometimes the abuse will be sexual and sometimes it is disability-related, with either a sexual or humiliation component. The specific details vary from contact to contact.
  • He will often express gender identity confusion and/or dating problems.
  • He is interested in alternate history and fandom and will sometimes try to use this to get close to his new target.
  • He often sets off the “squick-o-meter” when conversing with people. You may get a feeling that there is something Not Quite Right.
  • On some occasions he has continued communication, even after being asked to stop.
The warning came after “years” of this kind of activity being observed. In August 2011, the warning was reposted on another blog because Austin was still doing it. And perhaps even escalating it, since the post notes that “he has contacted bloggers well known to be minors via email and/or chat.” It comes up twice again in 2012, again in 2014, and in 2018. If you read the comments in these various postings, it becomes clear that this has been going on since 2008 (if not before) and has continued unabated.

So… Paul Melville Austin, internet troll and harasser, has been plaguing online communities by pretending to be sexually-abused girls or intersex persons. He has knowingly targeted victims of sexual abuse. He has engaged users and unexpectedly turned conversations to sexual topics. He has contacted people known to be minors. Obviously not the kind of person who should be participating in a collaborative project through which he might potentially work with minors and other vulnerable individuals. But is the internet troll really the same person as the Wikipedia editor?

Connecting the dots
In August 2008, Paul Benjamin Austin added two now-deleted images to his user page. The file names were “Paul intensive care 1980” and “Paul chest surgery 1983”. In September 2008, Paul Benjamin Austin (then known as PabsP from a recent name change) posted on his talk page that his identity had been stolen: “I have been informed that some Kaycee Nicole-type person stole my online identity. I am not that person.” This likely relates to an incident referred to in the first community warning post: “In August 2008 he posed as a High School student called Marta who was a survivor of sexual abuse.”

In a 2010 discussion about internet harasser Paul Melville Austin at a Dr. Who-related blog, commenter “Paul” states, “Lauredhel isn’t all that smart by the way – she thought my disability was fake even after i posted photographic proof to my Wikipedia page.” It seems clear enough he is referencing the images on Paul Benjamin Austin’s user page. But there is also a much more telling statement:

As i said i only pretend to have stuff becase im lonely and sympathy and attention eases that lonliness – whenever I try to stop the lonliness builds up again and i start up again
Ive been doing it since i was being bullied in high school

According to an older version of the user page, Austin states that he has “cerebral palsy and am also blinded in [my] left eye. I also have repaired esophageal atresia and Asperger’s syndrome.” On an Australian children’s version of Wikipedia, he says, “I suffer from mild cerebral palsy which leaves me with a weakened and partly paralysed left side and i also have Asperger’s Syndrome which makes life even harder for me.”

These claims may be true, but they may instead be part of a cynical charade used to gain sympathy and attention. In 2013, he apparently emailed a Wikipedia user because “I suffer a lot cause of a genetic disease and its effects on my body. It’s a feminizing disease and people think its ok to say i look like various modern and classic female sex symbols, I just wanted someone to talk to that wouldn’t compare me to a female Hollywood pin-up”. In 2018, he made a similar comment: “Looking like i do, i get a hell of a lot of attention. Not easy looking like one gender thing when you identify as the other.” Based on (now-deleted) images uploaded by Austin, there is simply no chance he could be mistaken for a female sex symbol, but the pattern is consistent with the modus operandi of many internet trolls. (It also seems at odds with his 2016 claim that “I’m a trans man.”)

Impersonating child actresses
Child actress Miranda Borman had a minor part in the Dr. Who story “Dragonfire.” It is relevant to note that she was a child of 5 or 6 at the time, and her underwear was apparently visible in a scene. In April 2012, a member of a Star Trek fan site announced in a subforum devoted to Dr. Who that he had been contacted by Miranda Borman. The user, 23skidoo, was at that time a Wikipedia administrator and had been contacted through Wikipedia. Other members of the forum quickly decided it was not really Borman that 23skidoo had interviewed. Josiah Rowe, another member who was a Wikipedia admin, had also been contacted through Wikipedia.

Meanwhile, back on Wikipedia, editor and administrator The JPS posted a warning on the Dragonfire episode’s talk page that a “hoaxer” had contacted him pretending to be Miranda Borman. Fellow admin Redrose64 replied that he too had been contacted. In fact, an editor going by the username “Miranda Borman” had already fooled editor DavidFarmbrough. The account’s one edit to the Dragonfire article seems to encapsulate most of the internet troll’s very specific interests. Paul Benjamin Austin later created the Miranda Borman Wikipedia article, about six months after this incident.

There are also numerous Facebook accounts which appear to be connected to Paul Benjamin Austin. Nearly all of them feature profile pictures of young girls, often dead child actresses. Right now, one of Paul Benjamin Austin’s active Facebook accounts has a profile picture of murdered child actress Judith Barsi. Paul Benjamin Austin is the second most frequent editor of the Wikipedia article about Barsi, with 102 edits. (We suspect someone will be reporting those accounts to Facebook soon…)

Judging by all this, it’s practically certain that the Paul Benjamin Austin on Wikipedia is the same individual who’s been trolling various internet fan forums and other social-media sites for nearly 20 years. And while most people who edit Wikipedia are boringly ordinary people, Wikipedia is hardly immune from the problems most large interactive websites face – which means that a few editors (admittedly, we don’t know the exact percentage) are actually disturbed, potentially dangerous individuals.

Paul Benjamin Austin appears to be one of them.
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there's also a follow up article, wikipedia's trust an safety board responded to their filed complaint by somehow investigating the wrong person.
About a week ago, we put up a blog post about Paul Benjamin Austin, a particularly creepy Wikipedia editor. If you were wondering why someone here didn’t just report him to the Wikimedia Foundation’s Trust & Safety department, it’s because we knew someone already had. You’re about to learn just how incompetent that group was in handling the complaint.

The person who brought Paul Benjamin Austin to our attention complained to Trust & Safety about Paul Benjamin Austin. “Senior Trust and Safety Specialist” Kalliope Tsouroupidou handled the case. Her email response reads as follows:
Thank you for reaching out to the Trust & Safety team.
We have taken a look at the concerns you have raised, though this doesn’t look like a situation that T&S may be able to act on at this time. Office actions [1] tend to be considered when the local communities have already exhausted all their options in handling a situation. After a quick look I see that the community has been able to handle this [2] so far, so we would not like to usurp their autonomy in continuing to do so.
Should this cause on-wiki issues that the community is unable to handle, we will be happy to consider a conduct investigation on our end.
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While it is reassuring to know that Trust and Safety would prefer not to usurp the community’s authority, it must be pointed out that Tsouroupidou has investigated the wrong user. She has linked to a complaint about edit warring involving a user named “Benjamin au.” It may seem like confusing “Benjamin au” with “Paul Benjamin Austin” is simply an innocent mistake, but even the most cursory examination should have alerted Tsouroupidou that something was not right. “Benjamin au” made a total of 10 edits, all but one to the same article. Why on Earth would anyone be emailing Trust & Safety about this user?

What should have been clear from viewing the noticeboard report (used to illustrate the community’s ability to deal with the problem) was that all of those edits took place on the same day in 2014. That too should have been a sign that they simply had the wrong user.

The original email to Trust & Safety not only repeated “Paul Benjamin Austin” multiple times, it included clickable links to his user page on Wikipedia. The specifics of why he was being reported included links to Wikipedia edits made by Paul Benjamin Austin to multiple articles from 2008 to 2013. Yet the Trust & Safety team somehow managed to confuse him with an editor who had a total of 10 edits made on a single day in 2014.

Meanwhile, Kalliope Tsouroupidou has been mentioned on the Wikipediocracy forums before – here, here, and here, for example. Perhaps she isn’t typical of the Trust & Safety department’s staff, but who can say? Perhaps she is.

Would you trust the Trust & Safety team to keep you safe on Wikipedia? To keep anyone safe?

Paul Benjamin Austin update
Since our blog post was published, Paul Benjamin Austin has admitted that he was behind the impersonation of former child actress Miranda Borman. On the talk page of user DavidFarmbrough, he stated:
I also set up a Facebook profile in the name of Samantha Smith. It was for the same reason – I was not 100% as Mum said and i was bored. I took it down when one of Samantha’s friends contacted me and said a Facebook profile acting as if i was her was not a tribute.
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On the administrator’s noticeboard, he offered this mea culpa:
I made a mistake for which i am sorry. A lot of people pretend to be celebrities or actors. I should not have been one of them.
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The WMF’s Terms of Use is very specific about impersonation. Under the heading “Refraining from certain activities,” the list of things you “may not engage in” includes this item:
“Attempting to impersonate another user or individual, misrepresenting your affiliation with any individual or entity, or using the username of another user with the intent to deceive.”
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Perhaps we should also note that the Terms of Use do not specify that a user’s being “sorry” or “bored” constitute special cases that permit this activity to go unhindered or unpunished.
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sorry for double post, I'm not going to spam thread.
 
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AprilRains said:
It means these people feel overwhelmed when someone has the nerve to question them in any way at all.
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To give a less cynical explanation, the gish-gallop is where you throw a shitload of false claims at you opponent, then when they can't address every stupid thing you said, you claim they're unable to answer it.

In formal debate it's basically an exploitative and degenerate strategy, in a game theory sense. It's so Superior to any other debate strategy, it actually reduces the effective strategies, and it provides useless content. The debate team that employs the fish gallop will likely score more points and 'win' the debate, even while not making any real arguments.

You see this outside of formal debate too, conspiracy theories are a good example.

Basically the believer gives a billion little 'proofs' that the theory is true. If you fail to address even one, haha, the theory must be true. It doesn't matter if you disprove everything else.

You see that kind of fallacious logic everywhere in politics. You can't justify every last action by a politician? He's bad. Our guy has this one thing that counts.
 
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Corbin Dallas Multipass said:
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That's cute and all, but it's not how the people who cry "sealioning" use the term. That was the context of the question, and I described how they use it.

Also, the term of art for incorrections like yours is "Ackchyually".
 
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