Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[Molesting the Decapitated]

Don't even pretend they obey their own policies.

> Blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users
this is an absolute fucking lie, please explain how if someone gets a 24 hour block for edit warring for genres on a band article and if you write "lol eat shit you niggers" on your own talk page your block is extended to a month?? how in the name of fuck is that not a punishment? it absolutely blows my mind that they still have this very obvious outright lie on the help page about user banning

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Lmao sure thing buddy

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

> Blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users
this is an absolute fucking lie, please explain how if someone gets a 24 hour block for edit warring for genres on a band article and if you write "lol eat shit you niggers" on your own talk page your block is extended to a month?? how in the name of fuck is that not a punishment? it absolutely blows my mind that they still have this very obvious outright lie on the help page about user banning

Because you're using your only remaining outlet on the site to start more shit with your enemies and whoever else might come across your talk page.

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

Because you're using your only remaining outlet on the site to start more shit with your enemies and whoever else might come across your talk page.

that has nothing to do with preventing "damage or disruption" to wikipedia, this isn't even the only example either. i've witnessed tons and tons of users being blocked because they didnt like the language they were using or violating 3RR.. Case proven: it's all totally done as a form of punishment - they just will never admit it

 

[WhiteNight]

First off, yes paid editors exist and have for a long time, which is why a policy about it exists. That Wikipedia's policies are inconsistently applied doesn't mean the policy was created for no reason. You can find editors at places like Upwork who will write articles and navigate the bureaucracy on your behalf, paid by the hour.


As for blocking as punishment, the case of Athaenara was discussed a few months back in this thread. She was an admin and a 16-year veteran editor who was permanently banned and even denied talk page access for offending a troon. She said,

I'll have to disagree with some of what you've said here. "We", meaning people who edit Wikipedia, do punish people for their thoughts or beliefs, as is obvious over on the dramaboards where more than a hundred people have delighted in doing exactly that....

User talk:Athaenara - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You can argue it's not punishment, it's preventing damage by deterring behavior. Except deterrence is still punishment. And in Athaenara's case the "harm" was that some troon might read her talk page and be offended that an anonymous person denies xir gender identity. So to "protect" Wikipedia she was not even allowed to discuss her situation with others.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

They collected a remarkable number of nigger variants. I admit to never having heard of a niggerologist.

There are separate citation pages for niggerdick and Niggertown; the latter I understand because of the sheer number of citations, but the former has only one. Should I be asking which one of you did this?

It's just some nigger obsessed with niggers, they deleted pages on ethnic slurs I see and use every day like "ukrop."

 

[Oats12345]

Rapper Azealia Banks mocks Pakistani descent singer Zayn Malik and African-American actress Skai Jackson and editors were quick to note that it was considered "racist" and "homophobic".

But when she goes on a tirade against Irish people, telling them that they're inbred and mocking the Great Famine, as well as calling Swedes blonde pigs who deserve to be bombed, neither incident is explicitly called "racist". Just "xenophobic". I wonder how users will word her article if she goes on a rant about smelly Indians deserving to be bombed by the British.
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How is going after Skai Jackson racist? Their both black. Also I have no sympathy for Skai Jackson anymore so that's fine.

But I really do hate how you can't use any conservative news papers when it comes to election endorsement lists on Wikipedia I don't know why but it ignores me to no end.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

Maybe stopping "damage or disruption" instead of punishment is a distinction without difference but talk pages are still a part of the site and even spitting true facts like Athaenara was can cause trouble if you are a fellow admin who finds himself having to deal with deranged trannies when all you want to do is go back to improving articles about woodworking tools.

Speaking of Athaenara, I took a look at the Wikimedia Discord group and two main trannies involved in that conflict, LilianaUwU and TheresNoTime, like to hang out there, along with other trannies and their faggot allies. My favorite exchange from their games section:

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Another Athaenara hater, Newimpartial, is currently groveling in ANI to prevent a topic ban on all articles related to TERFs and the sex freaks who terrorize them. Since he is a POV pusher who is only on Wikipedia to fuck with those articles, this would have the same effect as a total ban.

The vast majority of users support this block, and the only ones who don't are trannies, editors who gets mixed up in their own fights over tranny shit (which is why so many of them have a contentious topics template on their talk pages), and at least one friend of his. His groveling doesn't seem to be winning over anyone, but all it will take for him to get away with it is one admin declaring that the best compromise is a warning to the guy instead of the permanent topic ban that the vast majority of editors have argued for.

 

[870EVO]

First off, yes paid editors exist and have for a long time, which is why a policy about it exists. That Wikipedia's policies are inconsistently applied doesn't mean the policy was created for no reason. You can find editors at places like Upwork who will write articles and navigate the bureaucracy on your behalf, paid by the hour.
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As for blocking as punishment, the case of Athaenara was discussed a few months back in this thread. She was an admin and a 16-year veteran editor who was permanently banned and even denied talk page access for offending a troon. She said,

User talk:Athaenara - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You can argue it's not punishment, it's preventing damage by deterring behavior. Except deterrence is still punishment. And in Athaenara's case the "harm" was that some troon might read her talk page and be offended that an anonymous person denies xir gender identity. So to "protect" Wikipedia she was not even allowed to discuss her situation with others.

I don't even know how they'd do it. Like if I was a wikipedia expert, who could get paid by the hour to fix something on wikipedia. I don't think anyone could pay me to talk to cultists who control the actual rules around the argument you are having. And they can change those rules at any moment.

It's like paying me money to walk into a boxing match with my hands tied behind my back, but I'm still supposed to knock the other guy out.

 

[Walmart Wagie]

This stuck out to me on the talk page for Scott Adams

No, we definitely don't need any more context, that would only confuse people. If sources claim that what he said is racist, then the fact is that what he said is racist, it's that simple. Showing people what he actually said and what made him say it, might make some of them question that judgement. Under several of the news reports I've seen many comments written by people who seem to have looked up the context, and they ended up defending him, saying things like "If he doesn't want to hang around a group of people who openly stated how much they hate him for his skin color, then is that group racist or is he the racist for not wanting to be around those people who openly said they hate his ethnicity?". You see the problem? In the past, the news sources told the story and people made their own individual judgements, but these days the topic of race relations is so complex that we should not let laypeople decide it, therefore we should rely only on the conclusions made by experts. That's why the trusted sources are written by people who graduated degrees in journalism, critical race theory, race relations, etc. And if these sources say he is racist, then it is not our job to question them by looking up what he actually said.

If sources claim that Byuu is dead, then the fact is that he's dead. It's that simple. This whole page is a cesspool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scott_Adams#Tabloids_used_as_citation_in_Controversies_section
Archive: https://archive.is/m2S6J#Tabloids_used_as_citation_in_Controversies_section

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Another great example of how Wikipedia is not actually a encyclopedia but simply a mouthpiece for current approved opinions.

Also absolute fucking LMAO at the very next discussion where some Wikipedo is talking about trying to add the fact "on some AIM accounts that might possibly have been related to Scott in the 1990s had racist usernames". Absolute fucking nothingburguer, but for some reason another faggot is interested in going down that rabbit hole and finding a "reliable source" so they can link it.

 

[AnOminous]

If sources claim that Byuu is dead, then the fact is that he's dead. It's that simple. This whole page is a cesspool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scott_Adams#Tabloids_used_as_citation_in_Controversies_section
Archive: https://archive.is/m2S6J#Tabloids_used_as_citation_in_Controversies_section

Even on Wikipedia this is pretty obvious sarcasm. It's so similar to typical Wokipedia arguments that it might just slide. The IPv6 address kind of speaks for itself. I'd believe it was legit if it came directly from Molly White though.

 

[glue eater]

Trumpism is listed as a variety of fascism, right next to Nazism.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

"Everyone I don't like is a fascism" in full show. Because Trump was so well known for his demands to expand the Federal Government, ask all corporations to openly ally and become new part of the the State, and of course killing his opponents and anyone who made fun of him.

 

[WhiteNight]

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Trumpism is listed as a variety of fascism, right next to Nazism.

Evidently a single they/them editor is responsible for this, and it may have passed under the radar since it's a template talk page and no one replied:

Template talk:Fascism - Wikipedia

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The infobox was added to Trumpism at the same time. The same editor pasted the same comment there and got a few skeptical responses, but no reversion:

Even for Wikipedia, this seems like too much, and I expect it will eventually get undone.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

It tends to be how they do it. Slowly move the line when people aren't paying attention and pretending it is not being done if they are ever caught.

 

[scathefire]

This stuck out to me on the talk page for Scott Adams


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If sources claim that Byuu is dead, then the fact is that he's dead. It's that simple. This whole page is a cesspool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scott_Adams#Tabloids_used_as_citation_in_Controversies_section
Archive: https://archive.is/m2S6J#Tabloids_used_as_citation_in_Controversies_section

Lol if only they didn't call literally everything racist. This is using the same logic as an authoritarian state's secret police. When are they gonna start killing the kulaks?

 

[glue eater]

Evidently a single they/them editor is responsible for this, and it may have passed under the radar since it's a template talk page and no one replied:
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Template talk:Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The infobox was added to Trumpism at the same time. The same editor pasted the same comment there and got a few skeptical responses, but no reversion:
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Even for Wikipedia, this seems like too much, and I expect it will eventually get undone.

*Rates optimistic* This is from the introduction of Trumpism article.

 

[WhiteNight]

There's a discussion now on the Trumpism talk page:

*Rates optimistic* This is from the introduction of Trumpism article.

Well, that paragraph says it's uncertain how to classify Trumpism, which (I hope) weighs against making definitive claims such as putting it in a Fascism infobox.