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People who are truthers are considered right wing now but I remember reading boondocks issues from late 2001 where Aaron macgruder implied 9/11 being a setup for bush to take advantage of and how he couldn't shut up about 9/11 on tv, almost like it was manufactured and astroturfed albeit the terms didn't exist back then.
I don't believe the truther shit but it is just an obvious fact that they rushed through USA PATRIOT so quickly, an enormous document full of dozens of insane provisions, that it was absolutely obvious it had already been written and was just waiting for an event to justify forcing it down our throats. And then immediately embarked on an idiotic war on Iraq (at the same time we had an actually justified war on Afghanistan) that neocons (mostly Jewish former Trotskyites) had been clamoring for for decades.
 
I don't believe the truther shit but it is just an obvious fact that they rushed through USA PATRIOT so quickly, an enormous document full of dozens of insane provisions, that it was absolutely obvious it had already been written and was just waiting for an event to justify forcing it down our throats. And then immediately embarked on an idiotic war on Iraq (at the same time we had an actually justified war on Afghanistan) that neocons (mostly Jewish former Trotskyites) had been clamoring for for decades.
That is true, bush took advantage of 9/11 but even today the people who want to ignore 9/11 as a credible event by a foreign force are leftists. Safe to say they didn't care even in the first place, look at the seething hatred against Frank Miller's holy terror, look at any criticism towards Islamic middle easterners being dismissed as Islamophobia, look at all the support Islamic attacks around the world gets, all of it comes from one side. Im sure there was a section of leftists, actual communist types, like Aaron macgruder and people like Bernie Sanders who adopted the same position as the truthers just it being done by the neocon capitalists instead of the Jews. There's also other conspiracies centered around the bush administration like Bush being the one who set up frameworks for DEI and ESG in 2008, which is an NRX theory I've seen no evidence for but it's safe to say leftists at least the large majority think 9/11 was manufactured. Going forward I think we can expect the globohomo media to try to scrub it completely or change it to something else it wasn't like theyre doing with Epstein and Palestine.
 
but it's safe to say leftists at least the large majority think 9/11 was manufactured.
Actually a ridiculous number think not only that it happened and not only did Osama do it, but it was actually justified. This isn't a new thing, it goes back as far as fake redskin Ward Churchill.
 
Never forget that meme was absolutely made-up bullshit.

Not only was it not made up as records show it happened (ABC news openly talking about it and their possible link to Mossad man early 2000's was such a different time) (FBI report on it) but during the time period of the late 1990's the Mossad ran a massive operation of infiltration and intelligence on the USA, making particular use of "foreign art students" in US universities that was being exposed close to 9/11 including even use of primitive cyberwarfare assets to spy on computers (Fox openly talking about Israeli inteligence fucking with the USA the 2000's man). It perfectly possible they weren't even related to the attacks but merely knew it would happen as Mossad members, as it would be vastly safer for Israel to not be involved in planning and orchestrating it if they don't want to be caught. Why bother with a false flag when your enemy is gonna launch a actual attack? Just let them do it and you have your hands clean.

The whole 9/11 truther movement was the subject of massive, sustained and coordinated sabotage and attacks for over a decade as to destroy it completly. Think about what was done with Pizzagate which eventually led to Epstein finally getting caught and "suicided" and how the media made sure to slander it 24/7 as "they think a pizza shop is a satanic temple guys pay no attention to emails and testimony and acusations or the far more accepted in their community theories about it" or even GamerGate where mainstream media even tried to claim Ethan Ralph was a "gamergate leader" to discredit the movement, not consider how much more powerful media was in those days to get away with it.

9/11 questions that are perfectly valid like "why did WTC7 collapse" and "how come no one asked the Saudis about their nationals" and "why are there so many reports of explosions before the buildings collapsed" and "why are the reports so top secret and the presidential and vice presidential testimony not under oath and on record" were swamped and replaced by media mockery into "there were no planes guys" "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" and "it was actually done with suitcase nukes". It was successfully killed with purposeful misinformation and manipulation of the discussion. A much more effective way to kill dissent than actual censorship, and it took the heat off the faked WMDs as well since it was very easy to lump those questioning 9/11 with any questioning of American actions.
 
To bring the truther spergery back on topic: Wikipedia had for a time an "Israeli art students" article which covered a theory about foreknowledge of student infiltrators. Here's a 2002 BBC article on a Die Zeit investigation:
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The Wikipedia article was deleted in 2006:
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However, it kept getting recreated. So then the genius idea was to redirect it to "Culture of Israel" since that's clearly what someone typing "Israeli art students" would be interested in. A few tried to change the redirect, and so the decision was made in 2009 to delete and salt it:
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That's right, two participants, with one saying salt to prevent changes, and the second saying delete because it's a stupid redirect but as of now it has no place to go.

In 2010 it was allowed to be recreated to point to an article "Israeli art student scam" about con men posing as Israeli dealers selling worthless paintings at inflated prices. However, the article did have a much larger section about the spying allegations:
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However, after barely surviving an AfD, the article was renamed (with a redirect) to "Art student scam" and the spying portion spun into a new article "Allegations of Israeli espionage operation 2000–2001". But then that new article was deleted a few months later citing WP:FORK:

Meanwhile, nearly all references to Israel have been removed from the original article. Scammers are said to be "of Chinese, Chilean, Nigerian and other nationalities".

So now "Israeli art students" is a double redirect to "Art student scam" whose text only makes one passing reference to an incident where two Israelis were questioned.
 
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remember reading boondocks issues from late 2001 where Aaron macgruder implied 9/11 being a setup for bush to take advantage of and how he couldn't shut up about 9/11 on tv, almost like it was manufactured and astroturfed albeit the terms didn't exist back then.
Oh you can definitely find earlier conspiracy theories. One of the more comical examples comes from Steven Seagal's 1994 movie "on deadly ground." To quote Jabootu, "Amazingly, in Seagal’s original “director’s cut” (which is the cut given to the producers, before they test it and usually alter the film), this speech supposedly clocked a stupefying ten straight minutes (!!). Needless to say, when they tested the film with live audiences, viewers began abandoning the theater in droves during this sequence. Ultimately, they talked Seagal into cutting it down by two thirds. Considering the poor intellectual quality (not to mention the wacky Fox Mulder-ish conspiracy theories) of the remaining harangue, one can only wonder at what the stuff that they cut out sounded like. Hopefully, Bad Movie(tm) scholars will someday unearth this lost footage, and the world will gain additional evidence of the magic that is Steven Seagal."

“I’d like to start out by saying, thank you to all the brothers and sisters that have come here today representing this cause. I have been asked by Mr. Itok and the tribal council to speak to you and the members of the Press about the injustice that has been brought against us by some Government Officials and Big Business (1). How many of you out there have heard of alternative engines? Engines that can run on anything from alcohol to garbage or water (2). Or carburetors that can get hundreds of miles to the gallon. Or electric or magnetic engines, that can practically run forever. You don’t know about them because if they were to come into use, they’d put the oil companies out of business. The concept of the internal combustion engine has been obsolete for over fifty years. But because of the Oil Cartels and corrupt government regulation, we and the rest of the world have been forced to use gasoline for over a hundred years. Big Business is primarily responsible for destroying the water we drink, the air we breathe and the food we eat (3). They have no care for the world they destroy, only for the money they make in the process. How many oil spills can we endure? Millions and millions of gallons of oil are now destroying the ocean and the many forms of life it supports. Among these is plankton, which supplies sixty to ninety percent of the Earth’s oxygen (4). This supports the entire marine ecosystem which forms the basis of our planet’s food supply. But the plankton is dying. I thought, well, let’s go to remote state or country, anywhere on Earth. But in doing a little research I realized that these people broker toxic waste all over the world. They basically control the legislation, and, in fact, they control the Law. The Law says, “no company can be fined over $25,000 a day (5).” For companies making $10,000,000 dollars a day by dumping lethal toxic wastes into the ocean, it’s only good business to continue doing this. They influence the media so that they can control our minds (6). They have made it a crime to speak out for ourselves, and if we do so we’re called “conspiracy nuts” and we’re laughed at (7). We’re angry because we’re all being chemically and genetically damaged, and we don’t even realize it (8). Unfortunately, this will effect our children. We go to work each day and right under our noses we see our car and the car in front of us (9) spewing noxious poisonous gasses that are all accumulative poisons. These poisons kill us slowly, even when we see no effect. How many of us would have believed if we were told twenty years ago that on a certain day we wouldn’t be able to see fifty feet in front of us. That we wouldn’t be able to take a deep breath because the air would be a mass of poisonous gas (10). That we wouldn’t be able to drink out of our faucets, that we’d have to buy water out of bottles. Our most common and God-given rights have been taken away from us. Unfortunately, the reality of our lives is so grim that nobody wants to hear it (11). Now, I’ve been asked what we can do? I think we need a responsible body of people that can actually represent us rather than Big Business (12). This body of people must not allow the introduction of anything into our environment that is not absolutely biodegradable or able to be chemically neutralized upon production (13). And finally, as long as there is profit to be made from polluting the Earth (14), companies and individuals will continue to do what they want. We have to force these companies to operate safely and responsibly, and with all our best interests in mind (15). So that when they don’t, we can take back our resources and our hearts and our minds and do what’s right.”
 
Technically correct but when I think criminal I think gangs and shit
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If I had to guess they probably think documenting Chris counts as dogpiling. In their mind he's only noteworthy to malicious trolls, so paying any attention to him is malicious trolling by definition.
Which is hilarious since CWC is more relevant than any literal who journos or tranny that gets an article today.
I know they would argue "But far right is appropriate because muh French Revolution"

Bitch, you and I we both know by "Far Right" we are not talking about people really really into getting the House of Bourbon back on the throne of France.

Speaking of which:

Insanity
Shocked they don't go back to the War in the Vendee where revolutionary troops brutally slaughtered revolting peasants and aristocrats alike who despised what was going on in Paris. Or the other revolts that occurred as a reaction to the Revolution.

After all, they were all 'right-wing' by the retarded definition of that and supported monarchism and Catholicism.
 
Shocked they don't go back to the War in the Vendee where revolutionary troops brutally slaughtered revolting peasants and aristocrats alike who despised what was going on in Paris. Or the other revolts that occurred as a reaction to the Revolution.

I have only heard (Hardline Conservative) Catholics talk about all of those, as there seems to otherwise be a consensus to avoid talking about this at all.
 
not really dumb stuff on wikipedia (well, debatable) but there's this neat browser game called redactle where you're given a heavily redacted wikipedia article daily and you have to slowly guess words to unredact the page to guess what the article is about, the less guesses the better you do. idk maybe someone here would like it
 
I have only heard (Hardline Conservative) Catholics talk about all of those, as there seems to otherwise be a consensus to avoid talking about this at all.

Add me to the list of people who will now bring it up.

Honestly the french are such faggots. Unable to sit fucking still for 5 fucking minutes, something happened in the late 18th century I swear that broke their fucking minds.
 
Add me to the list of people who will now bring it up.

Honestly the french are such faggots. Unable to sit fucking still for 5 fucking minutes, something happened in the late 18th century I swear that broke their fucking minds.

Well, France absolutely kicked ass in the 17th Century becoming a powerhouse in Europe.

18th Century, on the other hand, sucked immensely.

I'd rather avoid sperging about the reasons why it sucked so much lest I get flooded with 'autistic', 'moai' and 'dumb' stickers
 
Technically correct but when I think criminal I think gangs and shit
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This was an interesting find. Whatever one thinks of military juntas, one of them (Cacciatore) was never prosecuted let alone convicted of any crime. And regardless of later prosecutions of some of the rest of them, that isn't primarily what they are known for. It was originally done in this edit by an anon IP. He simply took them from their prior (correct) military category and put them in 'criminal'. These were this IP's only edits and it escaped notice all these years.
 
This was an interesting find. Whatever one thinks of military juntas, one of them (Cacciatore) was never prosecuted let alone convicted of any crime. And regardless of later prosecutions of some of the rest of them, that isn't primarily what they are known for. It was originally done in this edit by an anon IP. He simply took them from their prior (correct) military category and put them in 'criminal'. These were this IP's only edits and it escaped notice all these years.
If they were convicted I'd still argue against putting them there. Not out of any love for the junta though, just because it is a retarded technicality.
 
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