Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

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Cerrathegreat said:
Specific write-in votes have been removed anyway because of WP:WEIGHT, so the point is moot. The same should probably be done retroactively for past conventions if someone else here has the spare time.
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Classic WP. Quick, change everything to make it look like our unprincipled exception was actually The Consensus all along!
 
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D_Tractor said:
They removed all mentions of all write-in votes in the article about the 2024 Libertarian Convention to avoid mentioning Chris..
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Ewan McGregor said:
Wow, he really has been un-personed.
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Here's another recent example, from last month.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiwi_Farms&action=history
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There was a long discussion (here) in the talk page of the Kiwi Farms article, where people brought up how Chris did an interview with Keffals and doesn't seem to care about keeping a low profile. A few editors appear open to the possibility of naming Chris in the article, calling his unpersoning on Wikipedia "a fossilized consensus from many years ago."

Following this discussion, that Colonel Knight Rider guy above tried to edit the main KF article to add Chris' name, only to have a super janny (Primefac) immediately nuke his edit a mere three minutes later. A second edit later on was reverted in eleven minutes.

Primefac's user page said:
I am an Oversighter, so if you need sensitive/personal/private/etc information suppressed please email me or the OS team.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight
Suppression on Wikipedia (also known as oversight for historical reasons) is a form of enhanced deletion that, unlike normal page deletion or revision deletion, expunges information from any form of usual access, even by administrators. It is used within strict limits to protect privacy, remove defamatory material, and sometimes to remove serious copyright violations, from any edit, revision, page, or log entry on the English Wikipedia.

On the English Wikipedia, "oversight" (the power to suppress information) is entrusted to a restricted number of users, who can suppress material if it meets the strict requirements below.
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Very Orwellian, especially when this power is being used for something as trivial as censoring all mentions of Chris Chan's name. 🙄
 
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I cannot blame them from wanting to obliterate any mentions to Chris.

It's been proven time after time that the man is cursed. Anything that has to do with him is cursed. Anywhere where his name pops up is cursed.

Cole Smithey's career had been reduced to renting himself, and his marriage went down in flames
Megan Schroeder is forever pestered by weirdos
Michael Snyder's business went bankrupt
The whole fucking Mall went bankrupt
ED disappeared
SA suffered a fate worse than death
4Chan descended onto lows unknown by SA
TVTropes, of all things, had to ban discussion on Christory and Sonichu
And then Fast Eddie got gutted
Youtube lost its soul
Troonery took over nerddom and ruined cons
Family Guy stopped being funny
South Park went woke-ish
The Simpsons are rotten
Ruckersville's long suffering neighbors apparently have to deal with a real state value black hole
Greene County's seen an influx of shitskins lately
Charlottesville became ground zero for kulturkampf
Null thoroughly ruined his life
ILJ got herself infamy
Ethan Ralph got gunted
Rekieta got Rekt

Wikipedia is counting its blessings here.
 
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glue eater said:
My friend is a reindeer herder, and a lot of Chinese tourists visit Lapland because they believe aurea borealis has some magical qualities. He caught two chinks trying to saw off his reindeer's antlers because apparently its a chinese potency medicine. Really, it seems like anything that can be acquired from an animal through torture is some ancient chinese ED pill. He shot in the air a few times with his shotgun, sending the chinkoids scattering. Total...you know.
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God I hate chink tourists. I've lived somewhere that got a lot of both chinks and Japanese and even as a white guy, you could instantly tell which were chinks and which were Japanese just by the subhuman behavior of the former.

The Japanese would always be polite, ask questions showing they actually knew the history of the place, treat you with respect as a guest in your country, and of course, the most stereotypical feature, snap photographs with high end cameras.

The chinks would literally take a shit next to a Port-a-Potty. No joke.
Temperance XIV said:
Following this discussion, that Colonel Knight Rider guy above tried to edit the main KF article to add Chris' name, only to have a super janny (Primefac) immediately nuke his edit a mere three minutes later. A second edit later on was reverted in eleven minutes.
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It just shows what absolutely worthless liars wikipedos are that they even bother having an article about us for pure hitpiece purposes but yet these pedos censor why the site even exists in the first place.

TWD.
 
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Sargon's wife's son said:
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you're not actually Imam
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criticizing Islamic fundamentalism makes you far right
I guarantee you if the Catholics still had a dominant force these people would be posting Wikipedia article saying killing Protestant is totally justified and John Calvin deserved it
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Is this another classic case of Twelver Shias being civilized or is this just more of the 1400 year long sectarian struggle between Sunnis and Shias rearing its head again?
glue eater said:
Really, it seems like anything that can be acquired from an animal through torture is some ancient chinese ED pill. He shot in the air a few times with his shotgun, sending the chinkoids scattering. Total...you know.
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Apparently the chinks cook animals alive because it brinks out more potency or some shit. I'm not talking about tossing a live crab in boiling water or some shit, I'm talking about tossing the duck or rat or dog or whatever the fuck they deem edible in the oven and seeing what comes out.
 
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General Emílio Médici said:
The article explains that this comes from them deciding the ADL can't be trusted as a source for Palestine-Israel conflict, and it has been expanded to also deem them unreliable for antisemitism. Ironically this is exactly the position Elon Musk has had for a while now.
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They actually have a point in a clock stopped kind of way, although it's a virtual certainty their actual reasoning is deranged and solely because they love terrorists who want to kill them more than they love their own lives.
 
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WhiteNight said:
Our favorite editor K.e.coffman curiously !voted to declare the ADL "generally unreliable" in all three topic areas being considered.

Israel/Palestine:
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Anti-Semitism (copy/paste):
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Hate symbols:
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Many of the same arguments could be applied to the SPLC (in fact, for a long time, they appeared to have the same web designer) - they have the exact same modus operandi. Wonder when they'll take that one up; they still treat their glorified fundraising newsletters as a valid source.
 
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The ADL discussion has been closed. Summary of result:
In the first part of this RfC, there is a clear consensus that the ADL is generally unreliable regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. [See previous partial close.] The second part extends this consensus to the intersection of antisemitism and the conflict, such as labeling pro-Palestinian activists as antisemitic. While the second part in theory encompassed all ADL coverage of antisemitism, much of the discussion focused, explicitly or implicitly, on that intersection. There was insufficient argumentation against the ADL's reliability regarding antisemitism in other contexts; much of the opposition in that regard focused on subjective disagreements as to how far the taint of the Israel-related general unreliability should spread. The ADL can roughly be taken as reliable on the topic of antisemitism when Israel and Zionism are not concerned. We remind editors that source reliability is always a case-by-case matter. RSN's purpose is to answer the general case. The reliability of a given statement by a source, for a given statement in a Wikipedia article, must always be decided by that article's editors.

The third part of the discussion, about the ADL's hate symbol database, was largely unrelated to the first two. Editors' concerns were mostly not about Israel–Palestine issues, but about poor editorial oversight of the database. We are aware that the ADL has taken note of this discussion, which affords a rare opportunity to directly address a source that editors have identified quality-control issues with: If the ADL invests more effort in editorial review of its hate symbol database entries, including bylines and other means of establishing expertise, that would address most of the concerns expressed by the community. Until then, however, the rough consensus here is that the database is reliable for the existence of a symbol and for straightforward facts about it, but not reliable for more complex details, such as symbols' history. In-text attribution to the ADL may be advisable when it is cited in such cases.
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The ADL has responded with a petition:
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Here is their template email text:
I write to you as an ADL supporter to express my deep concern and utter dismay regarding the attacks by some Wikipedia editors on ADL’s reliability on the topic of antisemitism and other issues of central concern to the Jewish community. Fundamentally, if these editors are successful, Wikipedia will be stripping the Jewish community of the right to define the hatred that targets our community. It is impossible to imagine any other community having its own definition of hatred questioned or challenged in this manner.

ADL is a leading global authority on antisemitism, and the Jewish community has, for decades, relied on ADL’s data and resources to help us and society at large understand the nature, scope, and magnitude of antisemitism in the U.S. and around the globe. ADL is consistently attacked from both the far left and far right, demonstrating its commitment to calling balls and strikes in a nonpartisan way, based on data and evidence.

The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (“IHRA”) Working Definition of Antisemitism is the preeminent and most widely accepted definition of antisemitism today, embraced in the 2023 U.S. National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism and adopted or endorsed by more than half of the U.S. states as well as the District of Columbia. It is also used by over 1,000 other governments, universities, NGOs, and other key institutions, demonstrating a clear international consensus. An attack on any Jewish communal organization's reliability over its use of the IHRA definition and advocacy on behalf of the Jewish people is an attack on the entire Jewish community.

Antisemitism is one of the oldest and most pernicious forms of hate, and it is also in many ways one of the most often misunderstood. ADL has studied, monitored, and worked to counter antisemitism for decades. ADL – indeed the entire Jewish community – should be given the deference and respect to define anti-Jewish oppression – the same respect other communities are afforded. I am deeply concerned that if these editors are successful, it will enable others to undermine the Jewish community’s claims or charges of antisemitism and simultaneously use Wikipedia as cover to perpetuate antisemitism. At a time when antisemitic attitudes are increasing and antisemitic incidents are skyrocketing, this is simply unacceptable, and it puts our entire community at risk.

I urge you to immediately launch an investigation into this effort and the motivations behind it, and to start the process for administrative reconsideration. I hope that you will simultaneously speak out clearly and unequivocally in support of the Jewish community’s right to define and defend against antisemitism - and that of all marginalized communities as they both define and grapple with the hate they face.
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There is a discussion on AN, moving fast:

BootlegPopeye said:
Many of the same arguments could be applied to the SPLC (in fact, for a long time, they appeared to have the same web designer) - they have the exact same modus operandi. Wonder when they'll take that one up; they still treat their glorified fundraising newsletters as a valid source.
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The SPLC would have to take up a position opposed by the far left, which the ADL has done in continuing to uncategorically support Israel during the conflict in Gaza.


Finally, as a tangent, a new discussion has exploded on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard trying to classify the Telegraph as unreliable on trans issues because a few of their articles don't wholly swallow the troon pill.
Surprisingly, most Wikipedians aren't buying it.
 
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WhiteNight said:
The ADL discussion has been closed. Summary of result:
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It would be hilarious if Wikipedo ends up criminally prosecuted in Germany or one of the other countries that has criminalized Holocaust denial, because a lot of the shit they're censoring under this new, insane, pro-terrorist, genocidal policy is, in fact, actual literal Holocaust denial.
 
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BootlegPopeye said:
Many of the same arguments could be applied to the SPLC (in fact, for a long time, they appeared to have the same web designer) - they have the exact same modus operandi. Wonder when they'll take that one up; they still treat their glorified fundraising newsletters as a valid source.
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If this exchange is any indication? Soon.

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AnOminous said:
It's hilarious to see a Wikipedo talk about how becoming recognized as a neutral arbiter and then abandoning neutrality destroys your reputation.
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Hopped on his talk page after that, caught this gem of a conversation.

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@Levivich And it's going to get worse under Trump. Doug Weller talk 07:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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God, I fucking love that Freudian slip. They already know he's going to win.
 
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