Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[Mike Sneedsby]

As I have said before, the overwhelming number of citations is a great sign of propaganda.

It generally means jannies are trying to shore up some very tendentious or outright false claim by loading up 14 different rags that parrot the same thing, which is bulletproof by Wikipedia truth standards.

That or some autist managed to find 18 different, gold-standard sources to back up the bold claim that Cambodia is situated in Asia. To be fair, it's not like Wikipedians are allowed to demonstrate or infer this themselves (that would be original research).

 

[Henri Barbusse]

They tried to do the usual Wikipedia Hit Piece on Tatsuya Ishida but, for whatever reason, it fizzled out and Sinfest's entry is happily frozen in around 2010.

Sometimes being washed up has its perks.

That's crazy because with Tatsuya Ishida, it wouldn't be a hit piece, but the truth.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

It generally means jannies are trying to shore up some very tendentious or outright false claim by loading up 14 different rags that parrot the same thing, which is bulletproof by Wikipedia truth standards.

That or some autist managed to find 18 different, gold-standard sources to back up the bold claim that Cambodia is situated in Asia. To be fair, it's not like Wikipedians are allowed to demonstrate or infer this themselves (that would be original research).

We need the WaPo to fortify Cambodia's location

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Fucking CSI sperging

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Caine

n reference to Caruso's earlier role, the CIS: Miami sixth season premiere "Dangerous Son" reveals Horatio Caine to have gone undercover as "John Kelly" in New York the early 1990s (retroactively indicating John Kelly and Horatio Caine to be the same character), conceiving a long-lost son, Kyle Harmon, with Julia Winston.

The character of Horatio Caine was popular with viewers, especially women, coming to be regarded as a sex symbol.[3]

Patrick West describes the character as representing "a reaction against the globalized multi-nationalism, multi-racism and multi-ethnicities of Miami"; he dissects Caine's actions in "Identity" (where he arrests Clavo Cruz after demolishing his claim to diplomatic immunity), considering that the character "effectively restabilizes American identity within melting pot Miami".[10]

West goes on to highlight Caine's "patriarchal" aspects (for example, reviewing his relationship with his sister-in-law Yelina Salas); he comments that they "shape... his relationships to victims and the CSI team, and his relationship to community in general."[10] West extends this analysis into the character's "authoritative yet mildly tolerant" attitude to the entire Miami community, commenting that it is based in Caine's "racial identity... as a white American."[10] He comments that the CSI team stands in for Caine's family, quoting a review of "Blood in the Water" by Kristine Huntley, who highlights the isolating nature of the character's pseudo-parental relationship with his team.[10]

 

[Lone Star]

Fucking CSI sperging

Thanks. Now I know that this has an article for some fucking reason.

 

[Throng of Titans]

I've always been confused on why wikipedia allows pages for individual fictional characters that aren't particularly notable or prolific.

Like I get logging a mythological character like Odysseus, both for historical reasons and due to differences in mythological interpretation. Or maybe characters of long running comic books. I even sort of get logging a character like Spongebob to some degree, but do we really need a page for things like every pokemon from a given generation, a character who appeared in a single game ever, and some mixed race fag from Disco Elysium?

Aren't these the sort of things fan wikis should detail, rather than an encyclopedic site?

 

[DeadwastePrime]

some mixed race fag from Disco Elysium?

kim kitsuragi is one of the best characters in that game bitch

 

[Throng of Titans]

kim kitsuragi is one of the best characters in that game bitch

I'm not objecting to the character in and of himself, just that an individual character who showed up in a single game probably doesn't need a multisection long wikipedia article, especially if they've decided that Chris Chan is apparently not notable, to the degree of removing mentions of him from pages that he appears on.

 

[WhiteNight]

things like every pokemon from a given generation

There used to be individual articles for every Pokemon character, which resulted in the "Pokemon test" circa 2006:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pok%C3%A9mon_test

In short, it became a frequent argument in Articles for Deletion that if every Pokemon character deserved an article, then surely XXX deserves one.

The characters were eventually merged into list articles such as the one you linked.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictosexuality

Sociologist and queer theorist Yuu Matsuura argues that sexual attraction to fictional characters subverts established norms in a different manner from Judith Butler's performativity[clarification needed].[8] The subversion is "transforming the method of perception or the way of desire through animation constructing the beings of a category that did not exist before."[16]

According to queer theorist Yuu Matsuura, human-oriented sexualism is closely related to heteronormativity. Human-oriented sexualism erases the possibility of segmenting sexuality in ways other than the "heterosexual/homosexual" category, thus serving as a precondition for the exclusion of homosexuality.[8] Heteronormativity is positioned as a combination of gender binarism and human-oriented sexualism.[2][22] Furthermore, it has been observed that human-oriented sexualism shares roots with transphobia, operating within the same structural framework.[2]

Kazuki Fujitaka, associate professor of feminist/queer studies at Kyoto Sangyo University, highly appreciated Matsuura's theory about critique against human-oriented sexualism and described the theory as "a practice of healing those who get hurt by a normative society and of defamiliarizing the world," akin to what bell hooks calls "theory as liberatory practice."[23]

According to Matsuura, fictosexuals have been marginalized or concealed in societies that adhere to the norm of sexual attraction to human beings. They are occasionally stigmatized or pathologized.[1]

Through interviews with fictosexual individuals, Matsuura discovered that they face similar forms of oppression due to compulsory sexuality as asexual individuals.[9] Furthermore, it was observed that sexual desire does not always entail a desire for sexual intercourse.[9] Just as not all allosexuals desire sexual contact, some fictosexual individuals do not desire interactive relationships with fictional characters.[1][9] Matsuura's research indicates that these individuals are rendered invisible under amatonormativity.[9] Interview surveys suggest that the practices of fictosexual individuals offer possibilities to challenge compulsory sexuality and human-oriented sexualism.[3][9]

Japanese school administrator Akihiko Kondo, who identifies as a fictosexual,[25][26] symbolically married Hatsune Miku in 2018.[27] In June 2023, he founded the General Incorporated Association of Fictosexuality[28][29] to provide comfort to fictosexuals, hold meetings with people that have similar views, and improve the understanding of the subject.[30] Izumi Tsuji, secretary of the Japan Youth Study Group at Chuo University, where he is a sociology of culture professor, described Kondo as "a pioneer for the fictosexual movement".[31]

TSD

Total Sociologist Death

 

[Susanna]

I'm not objecting to the character in and of himself, just that an individual character who showed up in a single game probably doesn't need a multisection long wikipedia article, especially if they've decided that Chris Chan is apparently not notable, to the degree of removing mentions of him from pages that he appears on.

I bet you more people know about Chris Chan than have ever played that game. He’s internet famous. And if you try to look him up on Wikipedia, you’re met with nothing, and maybe will be able to find sonichu.com instead. You’d think Wikipedia people would prefer novitiates learn about Chris from a “centred” and “unbiased” source, than from “evil stalker kiwis“, but it’s hardly as if they’re being rational about this. They know that presenting Chris, even in a pro-Chris bias, will still make him look bad. They know that discussing this arch-trooncel who raped his own mother as she and her will peak people.

 

[AnOminous]

I even sort of get logging a character like Spongebob to some degree, but do we really need a page for things like every pokemon from a given generation, a character who appeared in a single game ever, and some mixed race fag from Disco Elysium?

To be fair with the last, he's one of the two main characters. Still I think as general policy characters who appear in one game should be dealt with in the article for that game.

So for instance, Gordon Freeman is easily iconic enough to deserve his own article but not even an important character from a single game.

 

[Tinten]

A long while ago I'd watch the medi-drama show "ER" with my folks. After watching one of the episodes, maybe somewhere around season two or even one, I looked it up for some reason I can't remember on Wikipedia. I can't remember which episode it was, but it might've been the episode where the wife of the lead character serves him divorce papers. Probably that considering the edit I found.

Anyway, on the page, the whole list of appearing characters were on this neat little table, denotating their name and role. Lo and behold someone had edited the table to list "[Actress] - Doc Greene's asshole wife". It tickled me then and still does now. Just why? Why sabotage the professionalism of the page for that little remark? I love it and wish I could find it again. The Wiki truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[TheySeeMeRowlin]

@BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny: The Sharty thread is down now that the entire /raid/ board is down, but the thread was up for long enough that we were able to determine that Dronebogus, rather than being just a run-of-the-mill commiepedotroon autist, was actually a fed posing as one: https://archive.marge.moe/raid/thread/123664#p138632

Is that IP address able to be traced? Once I get some more dox on him, I plan to further embarrass Wikipedia by writing a Substack article titled "Federal Agent Dronebogus: Unmasking Wikipedia's Most Notorious Trans Activist Pedophile". But, to write that, I need at least his real name as well.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

@BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny: The Sharty thread is down now that the entire /raid/ board is down, but the thread was up for long enough that we were able to determine that Dronebogus, rather than being just a run-of-the-mill commiepedotroon autist, was actually a fed posing as one: https://archive.marge.moe/raid/thread/123664#p138632

Is that IP address able to be traced? Once I get some more dox on him, I plan to further embarrass Wikipedia by writing a Substack article titled "Federal Agent Dronebogus: Unmasking Wikipedia's Most Notorious Trans Activist Pedophile". But, to write that, I need at least his real name as well.

I think it looks like a static IP based on the lengthy Wikipedia edit history associated with it. Dronebogus starts editing with this IP in June 2019, and stops in April 2020, after creaking a Wikipedia account. I reckon if it's static it can be traced, but that's not my wheelhouse.
Source, archive

 

[TheySeeMeRowlin]

I think it looks like a static IP based on the lengthy Wikipedia edit history associated with it. Dronebogus starts editing with this IP in June 2019, and stops in April 2020, after creaking a Wikipedia account. I reckon if it's static it can be traced, but that's not my wheelhouse.
Source, archive

Who on here might be able to trace it?

 

[Moral Decay]

Dronebogus, rather than being just a run-of-the-mill commiepedotroon autist, was actually a fed posing as one: https://archive.marge.moe/raid/thread/123664#p138632

The IP address corresponding to the county courthouse seems hardly sufficient to call him a federal agent. Even the IP lookup service said they the addresses usually correspond to the area's population center.

All you can say for sure is that he's from Montrose, CO. I even just checked with my own IP, and I can say for certain that the GPS coordinates it gives you are not reliable for finding the exact address they were browsing from.

 

[Flexo]

The IP address corresponding to the county courthouse seems hardly sufficient to call him a federal agent. Even the IP lookup service said they the addresses usually correspond to the area's population center.

Don't always get hung up on the building as a clue to the contents. I for one know of a local county attorney's office that moved out of the courthouse into a skyscraper. And it's not uncommon for fed workers to maybe have an office or two inside a local building if they have some kind of working relationship with one of the occupants. I've seen enough weird arrangements to never again make any assumptions about who's occupying a building.

 

[Moral Decay]

Don't always get hung up on the building as a clue to the contents. I for one know of a local county attorney's office that moved out of the courthouse into a skyscraper. And it's not uncommon for fed workers to maybe have an office or two inside a local building if they have some kind of working relationship with one of the occupants. I've seen enough weird arrangements to never again make any assumptions about who's occupying a building.

Yeah, you're not wrong. My point was more that there is no reason to make that logical leap yet. No need for them to go off half-cocked and end in a faildox just because a wikipedophile might live within a mile of a town courthouse.

I hope they're right about Dronebogus being a glowie, though, because that's the funniest option imo.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Yeah, you're not wrong. My point was more that there is no reason to make that logical leap yet. No need for them to go off half-cocked and end in a faildox just because a wikipedophile might live within a mile of a town courthouse.

I hope they're right about Dronebogus being a glowie, though, because that's the funniest option imo.

Dronebogus being a literal janitor at the courthouse would be the funniest outcome.