Dune Part 2 is (one of) the best Sci-Fi i ever watched.

Ngl the part in the books where Paul transforms into a giant sandworm and ascends to godhood in the books was some pretty autistic anime tier shit.
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Ngl the part in the books where Paul transforms into a giant sandworm and ascends to godhood in the books was some pretty autistic anime tier shit.
Anime wishes it was as autistic and pervy as the Dune sequels.

Leto has the perfect autist trajectory: Be born in well-to-do family. Have sex with worm. Turn yourself into fat worm monster. Force everybody to endure your constant political ranting. Get sad and kill your girlfriend and yourself.
 
@SargonF00t going to answer you, but bear in mind I'm kind of going to spoil the book to do so.
1. Nothing being done with Baron Harkonnen.
You've no idea what you are missing out when compared to the Judge Holden looking ass of the movies.
Whatever happened to that spider creature we saw in the first film? Was it the wife of the Asian doctor who betrayed House Atriedes? I thought the Harkonnen's engaged in horrific experiments on humanoids and turned them into creatures like the spider thing. They should have explored this area more.
The spider creature was meant as a setup for the Tleilaxu, a weird faction/race that created genetic experiments and are more important in later books. Piter was the only member of the Harkonnen camp with any creativity for man-made horrors and that was a plot line that the movie cut. It was theorised but not confirmed it was Wanna (the doctor's wife). The spider is a movie thing, doesn't happen in the books.
2. Was Baron Harkonnen bathing in black sludge as part of a treatment to survive the poisoning of Duke Leto from the first film? Was the metal spine attachments also a result of that poisioning? No mention of this. Would have been good to see a scene where he speaks to Paul and blames Paul's father for his condition.
Yes. This is a movie only thing and is a reference to Lynch's movie. The metal spine works with the suspensors (why the Baron floats), he has it cuz he is fucking fat.
3. Feyd-Rautha was supposedly fighting drugged prisoners for show on a regular basis? How does he become an elite fighter if that is the bulk of who he fights?
Bull fighting is a big symbolism in the book and no matador ever leaps into an arena with a bull that isn't a little bit handicapped. Feyd fights against slaves on a drug that overrides their self-preservation instinct, so there's a sport to it.
4. Baron Harkonnen decides to not drug one out of three prisoners, and this is supposed to be some big test of Feyd-Rautha? The guy who wasn't drugged, had been kept in poor conditions in a cell for who knows how long.
Changed moment from the books. The Harkonnens managed to kidnap Thuffir Hawat (the Atreides mentat) and force him to join them by poisoning him (the Piter contribution I mentioned earlier, they give him a temporary antidote if he complies). Hawat undermines them in many ways, one of them is getting a former Atreides soldier in the arena and faking that this guy is on the drug mentioned earlier (it turns your skin orange, so Hawat just painted him) meaning Feyd is going against a guy that won't just run to his knife. This wasn't intended as a test but Feyd used the situation to prove himself to The Baron and the Fenrings (the Count is the one that says the line the Baron says in the movie iirc). The Baron didn't know shit about it and this leads into his distrust of his own slavemaster.
5. Gurney Halleck's fight with Rabban was so quick and underwhelming, it may as well not happened. Did they just want to tick off a list of things to do in the film, and this one just got the bare essentials?
In the book Paul gets into a 'my life was ruined by them more' competition to get Gurney out of the way so he can fight Feyd. Gurney gets no action or closure because every other Harkonnen was killed before he arrived.
6. How do the Fremen go to attack the other houses in space, when they have no ships and even if they stole the Emperor's ships, they wouldn't know how to use them?
In the book they didn't travel to space. They just crashed sandworms and nukes on a natural fortification where they knew everyone that mattered was at because of the psychic link Paul has with his sister.
 
I've never read the books. I thought Part 1 was cool but Part 2 blowed.

The fremen think Lady Jessica is a spy, then five minutes later they made her their pope. Paul is Ray from Star Wars, he goes from a pussy to a military badass in only a few months. Austin Butler's character was filler nonsense that only pads the movies run time. The fremen who were depicted as desert dwellers in the first movie are suddenly winning an offensive war against a technologically superior enemy. Paul after proclaiming his love for Zendaya in both movies doesn't hesitate to cuck her for the Emperors daughter. The finale fight between Austin Butler and Paul was bad. And the movie ends on a cliffhanger which is also bad.
 
I've never read the books. I thought Part 1 was cool but Part 2 blowed.

The fremen think Lady Jessica is a spy, then five minutes later they made her their pope. Paul is Ray from Star Wars, he goes from a pussy to a military badass in only a few months. Austin Butler's character was filler nonsense that only pads the movies run time. The fremen who were depicted as desert dwellers in the first movie are suddenly winning an offensive war against a technologically superior enemy. Paul after proclaiming his love for Zendaya in both movies doesn't hesitate to cuck her for the Emperors daughter. The finale fight between Austin Butler and Paul was bad. And the movie ends on a cliffhanger which is also bad.
The time scale of the movie is retarded. In the Lynch movie he tries to show that it’s over the course of years with Paul having kids with Channi, Alia being born, and Thufir being mentally broken by serving and scheming against the Harkonen.

Dunce’s movie is like what? A couple of months? You don’t even have Channi be Kynes daughter in either movie, but you at least have Kyne’s not a true local Lynch’s movie.
 
6. How do the Fremen go to attack the other houses in space, when they have no ships and even if they stole the Emperor's ships, they wouldn't know how to use them?
One of the things that kind of doesnt make any sense. Logically the houses have zero reason not to nuke Paul, spice be damned at that point.

This makes even less sense seeing as how the movie changes the ending to put the Fremen starting their crusade for somewhat justifiable reasons; the houses refusing to accept Paul as Emperor after a lawful trial by combat. Also assuming they continue on with Messiah, I dont see how they write it so Paul and Chani end up back together for her to have a few kids(unless shes supposed to be already pregnant?) without it being very very retarded writing.

Its all fucking dumb and I wouldnt be surprised if we see in a year or two he was banging her so playing her up like that hack Watatti did with Tessa Thompson.
 
This makes even less sense seeing as how the movie changes the ending to put the Fremen starting their crusade for somewhat justifiable reasons; the houses refusing to accept Paul as Emperor after a lawful trial by combat. Also assuming they continue on with Messiah, I dont see how they write it so Paul and Chani end up back together for her to have a few kids(unless shes supposed to be already pregnant?) without it being very very retarded writing.

Its all fucking dumb and I wouldnt be surprised if we see in a year or two he was banging her so playing her up like that hack Watatti did with Tessa Thompson.
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One of the things that kind of doesnt make any sense. Logically the houses have zero reason not to nuke Paul, spice be damned at that point.


This makes even less sense seeing as how the movie changes the ending to put the Fremen starting their crusade for somewhat justifiable reasons; the houses refusing to accept Paul as Emperor after a lawful trial by combat. Also assuming they continue on with Messiah, I dont see how they write it so Paul and Chani end up back together for her to have a few kids(unless shes supposed to be already pregnant?) without it being very very retarded writing.

Its all fucking dumb and I wouldnt be surprised if we see in a year or two he was banging her so playing her up like that hack Watatti did with Tessa Thompson.
At least Tessa Thompson is pretty. Not exactly leading lady charismatic, but has a decent body. Zendaya has no sexual features.

Anyways, I find it more likely that Chani will have a giant "I told you so" party when Paul's Fremen die in the crusade. Thus, she will be the real Chosen One, not Paul. Is it Current Year retardation? Yes. Is Hollywood inclined to do so? Yes.
 
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Personal nitpick but i was litle bit disapointed when they showed the emperor and his palace, considering what they did with the harkonen and the imperial herald scene in the first movie ( I was expecting a futurist rendition of european royality clothing ) i was expecting something big, impressive, majestic but no? He wears some simple clothes and live in a palace that looks like a modern day high midle class home. In the end they do show they wearing some white/silver clothing, i liked it a bit. I liked the movie overhaul but i hated how Zandaya acts like a modern day american girl that was trowed in arakis.
 
Saw it last night. Kept saying “kumMON!” every time Walken was on the screen...what a dumb casting decision, someone like Kenneth Cranham should’ve played Shaddam IV. Movie was loooong yet cut incredibly important things like the Spacing Guild & Thufir Hawat to cram in more Cabbage Patch Chani scenes. One of the reasons I did not like that overrated B&W Harkonnen sequence. The Spacing Guild should’ve been at that imperial Kaitain scene putting pressure on the emperor & Thufir should’ve been in the Geidi Prime sequence and at the end.

I don’t mind Villeneuve making Chani a bigger character & the sigma-female Fremen, but fuckin aye, how many scenes of Chani scowling at Paul’s bullshit did I need? Thufir was crucial, his end symbolizes the last vestige of noble Paul Atreides dying. His sacrifice out of love for House Atreides would’ve given this emotionally flat movie more humanity & made Paul’s fall into meccaleccajihad more tragic. Imagine something like this scene from the extended 1984 Dune in the more grimdark Villeneuve Dune. Also would’ve made Paul’s duel to the death with Feyd more charged.

Still, an 8/10 movie, well worth seeing in Imax. Denis Villeneuve should stop being fagatronic though & include the deleted scenes in the BluRay. That’s the sting here, THEY FILMED SCENES WITH THUFIR.
 
One of the things that kind of doesnt make any sense. Logically the houses have zero reason not to nuke Paul, spice be damned at that point.
tbf, it goes against all conventions of the Landraad to use family atomics against a human being. Paul got away with using atomics because he was using them against a natural wall.
I dont see how they write it so Paul and Chani end up back together for her to have a few kids(unless shes supposed to be already pregnant?) without it being very very retarded writing.
I'm calling it. Irulan doesn't die a virgin with rage, which misses the whole point of her dichotomy with Chani.
That’s the sting here, THEY FILMED SCENES WITH THUFIR.
No Thufir. No Count Fenring. Why the fuck should I pay for this shit?
 
tbf, it goes against all conventions of the Landraad to use family atomics against a human being. Paul got away with using atomics because he was using them against a natural wall.

I'm calling it. Irulan doesn't die a virgin with rage, which misses the whole point of her dichotomy with Chani.

No Thufir. No Count Fenring. Why the fuck should I pay for this shit?
I wasn't impressed with Thufir in Part 1 either. He was just sweaty fat guy in that movie and you never get the sense he's a mutant or even that great as a courtier.
 
tbf, it goes against all conventions of the Landraad to use family atomics against a human being. Paul got away with using atomics because he was using them against a natural wall.
Im talking about the way the movie ended. They know death is coming their way, they just saw the Emperor and his elite super troopers get annihilated. No reason to not use nukes to stop the Fremen/Paul at that point.
 
Im talking about the way the movie ended. They know death is coming their way, they just saw the Emperor and his elite super troopers get annihilated. No reason to not use nukes to stop the Fremen/Paul at that point.

Maybe using more atomics on Arrakis risked contaminating the spice deposits, is what I figure there. Paul’s fedayeen have the best high ground in the known universe...the guild and landsraad are all junkies who’ll literally die without their fix.
 
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