I'm well aware of what happened to SEGA during the 16-32bit transition because I was there, and the problem is that they nuked the 32X way too early much like Nintendo did with the Virtualboy, but while SEGA fans left Nintendo ones went and bought a N64. To their credit Nintendo did keep the Snes alive until like 1998 while SEGA preemptively killed the Genesis instead of letting the 32X carry it over for 2-3 more years. I remember an interview that said the LockOn cart of S&K was originally meant to have the SVP chip and the idea was to compete with the superFX games with the advantage that you only need to buy the chip once so games would be cheaper. It was genius because the SVP was way more powerful than the FX and we could probably have had DOOM on the Genesis. Also I think they said the Virtua Fighter version for the 32X was originally for the SVP. Kallinske was right in not wanting to abandon the Genesis, he knew how hard it had been to get that market from Nintendo and the Nes, but the japs at SoJ didnt care because nobody bought the MD over there so they wanted to move to the Saturn fast.
But by the time the Dreamcast came around SEGA as a brand was so tarnished they didnt even call it the Sega Dreamcast in the EU and JP market like they did with the Sega Saturn and Sega Genesis. The SEGA name wasnt part of the Dreamcast logo but put elsewhere because people didnt like SEGA anymore. And when the Dreamcast launched SEGA had no other consoles still active, even the GameGear had been killed by 97 and then sold to majesco, so I dont know where you get there was cannibalization, that happened between the 32X and the Saturn
I was still gaming on a Genesis as late as 1996, 1997 and 1998, you could easily find Genesis games on the shelves of video stores as late as 1998 too, Sega definitely should have supported it officially for longer.
In fact the smartest thing to do would have been to skip the Saturn entirely, let Sony and Nintendo work out the kinks on 3D early on, keep Sega 2D, then come on strong with the Dreamcast.
I put the peak at late 2004, nothing will ever surpass the avalanche of quality that was that season, the amount of top-tier games released at the same time
Fall/winter of 2004 was indeed pretty crazy, especially if you include RE4 as it was basically part of that season, only not being so through pure technicality (it came out like what, 5 days into 2005? It's a late 2004 game for all intents and purposes)
My personal favorite fall seasons are 2001 and 2007 though, 2001 is special to me because it's what made me the gamer I am today, it was the first time I played a bunch of cutting edge new releases as soon as they came out instead of lagging behind and fall of 2007 is special because it was the end of an era, gaming was never quite as exciting again since then.
I remember the X360 launch being kind of a letdown in terms of titles, the only nextgen-ish game people were talking about was Condemned and it has aged horribly
It wasn't as good as the first Xbox's launch lineup but it wasn't shabby, saying Geometry Wars was the best thing was retarded bullshit, I can't vouch for how Condemned holds up today as it's been a while since I played it, but at the time it was mind blowing.
I didnt know anyone who wasnt jacking off to Bioshock at the time, and for me it wasnt that great
They were a minority but there were still plenty of people calling it overrated, Yahtzee being one example, it was always "yeah, this is not as good as System Shock 2"
It was one of the first times we saw a schism like that I feel, where a game got rave reviews but a sizable minority didn't think it was that great and that's been gaming ever since, there's always been a contingent of "games are not as good as they used to be" and as time goes on I feel myself joining it too.
But the deal with Bioshock is simple, yes the gameplay was simplified from SS2, but the story and aesthetics were 100 times better, it just depends on what you're looking for from a game, do you want a compelling story (of which Bioshock is quite literally one of the best in gaming history) or are you focused entirely on the gameplay?
I do wish Bioshock had kept deeper gameplay ala SS2, that combined with the story and probably everyone would have been heralding it as the greatest game of all time.
But either way, I think everyone can agree it's better than Infinite, which didn't just simplify the immersive sim elements, it stripped them out completely in favor of just being a shooter and the story was clunky and didn't make a ton of sense, so much damn potential though, what a crazy cool setting they came up with.
F3 was great, the people I knew who were ranting against it were purists angry that it wasnt an isometric turn-based game but an FPS. It might have been "oblivion with guns" but it was a good game nonetheless and despite the bugs and having to play in on a toaster back then those were some good times, tho of course NV is an order of magnitude better.
It was good, but having since played the original 2 I can understand why fans were upset, the tone of 3 is radically different than the first 2 games, New Vegas brought back the tone of the first 2 games combined with the gameplay of 3, it was the best of both worlds, it's a shame we couldn't get just one more game in the classic tone and it's a shame at this rate we probably never will.
It's best to think of Bethesda's Fallouts as an entirely separate continuity than 1, 2 and NV.
Its funny how nobody considered things could be so much worse than the FX
FX? Not sure what you mean.
No, its the fear of not following the trance, the etiquette, the social rituals of SJW wokeshit. SJWs are the most egotistical mean fuckers you can find, and they hold a grudge forever. You think they actually care about minorities? about being nice? its all performance, they never actually help any disadvantage people, its all virtue-signaling for internet points
That's what I was trying to say, these people are evil sociopaths, any talk of helping other people is a pure front.
Harvey Weinstein is a perfect example of this, all his donating to the Democratic party, all his movies with progressive social messages and it was all just a front so he could sexually assault women, he's leftists personified.
Shit, I'm a minority in a country that's about to explode, you think any SJWs have offered to help me? none, zero
Is it Argentina? Whole world's probably getting ready to explode soon I fear due to the economic impact of Covid I fear, but I digress.
Well that was the fascism angle I was talking about, and the comics and books painted the COG as shit government since the very first game, but Marcus and the rest of the team were the good guys while today they would probably be framed as muh toxic masculinity and shit.
As for the female gears it kind of makes sense since they are on their last legs in 3, but it makes zero sense in the new trilogy
Oh yeah, the whole thing was always left leaning from the start, it was Iraq war satire, there's clear hints at that in the first two games, but 3 really took the lid off and made it obvious what it was about.
In fact a lot of games around that time had Iraq war/George W Bush satire, our current climate in gaming didn't start from nowhere, I'll never forget this E3 interview on X-Play I saw once with one of the developers of the game Mercenaries is describing the game and out of nowhere says "unlike Iraq, North Korea actually has WMDs"
The 2000s had a lot of proto-Woke than we really like to think, one example being the climate surrounding Hurricane Katrina giving us an early taste of the Black Lives Matter era, but as it relates to video games, games used to have social commentary about society as a whole, today the brunt of it is aimed at gamers directly, ala TLOU2, there's a hostility aimed directly at gamers these days by publishers and developers themselves that there didn't used to be, even when a game was political, that's the difference when SJWs disingenuously say "What's the big deal? There's always been politics in games!"
I remember the shitstorm about the game having this tiny rape-ish scene according to feminists and I was like "the fuck? have you ever seen a movie about rape?". Of course these were the same cunts wearing "I was raped" tshirts when in reality what happened is they got drunk or high and fucked a rando then regretted is
Thats not being raped, thats being a whore with a substance problem
That's the irony is Tomb Raider 2013 still stepped in shit with feminists for daring to put Lara in actual danger and peril, I remember people also raising a stink about the violent death scenes that would occur when you fail a QTE in general, because oh noes! Not showing a female character in peril! You'd think the fact that she blows the potential rapists head off before he has a chance to even do anything would have made them happy but hell no.
That lead to this modern climate of female characters never being in any serious danger, never having to work to succeed, ala Rey in Star Wars.
Everything has been made so bland and boring thanks to Woke now, no edge, no sex, I remember games like Bloodrayne, which would make an SJW's mind explode today, I also wonder how pissed a game like Clock Tower, Clock Tower 3 and Haunting Ground would make feminists today.
But back in the days of 2011-2013 they were still figuring things out, in the case of the Tomb Raider reboot, they toned down Lara as a sex object (although she was still beautiful) but put her in real danger and peril, but can't have that anymore, they also ugged up Lara more, I liked Tomb Raider 2013, same as I liked The Last of Us, if things could have stayed at 2013 levels I would be fine with it but then Goober Grape happened and SJWs doubled and tripled down on everything.
My guess is that it will only get worse
I already see sluts on OF calling themselves "your girlfriend" and offering the "girlfriend" experience which I think is like sending you texts or something like that? Probably only a matter of time until prostitution is legalized and then the only relationships between men and women will be monetary based.
Society is sliding straight into the pit of absolute degeneracy, I'm not trying to get on too big of a high horse, I like a little degeneracy myself, but we're taking things too far.
Really? why? the fireflies being SJWs turned amoral terrorists?
That especially, but also the overall idea of society heading into some bad days, we're already living in a dystopia.
If you mean that part with the Vox the devs backpedaled a lot and declared the black girl totally dindu nothing in the DLCs
I'm aware and it's too bad because in some ways the DLC patched up Infinite's story and was also really good in general, but that was a total copout, but looking from the vantage point of the original game it's message of the resistance becoming just as evil as what it's rebelling is against is as spookily relevant as it gets, especially as it was racially motivated, hard not too look at an America stand in being destroyed by essentially a race war (or at the very least a communist revolution fueled by racial tension) and wonder if our future reality is going to be something like that.
The original Bioshock is also incredibly prescient, both Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite taken together are eerily prescient games, save for the cop out with Daisy, really makes you wonder if Ken Levine was onto something.
Except they hamfisted that in with the DLC for the first game, SJWs dont understand subtlety at all
Didnt stop coomers from making tons of SFM porn of Ellie getting fucked by dudes
Eh, it didn't bother me that Ellie was gay, I'm not going to go as far to say that you should never have a gay player character in a game, but TLOU2 was some hateful bullshit, I got a sick feeling in my gut watching Joel's death scene on Youtube, that's what Druckmann and people like him would like to do to a guy like me.
What if its a really good game?
That's even worse, imagine playing a game you really love and then one day it becomes impossible to play.
That's already happened with games like The Tomorrow Children and Drawn to Death, two games I was curious to try, but I'm kind of glad I didn't because I could never play those again.
Whats the SJW situation at the company? asking because they already employed a pedo chick who only got the boot after being outted as a literal prostitute. Also AC is a cesspool of woke shit
There's some issue with the US translation team, but Nintendo themselves are not at all Woke, they keep putting women with big butts and breasts in their games, that's as Unwoke as it gets.
Thats not True for Nintendo, most of their Dead IPs are dead because Nintendo has no idea what to do with them.
F-Zero is the posterchild of this. the last game sold fine. 1.5 million was pretty good for a gamecube game.
they just have no idea what to do with it, there is still a market for games like that and they could even find a good partner for it, but they dont bother.
Nintendo is run by autists, their acting doesnt make sense half the time
I think I said this earlier in this same thread, but the Japanese can be weirdly stubborn and obstinate when they get an idea in their heads beyond all logic and reason, it's the only thing that bothers me about them.
In Nintendo's case their obsession is innovation, if they can't "innovate" with a new entry, if all they can really do with is "more of the same but with better graphics" then they ain't going to fucking do jack shit with the ip no matter how much the fans want it and would be fine with more of the same.
In F-Zero's case it's because fundamentally all they could really do with it is just make it have better graphics, so nothing gets done with it, they have to reinvent the wheel every time, it's very frustrating, I sincerely hope they aren't crazy enough to only utilize Odyssey's possession mechanic only once, but at the same time using that mechanic only once and not making another mainline Mario until they come up with some other new gimmick is exactly how the company operates, even though there's still so much potential with Odyssey's mechanic.
What I would really like to see brought back is Advance Wars, it'd be a perfect fit for the Switch, but again, because all they could really do is just make it look better, with no obvious way to "innovate" the gameplay it stays dormant.
At least though when Nintendo does make a game it's very high quality, contrast that with Konami on the other hand who got the idea in their head "fuck video games, we're a pachinko company now" and despite all the potential all their ips have they all sit and rot because fuck you basically, at least Nintendo is still making games period.
