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Part of the problem is food is used as a drug in the US. People are eating to gratify enjoyment and stress relief needs in their otherwise miserable lives. There is an underlying mental health and just generally "past the breaking point" factor that leads to the potential for riots. It's not fear of starvation, it's fear of boredom and limited gratification. It's complicated to fix this because suffering is just a part of life. It's unrealistic to expect the government can make you happy and fulfilled. It can't. People need to seek out other people in voluntary communities to give them psychological and social support networks. They should have families to do it too. The government can give you food, but it can never give you soul food.
 
werbwub said:
In my area, you can get 5lbs of flour + 5lbs rice, 1lb of butter, 3 gallons of milk, 2lbs of ground beef, canned tomates, spices, and 60 eggs for like $60.
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All that stuff is SNAP-eligible already.

What everyone forgets is the vast majority of these people are utterly miserable and there is no chance of improvement. I don't think anyone here would be willing to trade places with someone on SNAP or other welfare. They're going to use their benefits on stuff like junk food, shrimp and steaks because it gives them some pleasure and enjoyment for once in their shitty lives. Orwell touched on this in Wigan Pier but in that case was wage labor.

The only way to stop welfare from being misused is to eliminate the circumstances that cause it to exist in the first place.
 
At least I can take solace in the knowledge that my favorite used bookstores will be safe from rioting groid hordes because niggers can't readez theys books.
 
I’m certain that this has been sort of brought up already, but I figure it’d be important to share the numbers I’ve come up with. From my research it would seem that a typical grocer derives about 25% of sales from snap, and the consumer staples sector makes up about 16% of the U.S. economy. What this means just lost sales from snap could amount to about 4% of TOTAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE U.S. that is not happening every day that snap benefits remain undistributed. I’m not saying “the end is nigh” but I am expecting potentially big buying opportunities, most of my portfolio is currently cash.
 
elite_club said:
From my research it would seem that a typical grocer derives about 25% of sales from snap, and the consumer staples sector makes up about 16% of the U.S. economy.
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Sounds reasonable. Every 10% increase in EBT in the last decade and a half has resulted in about a 1% increase in the price of groceries, from increased demand. From a normal consumer's perspective, EBT being on hold is nothing but a positive thing. And taking the long economic view, we have to remember that subsidized consumption is not a productive economic activity, even though it looks like more dollars are moving on the shekel sheet.
 
ruckingfetard said:
I used to work at a convenience store like 7-11, and EBT would only work on dry/cold food items, not any of our hot sandwiches and pizzas and all that. That did not stop obese niggers from coming in, trying to use EBT on pizza and 89cent cigars, and blowing a fuse because their cards wouldn't work. The card will only automatically pay for accepted items, the rest will still need to be paid for by their own money. When niggers get mad because their EBT cards wouldn't work on certain items, I had the suspicion those weren't even their cards or they did some sort of scamming to obtain them. Because most people are aware of what they can and can't buy.
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Did they have the pin written on the back of the card? In my experience that's the dead giveaway that someone sold that card to someone else.
 
werbwub said:
In my area, you can get 5lbs of flour + 5lbs rice, 1lb of butter, 3 gallons of milk, 2lbs of ground beef, canned tomates, spices, and 60 eggs for like $60
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This is a significantly better diet than what that retard posted earlier in the thread about how through carbs, carbs and carbs you could easily get enough calories to make it through the week.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
This is a significantly better diet than what that retard posted earlier in the thread about how through carbs, carbs and carbs you could easily get enough calories to make it through the week.
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The thing is even a bad diet based on buying in bulk (even crap like those giant bags of breakfast cereal) is going to keep you alive.

But even if you're too destitute for that, nobody ever died from plain rice and beans. Even that can be turned into a delicious meal with a few cents worth of spices and veggies from the ugly rack.

You could even survive indefinitely on nothing but potatoes. It's not a great diet, and it isn't a great source of any particular nutrients, but it's at least a mediocre source for everything you need to live (other than B12 and you keep months of reserves of that in your body).
 
iLLuvitard said:
You can work 40hrs at a call center or factory where I'm at and still NEED the SNAP to survive with a lot of the work available. The prevailing wage around some areas is fucked in the US, and we'll likely see it get worse given the recent track we've went down.
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There's a term you should be familiar with called "chickenization". A lot of employment across America had been chickenizing since 2020. Some are doing it because they want the cheapest work while those with money hand-over-fist are looking to fire to recoup the cost of implementing and operating an AI, which will constantly balloon and lose investors money, like any pyramid or MLM scheme.

iLLuvitard said:
God help these places if they do get a good portion of their labor pools replaced by toaster droids. ( although robo-hate crime seems right and just, and we'd get that )
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There's a term that Corey Doctorow (you know, the enshittification guy) came up with to refer to those people in his blog. "Reverse-Centaurs" are when the human acts as a vessel for decrees of a computer (see: most jobs at Amazon), being the opposite of "Centaur" where the robot aids the human in tasks instead.
 
Agamemnon Busmalis said:
junk food, shrimp and steaks
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shrimp is cheap and high protein. it's actually a pretty good use of your foodbux, because it'll fill you up pretty well if you mix it with other meal prep stuff, and provides a lot of good nutrients. it's also not super expensive either.

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the little snap eligible tag really is the icing on this particular cake. get that rice with it, and just occasionally some seasonings and spices, and you've got high protein seafood rice.

it's about the same price as ground beef, which is over 5 dollars a pound at walmart, and that's for chuck.
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it is a little bit expensive to fucking eat these days, especially if you live in a place where your only options are walmart and dollar general. it's not that i don't sympathize, it's that i know what the people on snap are actually buying, and it isn't shelf-stables and essentials, it's stupid overpriced bullshit.
 
Fort Bragg, located in Fayetteville, NC is home of the Airborne and Special Forces and the largest US Military base. The most elite US Army soldiers and their families live there.
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From the Fayetteville observer, Food pantries are getting emptied and non-profits are trying to help to avoid Army SOF members and their families getting no food (which in no way could go wrong.)

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Food pantry almost raided clean in Fayetteville, and the lines have been getting longer.
 
ToEnsureVerification said:
Fort Bragg, located in Fayetteville, NC is home of the Airborne and Special Forces and the largest US Military base. The most elite US Army soldiers and their families live there.
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From the Fayetteville observer, Food pantries are getting emptied and non-profits are trying to help to avoid Army SOF members and their families getting no food (which in no way could go wrong.)

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Food pantry almost raided clean in Fayetteville, and the lines have been getting longer.
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Its not necessarily the soldiers. Bases like that have massive civilian work forces. I doubt the DFAC is going to close either.
 
ToEnsureVerification said:
From the Fayetteville observer, Food pantries are getting emptied and non-profits are trying to help to avoid Army SOF members and their families getting no food (which in no way could go wrong.)
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How much are these guys paid? Looks like the orange man will be overthrown!
mindlessobserver said:
Its not necessarily the soldiers. Bases like that have massive civilian work forces. I doubt the DFAC is going to close either.
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Civilians as in the general public? Or soldiers that are non-combatant?
 
Plantation Barbie said:
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Tell me you don't know how to cook without telling me you don't know how to cook. You have the ingredients for multiple struggle recipes. Lentil soup, roasted potatoes and carrots, tripe soup, menudo. If you can use Google to bitch then you can use it to look up simple recipes.
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This legitimately pisses me off, and this kind of thing is why I am radically against welfare (at least in the manner we do it).
You get free, wholesome, healthy, delicious ingredients and you sperg out because you can’t boil fucking water. You don’t deserve any of this, you are a literal parasite.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Its not necessarily the soldiers. Bases like that have massive civilian work forces
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babyDunk said:
Civilians as in the general public? Or soldiers that are non-combatant?
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babyDunk said:
How much are these guys paid? Looks like the orange man will be overthrown!
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The most affected will be the families, contractors and the soldiers going through administrative stuff that takes time to process and don't receive payment. For many military families, money is tight right now, and there's less combat pay than there was. While I'm pretty sure no one will starve (thanks to the non-profits and outside help, I hope), I wouldn't be happy about the situation if I was stationed in Bragg.
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
This legitimately pisses me off, and this kind of thing is why I am radically against welfare (at least in the manner we do it).
You get free, wholesome, healthy, delicious ingredients and you sperg out because you can’t boil fucking water. You don’t deserve any of this, you are a literal parasite.
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the part that pisses me off is the misinformation about the milk. milk fats are GOOD FOR YOU. you WANT THEM. the fact that so many retarded americans have cut whole milk out of their diet is one of the major reasons that people are so against milk imo.
 
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