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Are payments actually stopped? Are those contingency funds actually going out? The news is so bad at doing anything but fearmongering I have no idea what the fuck is happening
>Are payments actually stopped?
Apparently no.

>Are those contingency funds actually going out?
The judge ordered as much.

This was two days ago.

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Oct. 31, 2025, 2:31 PM EDT / Updated Oct. 31, 2025, 7:35 PM EDT
By Gary Grumbach, Alexandra Marquez and Minyvonne Burke
A Rhode Island federal judge on Friday ordered the U.S. Department of Agriculture to distribute money owed to recipients of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program "as soon as possible," just one day before funding for SNAP was set to lapse.

U.S District Judge John McConnell's ruling from the bench came shortly after another federal judge in a separate case said that the Trump administration's plan not to pay out SNAP benefits beginning on Nov. 1 due to the ongoing federal government shutdown was "unlawful" but stopped short of ordering the Trump administration to disburse funds.


Ruling in favor of a group of cities and community organizations that sued over the cuts, McConnell said that the USDA must fund SNAP using money in a contingency fund. But, he added that if the department finds that the money in the contingency fund is insufficient, then the agency must use other funding sources to make those payments.

“There is no doubt that the six billion dollars in contingency funds are appropriated funds that are without a doubt necessary to carry out the program’s operation,” McConnell said in his oral ruling. “The shutdown of the government through funding doesn’t do away with SNAP. It just does away with the funding of it. There could be no greater necessity than the prohibition across the board of funds for the program’s operations.”

McConnell added, “there is no doubt, and it is beyond argument, that irreparable harm will begin to occur if it hasn’t already occurred in the terror it has caused some people about the availability of funding for food for their family."

McConnell addressed the Trump administration's argument that contingency funds might be needed for other reasons in the near future, like in the aftermath of a hypothetical hurricane.

"It’s clear that when compared to the millions of people that will go without funds for food versus the agency’s desire not to use contingency funds in case there’s a hurricane need, the balances of those equities clearly goes on the side of ensuring that people are fed,” the judge said.

McConnell asked the administration for an update on the SNAP funding by Monday at 12 p.m. ET.

NBC News reached out to the White House, the U.S. Office of Management and Budget and USDA for comment.

President Donald Trump said on social media Friday that "government lawyers do not think we have the legal authority to pay SNAP with certain monies we have available, and now two Courts have issued conflicting opinions on what we can and cannot do."


"I have instructed our lawyers to ask the Court to clarify how we can legally fund SNAP as soon as possible," Trump said.

National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett criticized the ruling in a Friday afternoon interview with Meet the Press Now.

"I think that the liberal judges weren't correct on this," Hassett said.

"I think that our legal analysis is that we have to use the emergency money for emergencies," he said. "But if you think about it, we're in something that a Democrat judge is willing to say is an emergency because the Democrats won't open the government."

Democracy Forward, a progressive legal advocacy group that represented the plaintiffs, applauded the ruling.

"Today’s decision affirms what both the law and basic decency require: the Trump-Vance administration must use its power to support people in America, not to harm them," Democracy Forward President and CEO Skye Perryman said in a statement, “The court’s ruling protects millions of families, seniors, and veterans from being used as leverage in a political fight and upholds the principle that no one in America should go hungry."

Perryman's group represented a collection of plaintiffs, including local municipalities, charitable and faith-based nonprofit organizations and business and union groups in the Rhode Island suit.

In the statement, Perryman added that their group is "honored to represent a coalition that refused to accept hunger as a cruel tactic of political pressure—and we will continue fighting to ensure that our institutions serve people with integrity, compassion, and accountability.”

In a separate ruling, a federal judge in Boston said Friday she wants further briefings before deciding if the Agriculture Department has to use emergency funds to continue SNAP benefits for millions of Americans after Democratic leaders sued the agency.

Plaintiffs have standing to bring this action and are likely to succeed on their claim that Defendants’ suspension of SNAP benefits is unlawful," Judge Indira Talwani wrote in her finding.

“Where that suspension of benefits rested on an erroneous construction of the relevant statutory provisions, the court will allow Defendants to consider whether they will authorize at least reduced SNAP benefits for November, and report back to the court no later than Monday, November 3, 2025,” she wrote.

Talwani, of the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts, said Thursday the government can’t simply suspend benefits because it can’t afford to cover the program.

Talwani said she wants to hear back from the administration no later than Monday, November 3, 2025.

On Tuesday, the attorneys general of 22 states and the District of Columbia, as well as the governors of Kansas, Kentucky and Pennsylvania, sued the U.S. Department of Agriculture, arguing that it is legally required to continue providing SNAP benefits during the government shutdown, as long as the USDA has the funding. They asked the judge to compel the agency to use contingency funds appropriated by Congress.

The lawsuit sought a temporary restraining order that would require the agency to deliver SNAP benefits through November in their states.

The USDA had said in a message posted on its website that benefits won’t be issued on EBT cards as expected on Nov. 1. Up to 42 million Americans rely on the program.

Earlier Thursday, before the rulings in Rhode Island and Massachusetts were handed down, Trump blamed the lapse in funding for SNAP on Senate Democrats, saying they could vote to end the ongoing federal government shutdown if they wanted to fund SNAP.

“All the Democrats have to do is say, ‘Let’s go.’ I mean, you know, they don’t have to do anything. They have to -- all they have to do is say, ‘the government is open,’” the president told reporters aboard Air Force One en route to Florida
 
>A footnote in the order acknowledges Trump’s involvement, noting the court’s recognition of his efforts to facilitate timely funding.
>"The court greatly appreciates the president’s quick and definitive response to this court’s order and his desire to provide the necessary SNAP funding," U.S. District Court Judge John J. McConnell Jr. wrote in a court order on Saturday.


Seems like this Happening is much ado about nothing for now.
 
I wasn’t aware there were any cheap grocery stores in the US…
Obviously you’ve got a difference between the likes of Whole Foods and Kroger, but neither I would call “cheap” in any case.
Do you mean something like Lidl, or Chinese supermarkets or what?

Surplus stores.

They get the stuff with a slight dent in the box or close to its expiration date. Or excess stock. Or whatever the logic is because half the stuff in these places has nothing wrong with it.

Then they sell it for cheaper.
 
It's literally like the time when fundies ran the GOP. Until they figured out everyone fucking HATED the fundies. Also you can charge your iPhone to 100% immediately by just putting it in the microwave for a minute.
Yes that time the fundies ran the GOP and couldn't get anything relevant given to them.

Remember it was Trump that got Roe vs Wade overturned.
 
>A footnote in the order acknowledges Trump’s involvement, noting the court’s recognition of his efforts to facilitate timely funding.
>"The court greatly appreciates the president’s quick and definitive response to this court’s order and his desire to provide the necessary SNAP funding," U.S. District Court Judge John J. McConnell Jr. wrote in a court order on Saturday.


Seems like this Happening is much ado about nothing for now.
Cowards
 
>A footnote in the order acknowledges Trump’s involvement, noting the court’s recognition of his efforts to facilitate timely funding.
>"The court greatly appreciates the president’s quick and definitive response to this court’s order and his desire to provide the necessary SNAP funding," U.S. District Court Judge John J. McConnell Jr. wrote in a court order on Saturday.


Seems like this Happening is much ado about nothing for now.
You know if Trump is trying to get EBT funded...perhaps the Judge should look at the people who are impeding him
Maybe tell them to get off their asses instead of voting 12 times to not do anything so they can use The Poors as a bludgeon to get the GOP to cuck out..
 
Maybe tell them to get off their asses instead of voting 12 times to not do anything so they can use The Poors as a bludgeon to get the GOP to cuck out..
13 times actually, so far. :story:

The cynical side of me thinks that, the only reason Trump is acting with gusto, is to make the Democrats look bad for the midterms (next year), and give the GOP more to run on against Democrats.
 
The prices would fall below profitability, which is why you've seen seeing soyfarmers whining for the last few months that China won't buy their soy. The central government is forced to barter on their behalf to find markets for their products.

The market solution would be to tell the farmers to get fucked, change their business model to something profitable, or go out business. However, farmers are absolute welfare clowns in a hilariously oversaturated industry that's effectively managed to efficiently eliminate profit margins. Without the subsidies, the market could face shortages and price fluctuations that annoy consumers. People like living in a world where the corn-fed beef is always $4/lb and doesn't spike to $6/lb when a bad corn harvest shows up and farmers have to switch to some more expensive feed. It's a conscious tradeoff we make as a nation. We baby these unprofitable businesses because the alternative would be allowing the market to discover the real going rate for any arbitrary commodity.
Another thing that is completely pathetic about American farming that I've learned, is that the government keeps making them stay up to date with ridiculous standards and new farming equipment which is only designed to keep them in massive debt or on the government tit.
Basically they either grow what the government tells them to, or they are literally one bad harvest away from losing everything.
And the government is still using "Muh great depression dust bowl" reasoning for this over subsidization of American farming. I always thought American farming was just growing or raising whatever you want, harvest or slaughter it and then sell it, which is pure fantasy. It turns out being a farmer is massively regulated and restricted and most farmers barely scrape by being in debt middle class people.
That's a scary thought given that if our agriculture ever went down, we would be thrown into utter chaos.
 
The cynical side of me thinks that, the only reason Trump is acting with gusto, is to make the Democrats look bad for the midterms (next year), and give the GOP more to run on against Democrats.
Nah he is acting like gusto because he knows he is in the right and that the Democrats are being a bunch of petulant crybabies who are having a hissy fit over the fact they lost in 2024 and are actively trying to make a bunch of sob stories about how "Little Deshawn ain't getting his food and is hungry"
 
Are payments actually stopped? Are those contingency funds actually going out? The news is so bad at doing anything but fearmongering I have no idea what the fuck is happening
I think it's on a state by state basis. I called the 800 number for Missouri and got a message that due to the government shutdown November's payments weren't happening. I couldn't check to see if people were still getting stamps because to go any further than that message I had to input an EBT card number, and I didn't have one.
 
>Are payments actually stopped?
Apparently no.

>Are those contingency funds actually going out?
The judge ordered as much.

This was two days ago.
So if Trump has to release these emergency funds to SNAP, are the democrats just going to keep the government shut down so they can
•Demand USDA release more emergency funding in December
•Attempt it again January, but USDA runs out of money that can't be replaced because the government is shut down
•Blame Trump for everything despite this being a 99.9999999% Congress issue?
 
⁹.mmn
So if Trump has to release these emergency funds to SNAP, are the democrats just going to keep the government shut down so they can
•Demand USDA release more emergency funding in December
•Attempt it again January, but USDA runs out of money that can't be replaced because the government is shut down
•Blame Trump for everything despite this being a 99.9999999% Congress issue?
iirc the emergency funs were only at 6b while monthly snap is at 8b.
the emergency funds won't last and wont feed everyone.
 
I didn't see any wiggers or welfare abusers at my local Walmart a few days back. For all of them panicking, they sure weren't stocking up. Then again these retards aren't known to plan ahead, obviously. They can't save a dollar to save their life and don't even bother trying to clothe their kids for the winter.

Poor people around here are fucking stupid.
 
Everyone's saying "Nothing ever happens" and "Why is nothing happening" need to realize that mom just started dinner. Yesterday is when the oven turned on, it hasn't even preheated yet.

what kind of oven did you grow up with that took overnight to preheat
 
I didn't see any wiggers or welfare abusers at my local Walmart a few days back. For all of them panicking, they sure weren't stocking up. Then again these retards aren't known to plan ahead, obviously. They can't save a dollar to save their life and don't even bother trying to clothe their kids for the winter.

Poor people are fucking stupid.
Fixed, and before anyone bitches. There's a vast difference between poor and broke beyond not having money.
 
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